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The gm said they didn't want to do arbitration with JBD and then signed a bad player and allowed another player to file for arbitration b4 signing him. It's not moving the goalposts, it's recognizing incompetent decision making.

AFP analytics on cap wages had Timmins at 2x2.67M projected. Not sure why it was that much. Pretty far off of what he got.

How does Victor Oloffson sound? 😬 There’s not much available out there…

He would have been a UFA after one year. This 2 year contract does buy into one year or that. But also, signing before the hearing avoids the massive headache that process is. That’s a huge plus for both sides.

Quenville certainly knew about what was happening (and didn’t do anything), but he wasn’t the person accused of the act. This isn’t to say Q is a great guy; I wouldn’t want him to run the Sabres. I just don’t feel comfortable with any of these people, guilty or not. This wasn’t something completely fabricated like the Duke lacrosse players. Something happened that night, legal or not, that many of us wouldn’t take part in. Pass.

What is the point in signing before arbitration unless you think the results would yield a potentially higher AAV award? So was he somehow going to get MORE than $2.2M annually if they let it play out? Or just bad negotiating by Adams…again? If I assume he was a portion of the second round pick collateral to Pittsburgh (Clifton cap dump being the other), and if JBD would have gone to arbitration and that process yielded say $1.5m- $1.8m, are the Sabres better off with Timmons at $2.2m or with JBD, the draft capital (whatever it may be) plus the additional cap space (not that it would be used)?

That’s what we call moving the goalposts.

Yeah, hopefully you're going after more of the Sam Adams Cherry Wheat than today's fruit bombs. Cherry Wheat is probably the beer that fully opened the path to non-lager drinking. I was drinking some craft before then but once out of college things changed. Playing hockey late nights and then going to Doc and Den's in Tonawanda, they always had Cherry Wheat and I got onto that and never looked back. I haven't had one of those in a long time now and I have no desire to either.

Signing Timmins while releasing JBD but keeping Bryson is still incompetent.

lol gotchu now. 🍻

So are we still outraged and using the arbitration filing as a sign of front office incompetence?

Exactly…on every point.

Ok, guess the roster is set

lol I like Bo as a player, but who was signing him for $11M? Plus give up two firsts, a second, and a third? I know you’re not a GMKA guy, but I absolutely don’t buy into the offer sheet hype as the reason why the Sabres were not aggressive with their cap space.

If Adams hadn’t done that, we would have been so screwed if Byram had received an $11 million offer-sheet.

A little high AAV but I still like it, I think he is gonna be really solid 5 million left, have to sign Levi. Still room for a Roslovic or a mid level top 6 add

Quite honestly, I’d take a similar view for Ottawa too. Things are different when a player gets a full offseason and training camp with a new team.

Saved a bit more than a million bucks by moving Clifton out and inserting Timmons to the third pair. Kevyn always be saving.

Move out Quinn and they have over $8 million in space to add a legit veteran top-6 forward.

That's a bit more than this kid expected, but not completely out of line. (Was expecting more like $1.5MM.) Leaves them just a bit over $5MM with a full 23 player roster. Now go get Roslovic or make another move.

Sorry to post this so late, Brian passed away on June 11th. I figured if Hulk Hogan and Ozzy deserve a thread, Brian Wilson definitely should have one. A musical genius, in my opinion as well as in the opinion of people like Paul McCartney, Elton John, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, etc. Pet Sounds always ranks in the top 3 “Greatest Albums of All-Time”. Perhaps greatest vocal arranger in the history of rock. And a lifelong inspiration to me.

UPL has to be better. He can’t let his confidence and technique slip so easily if he wants to be a good NHL goalie. But… When Ruff got to Dallas, his goalie was Kari Lehtonen. Lehtonen’s career save % was .912. Without Ruff it was .914. With Ruff .908. One season post-Ruff .912. (Note: league wide, save %’s were higher then). When Ruff got to Jersey, his goalie was Mackenzie Blackwood. Career save % .906. Without Ruff .909. With Ruff .889. Post-Ruff .905. UPL career .898. Without Ruff .904. With Ruff .887. Maybe a coincidence. But we might need to see UPL with a different coach and/or team to know how good he is.