Kristian Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 How about scoring THREE? I know it makes everyone feel better to blame only the goalie, just like everyone feels better to blame Losman or Bledsoe when the whole team sucks. Well, the whole team, Biron included, sucked tonight (by their lofty standards ... not comparing them to the Bills.) I hear ya, but the fact remains is that he's asleep on the first one, and makes a patented "Biron Assist" on the third one, by putting the puck off the boards instead of tapping it to the guy standing right behind him in acres of space. The offense is bound to have nights off, just as well as the goalie is. Biron had the night off against Philly and Carolina, so the way I figure, it was his turn to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 We outshot them 29-23, Emery outplayed Biron. Yes he did, by quite a bit. Doesn't make it OK for the rest of them to not show up at home in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 damn :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjsbu96 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 absurd to blame that game on biron guys, come on....maybe he didn't steal it for them, but most back-up goalies do not steal games. they didn't play a complete game and they were playing not only a good team, but one that was desperate. time to get over that feeling we will win every game. i can't believe how banged up some people are about losing this game.. news flash -we are going to lose a few more before it's over.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Exactly ... we all KNOW he's the lesser goalie, yet wewant him to steal games? Not gonna happen often. I don't think I want him to steal games, but rather give his team a fighting chance when they're not banging in 5+ goals a night. He doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 You're right but I have no confedence in Biron He stopped some alot tonight the goals were very good goals except for maybe the one from the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 absurd to blame that game on biron guys, come on....maybe he didn't steal it for them, but most back-up goalies do not steal games. they didn't play a complete game and they were playing not only a good team, but one that was desperate. time to get over that feeling we will win every game. i can't believe how banged up some people are about losing this game.. news flash -we are going to lose a few more before it's over.. Stop making sense ... remember people were calling for Miller to be benched when he gave up 4 per game in wins ... I'm sure the calls for Noronen will start again ... maybe John Blue is still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyFan T Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 how many effin shots did we get off on the PP tonigth?? 4? 5?? 9 shots on 6 PPs - Not gonna do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 He stopped some alot tonight the goals were very good goals except for maybe the one from the side I agree, but the third one never happens if he doesn't make a weak clearing attempt off the boards, right to a Senator winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'll stick up for Biron. He made some big saves on break aways to keep us in it. The Neal goal was a great shot, faking the pass and putting it up high ala Chris Drury. The other two goals were great deflections, wtf could he do? Ottawa just wanted this game more it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBD Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Marty's 6-1 on the year. Can't ask much more than that from a backup. Here's hoping Ryan's back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I agree, but the third one never happens if he doesn't make a weak clearing attempt off the boards, right to a Senator winger. But marty isnt the blame for the loss, 0 -6 on PP with maybe 9 shots with 6 maybe coming on the last PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'll stick up for Biron. He made some big saves on break aways to keep us in it. The Neal goal was a great shot, faking the pass and putting it up high ala Chris Drury. The other two goals were great deflections, wtf could he do? Ottawa just wanted this game more it seems. I could be wrong, but it sure looked to me like Neil was trying to pass it and it deflected in off Biron's stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I could be wrong, but it sure looked to me like Neil was trying to pass it and it deflected in off Biron's stick. No, he faked the pass and Marty leaned ... it's a bad play by Biron. A good shot, but still a bad play by Biron. But again, that goal should not beat this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I could be wrong, but it sure looked to me like Neil was trying to pass it and it deflected in off Biron's stick. I could also be wrong, but I thought he just shot it up stairs. Ya, Neil, not Neal :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjsbu96 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 incidentally, if we didn't keep this awful back-up goalie, who do you guys think would have been playing net that past few games, and do you think he would have done better? hell, i don't even know who is the next goalie in the stable.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 But marty isnt the blame for the loss, 0 -6 on PP with maybe 9 shots with 6 maybe coming on the last PP. I certainly agree, the effort wasn't there and the PK and PP were awful. But as it stands right now, I think the offense may have earned the "right" to have a bad night once in a while. As for Biron, I'm just pointing out that he's exactly the same goalie he was when we were a losing team, and that it's bugging me. Yes, he wins more games, but it's not because he's playing better. I'll leave it at this, if he's bound to have bad nights, let it be now when it doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Done Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 The 2nd and 3rd were tip ins.....how do you stop those? Marty could/should be starting for 1/3 of the league. Our team is just getting worn down. Too many key injuries...Teppo is still playing 20+ minutes with a tweaked groin. We gave the Sens 6 consecutive full minutes in our zone in the 2nd. That reaks of being tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Yeah, but some of the people calling for Miller to sit were those with little or no credibility in that area. BTP, mrjsbu96, I agree totally - there were way too many passengers tonight, we didn't take care of the puck, and took too many stupid penalties. But none of that excuses Marty's performance - not only did he make some saves to keep the game close, but he made two misplays to give Ottawa life, so in that sense it's a wash. I don't think anyone is blowing the loss out of proportion, just stating what we saw as the major problems - and one was that the goaltending was, at best, average, while the ST weren't good at all. Close the book on tonight, hope Ryan is back for the weekend, and let's move on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 The 2nd and 3rd were tip ins.....how do you stop those? Marty could/should be starting for 1/3 of the league. Our team is just getting worn down. Too many key injuries...Teppo is still playing 20+ minutes with a tweaked groin. We gave the Sens 6 consecutive full minutes in our zone in the 2nd. That reaks of being tired. You don't stop the second or third, but the third doesn't happen if he knew how to handle the puck. The Sens put us under pressure because he tries to clear it off the boards, when all he had to do was tap it to a wide open d-man 8 feet behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 The 2nd and 3rd were tip ins.....how do you stop those? Marty could/should be starting for 1/3 of the league. Our team is just getting worn down. Too many key injuries...Teppo is still playing 20+ minutes with a tweaked groin. We gave the Sens 6 consecutive full minutes in our zone in the 2nd. That reaks of being tired. Ya, its easy to forget how many players we have out, and really good players at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 At any rate, nights like this could easily end up being a blessing in disguise. I wouldn't want this team going into any playoff situation thinking they didn't have to give 100% in order to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePolishSabre Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Our 2nd Loss... i'm over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 A general goaltending question - I was watching on Center Ice, and I didn't hear either goalie banging their stick on the ice to indicate their team's PP was ending...did anyone hear that at any point? The play that caught my attention was the Ottawa's SH breakaway, when Vermette(?) came out of the box and got behind the "D." I rewound the DVR and didn't hear anything from Marty to let his guys know he was coming out of the box. From then on I tried to pay attention to whether either goalie did, and couldn't really pick it up, so I am wondering what the MSG viewers saw/heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR HOLLIDAY Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Our 2nd Loss... i'm over it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now we need to smash on Saturday............ :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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