Byram vs Power - Who are you keeping long-term?

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said:

Pretty sure the league will still value Power more than Byram 

I would certainly be on the phone to Vancouver (since Quinn is likely to walk once his contract is up) to see if there is interest 

I'd be asking how much they value Tuch as well 

 

Why do you assume that Quinn is likely to walk once his contract is up? 

[Crusader1969]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

Why do you assume that Quinn is likely to walk once his contract is up? 

He's talked about wanting to play with his brothers in NJ 

I think Canuck fans are bracing for it 

[Crusader1969]

If we are talking about trades. 

With Kesselring out, the time is now to go get another defenseman.

They’ve managed to survive with Bryson, but he’s a band-aid — an emergency option, not someone you want playing every night.

[ponokasabre]

16 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

If we are talking about trades. 

With Kesselring out, the time is now to go get another defenseman.

They’ve managed to survive with Bryson, but he’s a band-aid — an emergency option, not someone you want playing every night.

UPL for Tyler Tucker from St Louis

[Marty]

Does anybody trust that we’d get good return for either of them?  Who’s our GM?

[GASabresIUFAN]

7 hours ago, Mr Peabody said:

If one must go, You trade whoever gives the best return. 

I think the overriding factor of who stays or go will be who is the better player/fit for the Sabres, with contract/cap considerations second and the type of return 3rd.  

 

14 minutes ago, Marty said:

Does anybody trust that we’d get good return for either of them?  Who’s our GM?

Well some here would argue that the JJP, Mitts and McLeod trades are looking pretty good from a current Sabres perspective, even if scoring is down to 2.8 goal per game and the team overall is still mired in the Pit of Despair.  The critics would point to the bad Malenstyn, Norris and Greenway trades on the other side of the ledger.

Edited 16 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN

[oddoublee]

3 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

He's talked about wanting to play with his brothers in NJ 

I think Canuck fans are bracing for it 

Well...NJ has to actually want him first.

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2 hours ago, oddoublee said:

Well...NJ has to actually want him first.

Details schmetails.

[kas23]

People seem to automatically conclude Kevyn does horrible trades. The Mitts trade was fairly good, so was the McLeod and JJP (although both of these will have to play out over the next 5 years). The Eichel trade was the best we could get - but if we have to argue this one, the real argument should be what led up to it. The Sammy trade is interesting. I always thought he was about to break out, especially given how well he played his final season here. But, he wanted to leave and given this, I’m sure Adams got what he could. I bet there are 31 other teams who wish they bid higher. Point your fingers at them. The Norris trade? I don’t know how this will eventually turn out. We got damaged goods. Cozens seems to be doing OK in Ottawa (14 pts in 19 gp) but still is -10. At least they have a real player, I suppose. Either way, both have bad contracts. 

[Brawndo]

Here is the Evolving Hockey comparisons 

Neither one truly separates themselves. 

Although Power and Kesselring did look really good together in a very small sample size. 
 

Power is cost controlled for a longer period of time as Byram is an UFA at the end of his current contract 

I would still move Byram if I choose between the two 

 

 

[GASabresIUFAN]

50 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Power is cost controlled for a longer period of time as Byram is an UFA at the end of his current contract 

According to Capwages.com Byram is an RFA with Arb rights at the end of this contract in 2027.  https://capwages.com/players/bowen-byram

[Broken Ankles]

18 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

According to Capwages.com Byram is an RFA with Arb rights at the end of this contract in 2027.  https://capwages.com/players/bowen-byram

Is it not 27 or seven accrued NHL seasons to reach UFA status?  Which he would have after next year.  Even though only 26. Puck Pedia shows UFA is expiratory status. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

18 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

Is it not 27 or seven accrued NHL seasons to reach UFA status?  Which he would have after next year.  Even though only 26. Puck Pedia shows UFA is expiratory status. 

He won't be 27 when the contract expires.   His status likely comes down to whether or not Byram was on the active roster (including injuries) for 40+ games his first two seasons when he only appeared in 19 and 30 games respectively.  If he didn't "accrue" a season in either of those season, then he's an RFA.  If he accrued seasons in both of those years he's a UFA.  Given those were COVID years and he spent a great deal of time on the taxi squad, who knows what his actual status is.

Edited 8 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN

[Archie Lee]

7 hours ago, Brawndo said:

Here is the Evolving Hockey comparisons 

Neither one truly separates themselves. 

Although Power and Kesselring did look really good together in a very small sample size. 
 

Power is cost controlled for a longer period of time as Byram is an UFA at the end of his current contract 

I would still move Byram if I choose between the two 

 

 

Just some added context. Per Dobber lines, at 5v5 Byram has played 104 minutes this year with Dahlin and Power 28. Byram has played 6 minutes with Bryson and Power 23. 
 

[Brawndo]

6 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

According to Capwages.com Byram is an RFA with Arb rights at the end of this contract in 2027.  https://capwages.com/players/bowen-byram

According to PuckPedia, Spotrac, Daily Faceoff, Matthew Fairburn from the Athletic and Greg Wyshynski of ESPN he is an UFA at the end of his deal 

[quill]

Byram has turned out to be head and shoulders better than Power. He carries the puck up the ice with more authority than Power and he's much more intense a player than Power. Byram was good enough when he got here, but the improvement he's shown since that time is impressive. Power has never come close to living up to his number one overall pick status. If we could get a solid playoff type grinder or two for Power I'd be all for it.

Edited 1 hour ago by quill