GDT: Sabres @ Bruins October, 11 2025 @ 7PM MSG-B, ESPN+, Fubo

[kas23]

6 hours ago, SwampD said:

It’s Tage. He cannot be the culture setter in the room. IMHO.

The issue is Tage doesn’t know any better. He could be that leader, but he developed in this mess and what he sees is normal to him. Same for Dahlin. We need a leader to come from the outside. Preferably with the coach and GM that made him a leader. 

[Believer]

9 hours ago, Pimlach said:

He's ballast. 

In a word.

Well done, Pimlach.

[SabresBillsFan]

23 minutes ago, kas23 said:

The issue is Tage doesn’t know any better. He could be that leader, but he developed in this mess and what he sees is normal to him. Same for Dahlin. We need a leader to come from the outside. Preferably with the coach and GM that made him a leader. 

Good luck

[Believer]

8 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

There still has to be something there that can be fixed, doesn't there?

Fear

[Thorny]

7 hours ago, Mango said:

For all th back and forth about Terry v Adams and meddling v absent, it's clear Terry groomed Adams for this role. They are in absolute lock step. Theres no side to pick. It's a circle. 

The team is built in Terry's vision and Adams absolutely shares Terry's vision. There is some nuance to it. Terry meddles with GMs who don't share his vision and is "absent" with GM's who do.

I don't think Kevyn is a "Yes Man". A yes man implies they just do whatever the boss says. Kevyn 100% believes he's doing a good job, 100% believes he doesn't need more cash, 100% believes all the people are in the building.

So does Terry.

I suspect that any changes will result in Appert as HC and Forton as GM.

@Thorny and @mjd1001 are arguing different sides of the same coin.

There needs to be change at GM. It's our only chance. But the odds of Terry making a good hire and staying out of the way are remarkably low.

Great post. People as a rule seem to have difficulty seeing nuance 

7 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Anyone and I mean anyone else is better. Anyone. 

And this 

[Thorny]

the most salient element however is that Adams deserves to be fired..so he should be fired. Even leaving aside the fact it could be reflective of a change of mindset for Terry, or that he could get lucky with a new hire, or that there literally can’t be someone worse - it at the very least shows some element of accountability. That this element is somehow underplayed well escapes me: THE BIGGEST issue with the sabres is lack of expectation and accountability. That’s what put them in this mess. People keep taking about culture - without a level of accountability that doesn’t exist.

Adams is demonstrably bad so he deserves to be fired. “But will the new hire even be better? Terry sucks!” is an elementary level diversion. Of course Terry is the big bad. It does not change the fact that Adams deserves to be fired 

we learn at like age 5 that “two wrongs don’t make a right.” Avoiding firing Adams cause it “might not make a difference” is bottom of the barrel thinking. He doesn’t deserve to be GM. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Thorny

[PerreaultForever]

9 hours ago, Pimlach said:

I think you are hitting  on the right points.  Puck battles are a problem.  Slow to get to a loose puck, not working hard enough.  

The Power Play is bad and has been for a long time. 

I wanted Geertsen to pummel Zadorov, that would have been a worthy contribution because he can’t play a normal 4th line shift.  

Puck battles has been the issue for years. They are soft, they quit on plays, they won't battle hard, they won't pay the price. It's not a coincidence that in Bruins discussions they often get to "Mittlestadt doesn't battle hard enough I'm worried about him" and he's actually getting better but is still the most Sabre like. Jokiharju seems to have grown a pair and that might be because he's playing beside Zadorov. 

To the last sentence would Geertson pummel Zadorov?

Chara handled him in his old age. Zadorov isn't Chara, but he's younger and he fights pretty good:

Zadorov holds his own against Olivier (who I think is the best fighter in the league):

But Zadorov was smart. Why fight a loser fourth liner? The chirping was hilarious. 

Edited 4 hours ago by PerreaultForever

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

Puck battles has been the issue for years. They are soft, they quit on plays, they won't battle hard, they won't pay the price. It's not a coincidence that in Bruins discussions they often get to "Mittlestadt doesn't battle hard enough I'm worried about him" and he's actually getting better but is still the most Sabre like. Jokiharju seems to have grown a pair and that might be because he's playing beside Zadorov. 

To the last sentence would Geertson pummel Zadorov?

Chara handled him in his old age. Zadorov isn't Chara, but he's younger and he fights pretty good:

Zadorov holds his own against Olivier (who I think is the best fighter in the league):

But Zadorov was smart. Why fight a loser fourth liner? The chirping was hilarious. 

I saw the video - Chara has 5 inches on Geertson and he used every inch to keep away and land whatever he could from a safe distance away. Chara was smart.  

Zaradov ran Power off the ice and into the bench from way behind the play, the camera didn't pick it up but the announcers did, and the refs let it go.  He also had a late hit on Tage.  So Geertson answering is what we needed, whether he wins or loses is not as important.     What else can he do in his 4 minutes of ice?  Taking Zadarov off for 5 minutes would have been a positive for the Sabres but Zadarov preferred to chirp away from behind the linesman.   

[PerreaultForever]

10 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I saw the video - Chara has 5 inches on Geertson and he used every inch to keep away and land whatever he could from a safe distance away. Chara was smart.  

Zaradov ran Power off the ice and into the bench from way behind the play, the camera didn't pick it up but the announcers did, and the refs let it go.  He also had a late hit on Tage.  So Geertson answering is what we needed, whether he wins or loses is not as important.     What else can he do in his 4 minutes of ice?  Taking Zadarov off for 5 minutes would have been a positive for the Sabres but Zadarov preferred to chirp away from behind the linesman.   

Oh yes, I was just responding to your sentence that said "pummel Zadorov" to point out the outcome would not necessarily be a one sided affair. The concept of vengeance for the hit on Power is another matter. From what I've seen from Geertson so far is he's a non factor. IF Geertson was using his body, if he hit a Bruin into the bench, maybe then you'd see a Bruin response. Pretty sure you would actually from Jeannot, or Zadorov, maybe Kastelic, but there'd be a response. But Geertson plays passively and ineffectively so why bother with him? 

Ruff knows the Sabres are soft and he's hoping they play bigger with a guy like Geertson around, but so far they don't. Maybe Krebs does and maybe Benson will, but overall they just aren't that sort of player and that's what we have, a bunch of Jack Quinns. Some of them look like they've already checked out. Geertson is just Ruff trying to redo John Scott. They'd be better off with Dunne in my opinion because, although he's not as heavyweight, he plays a more complete and effective 4th line game. 

[Pimlach]

10 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Peterka should have been signed, If I’m Tuch I play out my time and hit free agency 

I like Tuch, so I say this in all honesty - it would be best for his career to move on next season.  I understand that he loves the concept of being a Sabre.   

[DarthEbriate]

53 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I like Tuch, so I say this in all honesty - it would be best for his career to move on next season.  I understand that he loves the concept of being a Sabre.   

Tuch got to live his childhood dream and wear the crest. (Both old school and ‘90s.) That’s awesome for him.

But this organization is not the Sabres of his dreams. It’s the Pegula-Adams version. And as a hockey player with a dwindling number of years to play, he and any other self-respecting player who wants to win, should get away from it if at all possible.