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7 minutes ago, Thorny said:

It’s frankly unfathomable they ran back the management group - they knew this was coming they had to 

They didn’t even change the goal song. 

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3 minutes ago, Believer said:

We have an owner who doesn’t give a damn what the fans think.

His Commissioner says he is doing a good job for Buffalo.

The value of his franchise increases every year.

No credit to him.

Opening night when Bettman showed up was a sellout crowd.  That is what they care about the most (not that it will last long)

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5 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Maybe Lindy should look more like a coach with the game on the line instead of standing there like an old man waiting for his wife to pick out the perfect cantaloupe.

Worse, cantaloupe are out of season during hockey season.  

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What value does Stahl add?

Yes Man to Adams?

 

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Just now, Pimlach said:

Worse, cantaloupe are out of season during hockey season.  

Josh Allen's parents could probably get Lindy a good deal.

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1 hour ago, Goldseatsaud said:

Why does Pegula get a pass from the Buffalo Media ? Ralph Wilson didn’t 

Matthew Fairburn from the Athletic is one of the few reporters that have mentioned that Pegula is the problem. 
 

 

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

They added Stahl and Jarmo to the management group.  Recall that after the “palm trees and taxes” press conference that the national press consistently reported that Adams was the only GM in the league with no advisors on his staff.  Fingers pointed at Terry.  
 

When you say “they”, you are really saying Terry.  

No, the report was that Adams argued for not needing advisors because he felt threatened by them 

You know what I meant. The key management guys are still the same

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I’m exhausted.

Between watching and commenting on the lackluster Sabre effort and the negativity on the board tonight, my own included, I will look forward to another chance at our first win on Monday.

Goodnight all.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Believer said:

What value does Stahl add?

Yes Man to Adams?

 

Don’t know.  Whatever he does is probably entry level stuff for now, he is brand new to FO activities.  

Jarmo was the significant add, he was the successful directing of Scouting with St Louis,  and the GM for Columbus for awhile.  

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Maybe an over-reaction from the first 2 games:

-Quinn needs to be told he doens't get any more minutes unless he spends the majority of his time in front of the net in the offensive zone.  He has turned into a total perimeter player and he has to be broken of that forcefully.

-Doan I'd like to see get a bit more ice time and a shot on a top 2 line. Take awy 3-4 minutes from Quinn and give them to Doan.

-Without Norris, as soon as Benson is back in the lineup, Benson-Kulich-Tage as a line.

-Tuch.  Again, only 2 games but I really don't see a reason, or have any desire to give him $10m+ per year as he ages through his middle-to-late 30's. The team can lose just as well with him as without him.

-Byrum.   all I see in him is a 'somewhat' better version of Bryson. Meaning, nothing special other than he somehow gets a ton of ice time every game without doing much with it. he's not HURTING the team, but I don't see much special.

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32 minutes ago, Forecheck said:

The only real question remaining with this club is do they clean house in November and actually see if by some miracle they can save their season or do they (far more likely) wait until April to do it. Either way I feel fairly safe saying this “should” be the final year of the Ruff/Adams experiment. Any other sports franchise I’d be 99% sure of this. With the Sabres it’s 50/50 at best they do anything consequential. 

Any other sports franchise this experiment would have been over years ago

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10 minutes ago, JustOutsideChicago said:

I am curious what role Jarmo is really playing behind the scenes. Personally I think the jolt should be firing Appert tomorrow.

They aren't firing Appert. He's the HC in waiting.

jim carrey attorney GIF

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17 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

At least with the Sabres, Has Pegula given any indication he wants anything other than "yes" men, or wants someone he 'feels' comfortable around and not someone who will disagree with him in any way?

Terry wants to be made to feel listened to, to feel important. To feel like his thoughts on the hockey department and roster are being heard ALL THE WHILE being protected from criticism. Who is going to take that role?

Until that changes, nothing really changes.

For the love of god can we not do the “doesn’t matter if we fire Adams” thing? 

he deserves to be fired for god awful performance, full stop

never mind the fact that he’s not executing Terry’s plan, Terry is signing off on Adams’ half assed one. OF COURSE it might help if we fire him - the very fact Pegula deemed in the scenario that the performance wasn’t good enough would be a welcome sign on and of itself

the GM’s job is to present a working solution the the owner and convince them of it - it’s the same for all GMs 

 

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4 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Matthew Fairburn from the Athletic is one of the few reporters that have mentioned that Pegula is the problem. 
 

 

Didn't Harrington write a really critical article about Pegula a year or two ago also?

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7 minutes ago, Ctaeth said:

Do you think we'll get a thirty for thirty on the sabres after adams departs?

It’ll only be 10 minutes long because that’s all they’ll be able to get anyone involved with the Sabres to show up for

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Just now, Thorny said:

No, the report was that Adams argued for not needing advisors because he felt threatened by them 

Your info was once true, but now outdated.    Adam’s may have not wanted advisors but he got two added this past off season.  

So, they did add to management, therefore they did NOT roll back the same management team as you erroneously stated.  
 

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9 minutes ago, Believer said:

What value does Stahl add?

Yes Man to Adams?

 

Token hire - Adams didn’t want veteran help

Just now, Pimlach said:

Your info was once true, but now outdated.    Adam’s may have not wanted advisors but he got two added this past off season.  

So, they did add to management, therefore they did NOT roll back the same management team as you erroneously stated.  
 

I already said - you know what I meant. The manager is still the same 

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1 minute ago, Thorny said:

For the love of god can we not do the “doesn’t matter if we fire Adams” thing? 

he deserves to be fired for god awful performance, full stop

never mind the fact that he’s not executing Terry’s plan, Terry is signing off on Adams’ half assed one. OF COURSE it might help if we fire him - the very fact Pegula deemed in the scenario that the performance wasn’t good enough would be a welcome sign on and of itself

the GM’s job is to present a working solution the the owner and convince them of it - it’s the same for all GMs 

 

Totally disagree.  The whole point of my post is if you fire Adams, unless Pegula changes his mindset you are going to get basically an "Adams clone".  

The bigger change happens not with Pegula having the same role/mindset but a new GM that he picks. The needed change ONLY happens when Pegula decides to make a change at GM and take a step back (maybe get that PHO as another layer between him and the GM).

If you are removing Adams, I do not want that "Adams clone" or someone who is in the current organization with the same mindset. When they make a GM change, they need to do better, and that likely means getting someone Terry won't always feel comfortable or wanted around.

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1 minute ago, Pimlach said:

Your info was once true, but now outdated.    Adam’s may have not wanted advisors but he got two added this past off season.  

So, they did add to management, therefore they did NOT roll back the same management team as you erroneously stated.  
 

Jarmo and Staal aren’t even adds to the management group, so your correction of my supposed erroneousness was in fact erroneous. They were added as special advisors  

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