Byram has packed up his house and will be moved: After the Whistle

[Sabres Fan in NS]

So, the Avs dumped Casey and looks like the Sabres may be dumping Byram.

Begs the question - who is the dumbest GM in the NHL ??

Looks like a tie.

[LGR4GM]

23 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:

So, the Avs dumped Casey and looks like the Sabres may be dumping Byram.

Begs the question - who is the dumbest GM in the NHL ??

Looks like a tie.

Byram is worth more than Mittelstadt 

[JohnC]

17 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:

So, the Avs dumped Casey and looks like the Sabres may be dumping Byram.

Begs the question - who is the dumbest GM in the NHL ??

Looks like a tie.

Which GM regularly has his team in the playoffs? Which GM regularly has a team that is usually a Cup contending team? 
 

It was rather quickly recognized that Mitts was not working out in Colorado. The GM then took a corrective action in short order. That’s how a smart and flexible GM works.
 

Maybe you should reconsider your assessment? 

[shrader]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Byram is worth more than Mittelstadt 

And you have to at least see what both sides get if/when they dump. The Colorado side is written but not ours. 

[JohnC]

58 minutes ago, shrader said:

And you have to at least see what both sides get if/when they dump. The Colorado side is written but not ours. 

It’s going to be interesting to see how the Byram saga plays out? Will he be kept or dealt? If kept, what will his contract be? If dealt, what will be the return?

Just my opinion, I think he will be dealt. But I don’t know what his market value is because of his contract status. Intriguing off-season issue.

[Carmel Corn]

3 hours ago, JohnC said:

It’s going to be interesting to see how the Byram saga plays out? Will he be kept or dealt? If kept, what will his contract be? If dealt, what will be the return?

Just my opinion, I think he will be dealt. But I don’t know what his market value is because of his contract status. Intriguing off-season issue.

GMKA will get fleeced…that or overpay to retain him

[Pimlach]

15 hours ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:

So, the Avs dumped Casey and looks like the Sabres may be dumping Byram.

Begs the question - who is the dumbest GM in the NHL ??

Looks like a tie.

I see it the opposite.  The Avs GM got a piece they really needed at the time, but sacrificed a better piece that he had in a position of excess.  Improve the roster and win right now was his goal.  When the Avs GM saw that the guy he acquired was not up to par he easily moved him for a more proven veteran.  

Meanwhile the Sabres GM admitted he didn’t know how to use the player that he acquired because they have similar skilled players on big contracts at the same position.  The Sabres GM never filled a real need, created a new hole, and failed to improve his team.  At least he gets a shot at trading Byram to hopefully add a player we need but the trade made for a better player has not improved the team. 

[JohnC]

43 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I see it the opposite.  The Avs GM got a piece they really needed at the time, but sacrificed a better piece that he had in a position of excess.  Improve the roster and win right now was his goal.  When the Avs GM saw that the guy he acquired was not up to par he easily moved him for a more proven veteran.  

Meanwhile the Sabres GM admitted he didn’t know how to use the player that he acquired because they have similar skilled players on big contracts at the same position.  The Sabres GM never filled a real need, created a new hole, and failed to improve his team.  At least he gets a shot at trading Byram to hopefully add a player we need but the trade made for a better player has not improved the team. 

As you point out, the Colorado GM made a player judgment and trade decision based on a roster construction and team need considerations. The trade decision wasn't simply based on an individual talent question as it was about rounding out a team i.e. making the team better. It seems whenever KA makes a personnel decision he doesn't look at from a broader perspective of how to make the team better. He sees pieces as individual entities instead of seeing how they fit together.  He's a checkers player in a chess match. 

[Pimlach]

45 minutes ago, JohnC said:

As you point out, the Colorado GM made a player judgment and trade decision based on a roster construction and team need considerations. The trade decision wasn't simply based on an individual talent question as it was about rounding out a team i.e. making the team better. It seems whenever KA makes a personnel decision he doesn't look at from a broader perspective of how to make the team better. He sees pieces as individual entities instead of seeing how they fit together.  He's a checkers player in a chess match. 

In fairness I think he has tried.  Rumor was he was after Pesce a few years ago (a very solid RHD) but they could not get a deal done.   Seems to be too little and too late more often than not.  

Edited 3 hours ago by Pimlach

[JohnC]

5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

In fairness I think he has tried.  Rumor was it he was after Pesce a few years ago (a very solid RHD) but they could not get a deal done.   Seems to be too little and too late more often than not.  

When discussing trades, a number of options are explored before a deal is settled on. That's the nature of most trade transactions. You consider option A, B, C etc. Negotiating a deal isn't a quick and neat process. As you point out, there are a lot of factors and considerations that impinge on what you want to do. Most often, you settled for what you can get instead of what you want. That's the mix-bag nature of the GM position. It's unreasonable to judge a GM on any one particular deal because there are so many inhibiting factors that we are not aware of. The way to fairly judge a GM is his body of work over a period of time. On that longer time frame, KA is a dismal failure. His record is his record. The source of the failure is the owner who selected him to be the GM, and even worse kept him on way beyond the time it was evident that he wasn't up to the job. 

[LGR4GM]

KA lacks imagination and panics when plan A doesn't work out.