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SabreSpace Trade Proposal: Cozens and 8th for Cirelli


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9 minutes ago, Taro T said:

My gut says they'll get out of 2 of the older guys' contracts by essentially asking them where they'd like to play if they aren't in TB and then essentially giving the player to that team for next to nothing as what TB gets in return is cap space & the ability to keep Sergachev & Cirelli & Cernak which overall "keeps the band together" longer than trading the RFA's away for market value worth of prospects & picks.

Our fanbase, and every other fanbase of teams with GM's that "weren't smart enough to beat that offer," will collectively lose our collective marbles over the vast unfairness of it all.  Hopefully St. Louis isn't one of the winner's of TB's "we're buying a new boat, want the old one cheap buddy" sale because had the Sabres still had O'Reilly maybe Buffalo could've gotten one of those boats that just needs some new upholstery but still run like new.  THAT would stink.  When they go anywhere elsewhere, this guy will give the old 'eh shrug' as they weren't waiving their NTC to come to the Sabres at this point in bvn time.

I agree with the spirit of this, but with the caveat that teams like St. Louis will not be where those players end up; they simply can’t afford them.

Really, of the “favoured teams” only Colorado Is in a cap position to add the luxury of a declining $5 million winger.

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26 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I agree with the spirit of this, but with the caveat that teams like St. Louis will not be where those players end up; they simply can’t afford them.

Really, of the “favoured teams” only Colorado Is in a cap position to add the luxury of a declining $5 million winger.

Don't forget, those other teams can be over the cap in the off season & can find ways to "fix" cap issues as well.  (And, not that they ever would, but they could simply not honor the guy's NTC which is their right under the CBA & trade him if absolutely necessary.  That would prevent them from ever getting this opportunity again, but ...)

Let's hope you're right about the Blues. ?

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22 hours ago, steveoath said:

Exactly. Tampa are not in a position to extort anyone. If GMKA can work some magic then great, but we shouldn't be giving up the most. 

Exactly my point.  An experienced  GM knows that he goes into talks with Tampa in the drivers seat, and a savvy GM does not have to give up the most in a deal with them.   While Adams lacks experience we need to see him rise up to the occasion and improve this team. 

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On 7/24/2020 at 1:32 PM, dudacek said:

Point and Killorn for Cozens, #8, Jokiharju (and $10 million to re-sign your RFAs). Or, alternatively, substitute Cirelli for Point and Mittelstadt for Cozens.

Will Tampa get any better offers to solve their roster/cap problems?

As a Sabre fan, would you do either deal?

 

YES

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On 7/24/2020 at 2:53 PM, Taro T said:

My gut says they'll get out of 2 of the older guys' contracts by essentially asking them where they'd like to play if they aren't in TB and then essentially giving the player to that team for next to nothing as what TB gets in return is cap space & the ability to keep Sergachev & Cirelli & Cernak which overall "keeps the band together" longer than trading the RFA's away for market value worth of prospects & picks.

Our fanbase, and every other fanbase of teams with GM's that "weren't smart enough to beat that offer," will collectively lose our collective marbles over the vast unfairness of it all.  Hopefully St. Louis isn't one of the winner's of TB's "we're buying a new boat, want the old one cheap buddy" sale because had the Sabres still had O'Reilly maybe Buffalo could've gotten one of those boats that just needs some new upholstery but still run like new.  THAT would stink.  When they go anywhere elsewhere, this guy will give the old 'eh shrug' as they weren't waiving their NTC to come to the Sabres at this point in bvn time.

Ouch. I hope there are some reasonable options out there without a NTC or our 2C next season could very well be on this team already..

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