BuffaloBorn Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 per channel 2 news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Per Tim Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannepanne Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Ted Nolan is 8-11-4 since Nov. 13. (when he became interim coach) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 So what exactly is the difference anyway? Does it mean that they don't first have to give you a vote of confidence before they fire you if you are interim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 It doesn't mean much, but it implies a few things: The coach will likely be around at least until the end of the season. Sabres will likely offer a contract extension of at least a year. Tells the players for better or worse that the coach is here to stay. Tells the coach that he can start to shape his coaching staff a little more, especially in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I would like to see Nolan's contract, because they never talk about giving him an extension. Just removing the tag. Removing the tag of a guy on a one-year deal is just a courtesy and nothing more. Which is what "doing something for him" implies anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 It doesn't mean much, but it implies a few things: The coach will likely be around at least until the end of the season. Sabres will likely offer a contract extension of at least a year. Tells the players for better or worse that the coach is here to stay. Tells the coach that he can start to shape his coaching staff a little more, especially in the off season. Would it be in bad taste if they made the offer for $500K/yr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 If they do make him the coach, can we officially refer to Darcy's time, not as the Regier Era, but as the Nolan Hiatus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 It doesn't mean much, but it implies a few things: The coach will likely be around at least until the end of the season. Sabres will likely offer a contract extension of at least a year. Tells the players for better or worse that the coach is here to stay. Tells the coach that he can start to shape his coaching staff a little more, especially in the off season. PLF said Nolan was here till the end of the season at the original presser. I'm sure that was a condition for him taking a leave from the Latvia job. Also, you are not going to put together much of a staff if you only get a one year extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 PLF said Nolan was here till the end of the season at the original presser. I'm sure that was a condition for him taking a leave from the Latvia job. Also, you are not going to put together much of a staff if you only get a one year extension. Murray knows the Sabres....he's seen them play the past decade. He knows who's been naughty and nice, and I am sure appreciates the effort Nolan is getting out of a subpar team as opposed to Lindy at the end. His uncle also undressed Ruff as a coach during the '07 playoffs by pressuring the point on the PP, which led to disaster by the time Lindy could figure out what hit him. Murray has admitted they need better players, it's going to take another year to gather some momentum. If you listened to his interview in TO, he says his guy Luke Richardson is in a good place right now with his team and family. They probably give Nolan a 3 year deal...assuming he is the coach for next year, then playing it by ear. Terry will eat the salary if it came to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Murray knows the Sabres....he's seen them play the past decade. He knows who's been naughty and nice, and I am sure appreciates the effort Nolan is getting out of a subpar team as opposed to Lindy at the end. His uncle also undressed Ruff as a coach during the '07 playoffs by pressuring the point on the PP, which led to disaster by the time Lindy could figure out what hit him. Murray has admitted they need better players, it's going to take another year to gather some momentum. If you listened to his interview in TO, he says his guy Luke Richardson is in a good place right now with his team and family. They probably give Nolan a 3 year deal...assuming he is the coach for next year, then playing it by ear. Terry will eat the salary if it came to that. I think that is exactly how it should work out. Nolan is the right coach for this team right now and for next year as well. If he can help the team make the step the following year he might stick around, if not, you know what they say about coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 After the recent extensions, I don't think it's unreasonable to extend Ted Nolan more than one year, and have Terry eat it if the ###### hits the fan. Mostly for this sort of reasoning: Also, you are not going to put together much of a staff if you only get a one year extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Right now you've got Randy Cunneyworth and Joe Sacco in the organization, and you can bet there will be a new guy in Rochester and maybe others elsewhere. Patty wants to buy every shiny toy out there for his staff and right now Terry is happy to oblige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Murray knows the Sabres....he's seen them play the past decade. He knows who's been naughty and nice, and I am sure appreciates the effort Nolan is getting out of a subpar team as opposed to Lindy at the end. His uncle also undressed Ruff as a coach during the '07 playoffs by pressuring the point on the PP, which led to disaster by the time Lindy could figure out what hit him. Murray has admitted they need better players, it's going to take another year to gather some momentum. If you listened to his interview in TO, he says his guy Luke Richardson is in a good place right now with his team and family. They probably give Nolan a 3 year deal...assuming he is the coach for next year, then playing it by ear. Terry will eat the salary if it came to that. I would agree with most of this other then another silly attempt to throw LR under the bus with no factual basis. I am not a big fan of Nolan but I think he works for at least the next year and hopefully proves me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I would agree with most of this other then another silly attempt to throw LR under the bus with no factual basis. I am not a big fan of Nolan but I think he works for at least the next year and hopefully proves me wrong. My only factual basis on Ruff is that if you watch that series, it was over in a heartbeat because the puck moving D-men and Pommer on the point, couldn't handle pressure and wilted. That's why I found today's interview on GR with Murray interesting. He was praising the puck moving D-men and burying the physical, clear the net guys. His uncle torched a coach who had his entire system built off of puck moving D-men.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 My only factual basis on Ruff is that if you watch that series, it was over in a heartbeat because the puck moving D-men and Pommer on the point, couldn't handle pressure and wilted. That's why I found today's interview on GR with Murray interesting. He was praising the puck moving D-men and burying the physical, clear the net guys. His uncle torched a coach who had his entire system built off of puck moving D-men.... And the year before Ruff schooled his uncle. And in Ruff's first year he schooled Nolan on how to beat the Flyers in the playoffs. It means nothing, has nothing to do with current situation and none of it has any real credibility. Just my opinion and yours and doesn't really have any basis in fact. Teams have been moving toward puck moving defenseman for years and none of it has anything to do with a 2007 playoff series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 And the year before Ruff schooled his uncle. And in Ruff's first year he schooled Nolan on how to beat the Flyers in the playoffs. It means nothing, has nothing to do with current situation and none of it has any real credibility. Just my opinion and yours and doesn't really have any basis in fact. Teams have been moving toward puck moving defenseman for years and none of it has anything to do with a 2007 playoff series. The credibility is this.... Lindy Ruff has been the head coach of the Buffalo Sabres for 16.2 of the past 17 years.....and the new GM has been a key part of a division rival the past decade....so he KNOWS the Sabres....and KNOWS what they looked like the past 9.8 out of 10 years before Nolan got here....Soooo...there is a good chance he honestly appreciates the effort he has gotten out of the team and that Nolan fully deserves a shot moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 The credibility is this.... Lindy Ruff has been the head coach of the Buffalo Sabres for 16.2 of the past 17 years.....and the new GM has been a key part of a division rival the past decade....so he KNOWS the Sabres....and KNOWS what they looked like the past 9.8 out of 10 years before Nolan got here....Soooo...there is a good chance he honestly appreciates the effort he has gotten out of the team and that Nolan fully deserves a shot moving forward. I forgot what fun a back and forth with you can be. I have no idea what point you have been trying to make is. I do agree with the last 26 words you wrote, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I forgot what fun a back and forth with you can be. I have no idea what point you have been trying to make is. I do agree with the last 26 words you wrote, though. There isn't much to go back and forth on these days.....the team got some trustworthy stewards to run the ship, so I give the benefit of the doubt for the most part. The only reason Murray beating Ruff was triggered was because of Tim Murray saying you need puck moving defensemen and not big guys to clear the net. Now he may have been oversimplifying things, but I found it ironic because his uncle saw that's all the Sabres had in '07 and made them poop their britches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 There isn't much to go back and forth on these days.....the team got some trustworthy stewards to run the ship, so I give the benefit of the doubt for the most part. The only reason Murray beating Ruff was triggered was because of Tim Murray saying you need puck moving defensemen and not big guys to clear the net. Now he may have been oversimplifying things, but I found it ironic because his uncle saw that's all the Sabres had in '07 and made them poop their britches. So this is the new schtick? You can't get all riled up about the present so you want to re-hash a series from 6 years ago? A series in which 4 games were decided by 1 goal, two in overtime and one decided by a fluke goal? And the reason this happened was because Bryan befuddled the "puck-moving" defense? Talk to you later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 So this is the new schtick? You can't get all riled up about the present so you want to re-hash a series from 6 years ago? A series in which 4 games were decided by 1 goal, two in overtime and one decided by a fluke goal? And the reason this happened was because Bryan befuddled the "puck-moving" defense? Talk to you later. Yes....that series was over in the 1st period of Game #1.....feel free to find the tape..... I'm pretty much good with things now. Other than being stranded with a blizzard and bronchitis in a week with major hirings, I think I sit back here now. Not much to do but let the sauce cook and stir every now and then. Dinner isn't for awhile. At least I can trust the chefs now not to stick dirty syringes in the pot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 New general manager has said he expects the Sabres to make a large step forward in two drafts. He does not see process over long for them to become competitive. Removing tag and making him permanent head coach with a contract extension is saying he believes Ted Nolan a good man to groom a young team. not just not a placeholder until team gets good he given vote of confidence he important part of it. imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 There is no tank next year if Nolan is coach. We make the playoffs if he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 There is no tank next year if Nolan is coach. We make the playoffs if he stays. Buzzzzzzzzzz kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 There is no tank next year if Nolan is coach. We make the playoffs if he stays. Effort doesn't take a rag tag group of guys to the playoffs. This team is still a bottom feeder either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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