notwoz Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 The Caps were down 4-1 at one point and won 5-4 to win their 14th game in a row. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/07/AR2010020701851.html?hpid=topnews This point in the season is when the top teams start to show why they're the top teams. The pretenders go 2-7-1 in their last 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheReaper Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 How epic was the Caps/Pens game today? Ovie's breakaway was insane. And to rally from 2-0 and 4-2 ? The Caps are my choice from the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 How epic was the Caps/Pens game today? Ovie's breakaway was insane. And to rally from 2-0 and 4-2 ? The Caps are my choice from the east. At the risk of being branded as a traitor to the home team, I have to agree with you. Bruce Boudreau doesn't strike me as a brilliant coach -- good but not great -- but he's a coach with a s**tload of talent and a hard-working roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz315 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Gonna have to agree with you that the Caps will swipe the east, they have been playing great hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz315 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Not to mention Ovechkin's break away that he shattered the goalie cam on rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I guess the Sabres had talent in December then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I guess the Sabres had talent in December then? Not to take away from a thread that's about a great hockey game, but yeah, the Sabs had talent in December. They have talent now. The talent isn't doing sh&t right now, but it's there. And no, it is not enough talent for the Sabs to win the Cup unless Miller gets rest and regains his form. Even then, it might not be, but until then, no, the Sabs won't be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 The Caps were down 4-1 at one point and won 5-4 to win their 14th game in a row. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/07/AR2010020701851.html?hpid=topnews This point in the season is when the top teams start to show why they're the top teams. The pretenders go 2-7-1 in their last 10. Who the hell cares what happened in February when the season is over. All that matters is the end. The Capitals are a great team and are my favorite to represent the East but every team goes through different stretches and it is ridiculous to pull up specific points in the season and say this is what good teams do. Chicago has gone 5-4-1, Los Angeles 9 and 1 and I'll put my money on Chicago for the West. you want to take LA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static70 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Yes, I caught the game as well. Wash. is the team this year in the East. They have it going on. Ovy is just sick. The supporting cast is down right scary as well. I love the topic, its refreshing to talk about other teams every once in awhile. The Pens hung themselves this game, but it was one hell of a 3rd period for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFan526 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 At the risk of being branded as a traitor to the home team, I have to agree with you. Bruce Boudreau doesn't strike me as a brilliant coach -- good but not great -- but he's a coach with a s**tload of talent and a hard-working roster. Glen Hanlon did absolutely nothing with the exact same roster. Hanlon had Ovechkin, Semin, Backstrom, Poti, Green, etc. Hanlon couldn't do anything with these guys. Boudreau has gotten these guys to be basically the best team in the Eastern Conference. I get your point, and it's not lost on me that the Caps are just loaded with incredible talent, but Boudreau is doing what Hanlon could not do with basically the same core and same talented roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Glen Hanlon did absolutely nothing with the exact same roster. Hanlon had Ovechkin, Semin, Backstrom, Poti, Green, etc. Hanlon couldn't do anything with these guys. Boudreau has gotten these guys to be basically the best team in the Eastern Conference. I get your point, and it's not lost on me that the Caps are just loaded with incredible talent, but Boudreau is doing what Hanlon could not do with basically the same core and same talented roster. Wasn't it around this time last year that Pittsburgh fired their coach and they then went on to win the Stanley Cup? Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I wonder if Caps fans were calling for Boudreau's firing and to trade the entire team when they had three 3 game losing streaks and a 4 game losing streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 At the risk of being branded as a traitor to the home team, I have to agree with you. Bruce Boudreau doesn't strike me as a brilliant coach -- good but not great -- but he's a coach with a s**tload of talent and a hard-working roster. I watched that game too, and I have to say it's one of those games that make me wonder if the Sabres and Capitals play in the same league. WOW!! Just wow! In a weird way, it makes me completely obvlivious to whether or not this team wins it's division, makes the playoffs or even makes a trade. At this point, I feel a little too convinced that no matter what we did, the Caps would eat us alive in a 7 game series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I wonder if Caps fans were calling for Boudreau's firing and to trade the entire team when they had three 3 game losing streaks and a 4 game losing streak. Oh my God, what an amazing point! Because the Caps and the Sabres are pretty much identical in their talent levels! Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static70 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Oh my God, what an amazing point! Because the Caps and the Sabres are pretty much identical in their talent levels! Yes! :lol: The OP is absolutely correct though, Buf lacks the talent to be sure, especially talent like Pitt and Wash in the East. But hey, look at the bright side. There is hope, Darcy just said a couple of days ago that the organization is going to find that talent from within :w00t: . I officially want what Darcy is smokin! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGD59 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I think what it comes down to is that Buffalo has too many players with the same skill set and size. This makes them even less talented as a group than as individual players. That is why Myers stands out so much. He is Good and Big. The thing that struck me watching the Pens and Caps yesterday was their size and how strong both teams were on the puck whether it was skating the puck out of the defensive zone, the clears were made head up facing up ice with 2 hands on the stick or on the power play neither team was easy to knock off the puck. Scoring by committee is great until the team hits a slump and one guy has to keep scoring IN SPITE of his teammates. The Sabres by contrast clear the puck with one hand with their backs turned up ice, fumble the puck on the power play, fore check weakly, struggle to get through the neutral zone and most importantly IMHO is when a game starts going bad they lack the size and hitting ability to slow the other team down and make them pay a price in the corners. Even teams like Carolina and Columbus can go into the corners and just think about making a play not about getting hit. This is what makes Darcy’s comments, at the behest of Quinn and Galisano, so infuriating. (Why in God’s name even address Kovilchuck if all you can say is he is a bad fit) Grier and Montatdor are small pieces to what should have been a much bigger change understanding that the salary cap makes this hard. The hardest thing to take about “Improve From Within” is the fact that winning the Cup is not a business goal of this organization. They are saying Bufffalo Fans it is the overall goal of the Sabres to play .550 hockey and win a first round play-off series (and even that seems hard to imagine this year.) If winning the Cup was a goal they’d do something big not because they would sure it would work, but because the Sabres as currently constructed are incapable of being or growing into a Cup contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Quick glance I come up with the Caps worst 10 game so far this year as 4-4-2. Sens: 4-6-0 NJ: 3-6-1 Pens: 3-7-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I think what it comes down to is that Buffalo has too many players with the same skill set and size. This makes them even less talented as a group than as individual players. That is why Myers stands out so much. He is Good and Big. The thing that struck me watching the Pens and Caps yesterday was their size and how strong both teams were on the puck whether it was skating the puck out of the defensive zone, the clears were made head up facing up ice with 2 hands on the stick or on the power play neither team was easy to knock off the puck. Scoring by committee is great until the team hits a slump and one guy has to keep scoring IN SPITE of his teammates. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Oh my God, what an amazing point! Because the Caps and the Sabres are pretty much identical in their talent levels! Yes! You're right, the talent difference is noticeable. Just like BFLO and Pittsburgh. BTW, where are the Pens in the standings? It's great to rely on one player, especially when they get hurt.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheImpact Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 epic game yesterday. wheres our 40+ goal scorer like ovi at this point in the season?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 This has turned into a pretty good thread. Glad to see a lot of interesting comments and observations. I guess the name I gave the tread was a bit misleading. It had as much to do with effort, grit and heart as it did with talent. The four-game losing streak is one thing. It's not the losses per se, but the way the Sabres played during that stretch. I saw a lot of listless, half-hearted effort. Also, it's not just the losing streak, it's also the west coast swing, in which the team hardly distinguished itself. That adds up to nearly a month of bad hocke. In my mind, it's not just the talent on the team, but what you do with the talent, and I'm not seeing this team put out the effort. I'm not of the opinion that Lindy's the problem for the lackadaisical performance of this team. I place the blame squarel at Darcy's feet. It's up to him to find players who can play and thrive in the Sabres system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 sorry for the typos, i'm working from my blackberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 If we had a 40-50+ goal scorer on This team (VANEK WHERE ARE YOU?), we would be borderline cup worthy. Guys like Ovi and Sid literally don't F*ckn miss a wrister up close uncontested, they are unstoppable when they get a good look. Vanek looks slow and clumsy compared to these superstars, and Vanek was supposed to be our super star. Proposed trade. Vanek and someone else or a pick and try to steal Stamkos from the Lightning. He will be a superstar, and he's a sniper. We have no one on this team that can consistently shoot well. Pommer might be our best but he's not a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheImpact Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 vanek has that contract weighing him down so whos going to want him? THANKS OILERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 If we had a 40-50+ goal scorer on This team (VANEK WHERE ARE YOU?), we would be borderline cup worthy. Guys like Ovi and Sid literally don't F*ckn miss a wrister up close uncontested, they are unstoppable when they get a good look. Vanek looks slow and clumsy compared to these superstars, and Vanek was supposed to be our super star. Proposed trade. Vanek and someone else or a pick and try to steal Stamkos from the Lightning. He will be a superstar, and he's a sniper. We have no one on this team that can consistently shoot well. Pommer might be our best but he's not a star. If only they had a chance to trade for one. Oh, wait a second, they did. :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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