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Usually when we have these types we trade them away or let them go, Zadorov, Kassian, Foligno, Kane, Carrier, DesLauries, Lemueix, Barnaby, Ott etc... not that they were all of them all that... but their play doesnt seem to be a priority... we like em Big and soft... Like Power and Muel and Wilson, and Krupp and Myers etc... or little and figure skating...

To ne usually the team that gets the best player wins the trade... there can be no doubt here unless Östlund or Levi turns out to be a major superstars...

agreed... another year of adams running it back, no playoffs and bad trades... the hole gets deeper.

So I dont want to over think this... and I get everyones point... but for where I am at and what I would like to see... Nothing wrong with rewarding a player in the AHL with some showtime... nice little 3 or 4 game stint rotate him thru 4th line, Power Play 2nd line etc... to give him some insight on what he needs to do to develop and build an offseason plan for him.... I do not want him to finish the season here, I think its too early and he is better with a playoff run in the AHL... with respect to feelings of players on the team... I get it... but if you are scoring less than 10-15 goals a season on a team that has been last in the conference and hasnt made the playoffs in 14 years and are upset by this... get a thicker skin or play better.... But yes give the kid a couple games of experience in multiple situations and grow him for next year... that I am fine with.

Indeed he has not LOL... he is more the passive aggressive type... preferring players that give dirty looks when $h/it goes down.... lol

This is totally whats going to happen and we will be having the same conversation next year I am fairly certain. That being said, I am not for a tank etc... they need to learn to win... but its just kind of our luck...

Right now he looks like the best player we got in the trade... who knows when Samuelso... err Norris is gonna decide to grace us...

I want the best draft position possible... that said... no more tank... young guys need to learn to win... they just do... this was a game I think finally I saw a team skate hard for at least 45 minutes... and dominate... now the Penguins are smallish and really not good... but I dont care... it was fun to see them click... great to see Kozak get another... I just like that kid... Great to see Kulich look like he can be something that is part of a solution... great to see Riemer battle for every save even up 7-1.... the only not so great was they looked like they were coasting in the 1st half of the 3rd... and Owen Power is just so unaggressive it really hurts his game and the team... like Cmon man... you cant be a Defenseman at your size and play like Villie Leino in the corner and in front of the net...

Exactly my thought

This is the answer... and replace him with competence... then let that GM decide if they let him walk on an offer sheets, sign lt, sign trade etc... same with Power and his development... bottom line is we can debate all we want... I just dont want Adams making any of these decisions...

He is the opposite of what we need in terms of attitude and play... he had a feud with JT Miller cause JT got too pissed off when they lost... uhm... hard no for me especially on this team... we already traded one of the only players we had that hates losing in Cozens... not too many of those guys left...

maybe 15 or 20 years ago... not now...

You are 100% spot on but if fear they are the Sabres... its hard to find a team that cant make the playoffs in 14 years when half the league makes it and we get to draft high every year... the incompetence literally knows no bounds... they are probably thrilled with their progess towards the basement this year... nothing changes... they are gonna do what they do every year... put lipstick on a pig.

Nothing changes rinse wash repeat lose remain laughingstock of the entire sports world...

He is an NHL goalie he is just not a good to great one... if he left another NHL team would pick him up I am pretty sure. I do wonder what he would look like with a Defense in front of him. Oh I think I would take Zadorov immediately just for the nasty factor...

Matt Ellis the coach - the Matt Ellis roadmap to the great abyss

I am with you we are becoming remarkably proficient in seeing the positives in losing a game

The fans who still care all the other categories are an F

💯 agree... I begged for them not to allow him to do anything but they did and here we are....

I agree with everything you said. I do think the problem however is the construction of the team. The players they picked. They are losers. The GM that assembled the team assembled losers they are all the problem. If Terry doesn't see this he doesn't see the problem. If he doesn't bring in hockey minds and not project managers who redid the bathroom and soccer execs and old players he liked or people from Pittsburgh then he doesn't see the problem. We will see if he sees the problem. I do agree he knows there is a problem. I dont this he sees what the problem is....

I fear this

this is true and can happen... first step is admitting there is a problem... not sure Pegula sees a problem... his next move or lack thereof will show if he does... but the road back to being a franchise that is accepted as competent is a looooong way away... I believe this drought goes closer to 20 years than 14.

aaaaaaaand this is why I have been saying God, please no, dont let Adams make any trades... I know everyone is going to say just wait Cozens will fizzle out... but I disagee... and I think we got stuck with Muel as a forward... but time will tell...

What no Ville Lieno hate?

Exactly