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6 hours ago, Taro T said:
You don't think Krueger & Botterill are in the same page? What's your basis for THAT assumption?
As for whether Krueger wanted to see more of Cozens at present or not, his not getting pencilled into any lines as a regular his last 2-3 practices gives an indication that he didn't. Or was that on Botterill as well?
Am willing to agree the final say on where Cozens is now was J Botts, but have no reason whatsoever to believe Ralph wasn't on board.
I honestly don't know if they are on the page. I hope so. What I do know is that RK has been critical of Casey's play in the preseason, and the Sabres roster is very limited at Center so IF (my assumption) JB was the one to send Cozens back to Junior, what alternatives does the coach have for 3C with the current injuries and players remaining on the roster?
to @erickompositör72 point about the coach having the final say on the line up - I concur. But decisions on the final 23 active roster have more to do with the GM. Especially if your coach is a first year coach with little experience. This is not Joel Quenneville in Florida. Unless you have a coach with 20+ years experience where they decide the roster and the line up.
Unless Risto is traded for a grade A RW, making Erod available for a 3C role, I don't think there is much competition for this spot...today.
I'm also in favor of sending the kid to Roch not just to work on his game for 18-20 minutes a night but more so to send a message. Kids today are more entitled than ever. I think the message was received by Tage, as he seems to have worked very hard this summer. Maybe just optics and good fodder for the media. We'll see.
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10 hours ago, Taro T said:
How many U Minny games you watch? He centered a bunch of shmucks there.
And never said going to the A would ruin him. Said he'd figure stuff out quicker being in a league where going to the house by himself like he did in college and the WJC works far less frequently than it would in Ra-cha-cha would benefit him in the long run. And he did that far less frequently this preseason than he did last year. IMHO. And it looks like Krueger agrees as Cozens is in Lethbridge and there is nobody else getting 3C usage this week.
This is an assumption, based on what? Does JB not have a bigger say on both the decision to have Cozens sent back to Junior AND Casey not being sent to the AHL? I don't think Kruger has enough capital to overrule the GM's decisions (for now), and we shall see how CM is deployed over the first 20 games to better understand what Krueger thinks of his game.
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3 minutes ago, ... said:
Rob Ray said on WGR if Risto stays the team is better.
Came in late to his interview. What was the player Ray said is not guaranteed to make the team, and Bulldog thought was?
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10 hours ago, Ducky said:
I'm pretty sure you pay taxes to the state/province you are playing in.
For example, the Jets are playing the Sabres so the Jets players pay NY taxes.
This is how I understand it anyway.
Not sure if you saw the follow up post of this...
Most states measure duty days to determine when these visiting athletes should be taxed. This includes practice days, along with game days, that are spent in that state (and city depending on whether that city levies a jock tax as well). To determine the duty days spent in each visiting state, the work days spent in the visiting state are divided by the number of workdays in a season, from preseason through the postseason.
So Tampa plays Buffalo once in NYS, so as long as they depart that evening, Players are subject to roughly .37% of their income (which is 1 day divided by the total season of 270 days) at the NYS state income tax level. Based on Points AAV that equates to less than $2,000, or insignificant.
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3 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
I'm going to disagree with the popular view. I think he is a better hockey player than he was last season and with a new coach and a new system and hopefully a whole new attitude you can't assume ANY player will be what they were last year. Some might "fit" Kreuger's way much better than they fit Housley's (and some might be worse - hopefully not). I think Sobodka can still be a solid penalty killer and 4th liner unless Cozens is deemed ready to make the roster in which case he's out and Cozens is in.
The guy I want to send to Rochester is Mitts. At this point, I'd rather see Asplund on the roster (which likely will not be the case).
I agree with the bold. But not much else, although I hope your right. Love to see a head coach have a Svengali effect that energizes the team. What if Vlad and Tage have breakout seasons? Heads would explode, and we would see the ROR trade thread debated once again. Not expecting this, but any is possible.
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13 minutes ago, WildCard said:
How did you calculate that effective tax rate? Taxes are based on where you play each game, not where your team itself is located. Given that each team will play 41 homes games (mostly), the rest is still conference/division dependent; does Toronto play more games in more tax friendly cities does Tampa Bay is a tough question to answer
These are standard Income tax rates for high wage earners. Found on multiple sites in a Google search for effective tax rate. Also note that just b/c TB plays 41 road games, does not imply 1/2 of their salary is subject to that local tax rate. Players aren’t limited to federal, state, and city income taxes though, as they also face jock taxes – but these aren’t resident taxes, rather they are specifically designed to tax visiting workers. NHL players owe taxes in a number of states they visit and even some cities.
Players aren’t limited to federal, state, and city income taxes though, as they also face jock taxes – but these aren’t resident taxes, rather they are specifically designed to tax visiting workers. NHL players owe taxes in a number of states they visit and even some cities.
Non-resident taxes have been levied in a number of states for years. After the 1991 NBA Final between the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers, taxation of visiting athletes trended upwards and became a revenue stream for states and cities. These non-resident taxes in the United States and Canada aren’t limited to just athletes, but to the staff traveling with the teams throughout the season as well. Essentially, any non-resident workers that perform work from which they earn income are subject to these taxes.
Most states measure duty days to determine when these visiting athletes should be taxed. This includes practice days, along with game days, that are spent in that state (and city depending on whether that city levies a jock tax as well). To determine the duty days spent in each visiting state, the work days spent in the visiting state are divided by the number of workdays in a season, from preseason through the postseason.
Illinois only taxes visiting athletes if their home state taxes Illinois athletes when they play away games – so the Stars don’t owe the state of Illinois a jock tax when in Chicago because the Blackhawks aren’t taxed by the state of Texas.
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Let's compare to Marner's deal using the effective tax rates between Toronto and Florida. I've also assumed that in year 2022 Point could be looking at a $15M AAV deal. After three years under a third deal (assuming he resigns in a US state with no state tax, like Tampa), Point he exceeds the 6 year total of Marner's current deal. And by a lot. So I'm not going to declare this completely one-sided.
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3 hours ago, Radar said:
This really makes for a good discussion. Fans buy tickets to see super stars vs to see winning team. I think definitely they will pay for wins. How to best build a winner? Probably depth not handful of elite players?
Might not be easy, but I bet a GM could trade one of these high priced/elite players for three or maybe four of these depth players for about the same AAV. The theory being to solidify the middle six. Building depth seems like it’s impervious to failure. ?
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5 hours ago, inkman said:
He wasn't the Droid Rakru was looking for
Do not legitimize this.
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5 hours ago, Taro T said:
I'm not opposed to giving Cozens a look at 3C. IMHO, slotting him in at 2C would be setting him up to fail (just like slotting Mittelstadt there is) and slotting him into Larsson's role would be a waste.
Well, you've got 1/2 your wish. Expecting Johansson is slotted between the guys you want Cozens to center, but who knows.
+1 on the bold.
I have a feeling if there is any chemistry with these three it could be what the second line looks like opening night.
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39 minutes ago, Brawndo said:
Steelers acquire Fitzpatrick from Dolphins, no not that one, for a 2020 First Round Pick
Smart by Miami. Trading with KC, Packers, Philly or the Cowboys will not yield a top 10 pick, which could very well happen with Pittsburgh. From the Steeler perspective not sure what they think they can achieve this year. How many first rounders from Miami next year? Three, plus the first overall? Epic Tank.
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If we were playing Card Sharks, I’d say “Jim, I’m going higher”.
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16 minutes ago, pi2000 said:
Future Star? No.
Next Sheary? I like Sheary's game, he hustles, creates turnovers on the forecheck, can skate well and plays with pace. I believe he bounces back in a big way this season.
Vesey I see as a depth guy, bottom of the lineup... just because he's a giant douchebag.
That said, Vesey did have a modest +3.25 TRpm last season compared to Sheary's -7.34.... but the douchebag factor is too big in this case, I can't accept him as a Sabre just yet.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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Where are the SabreSpace Goalie experts that can dispute this? Binnington @ #9 overall with just one year logged. Cory Crawford @ #18?
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28 minutes ago, Thorny said:
But I’m not. I’m trying to make it clear that while the circumstances surrounding the deals are similar, the talent in each case is vastly different.
And that’s my central worry on the matter: that our poor return on a good player is holding up our ability to get a marginal one on a not-good player.
Or could it be that the ROR trade had a date specific accelerant that affected the return. He took the best of what was out there, and this time there is none, and his evaluation of the return offered is not what is deemed acceptable. Yet.
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2 hours ago, Taro T said:
Here's to hoping.
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Yeah, can stand him for many reasons. His affiliation with Boston obviously tops on the list. I know Sabres fans thinks he hates Buffalo. I haven’t seen a recent bias but still don’t like him.
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5 hours ago, Brawndo said:
I expect a follow up where Pat Sharp replaces Milbury in Studio permanently. It’s all about growing the sport, and 67 year old dinosaurs are not capturing the right demo.
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1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:
I keep agreeing with you about not giving him 17mil. He will be worth that but I get not giving it to him. You either bridge at 2-3 years or go with 8 years.
My original comment was about feeling bad if Dahlin were given the max contract for 8 years. I would not feel bad about that because he will impo live up to that. That does not mean we should do that.
Then let's stop debating it. We agree what the term should be. We agree his years 4-? will be extremely successful. We disagree slightly with the AAV. In my opinion, no one is worth 20%.
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7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Hold up, just a quick note. You most assuredly do not offer Rasmus Dahlin a 5 year contract. That is the worse idea. You could do another 3 years or you go 8. It is basically just those 2 options.
I'd give Dahlin whatever he wants short of a deal that gets him to UFA status. He's going to be that good. Again though he isn't going to ask for the max and as we are now seeing, RFA's are getting more and more leverage. That's why none of them have signed. It is becoming like football almost.
Of course you don't offer 5, but as you state above (which I agree with whole heatedly), the RFA leverage is using 5 years as a way to hedge their bets to both a.) get paid now, and b.) still obtain a max year deal after. I'm just saying IF you have to go with a 5 year deal (like Matthews) then you try to max out your opportunities in that window, which includes other UFA's and then negotiate after that time. Same would apply for a 3 year bridge. And IF you want to go 8 (whihc I'm all for as an option too), based on the limited negotiation power of an RFA, it certainly would not be 17.2 million AAV. You would only be competing against yourself.
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6 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:
These guys were only drafted 3 years apart - 2015, 2018. Say they both play 13 years - you're claiming that we definitely won't win a cup while they overlap, but definitely will in Dahlin's twilight? Or do you think that Jack's going to leave but Dahlin won't?
Neither. I'm suggesting a bridge contract allows Salary Cap decisions for other players in 2021 that allows them to compete for the cup for at least 3-5 years. A Max deal for Dahlin, assuming Sam is going to get his this year ($8.5 AAV) would place the Sabres in 2021 with 4 players consuming 52% of the Cap. I'm saying it does not have to be this way. A 2-4 year deal in the $10M range will allow other signings so the team can compete between 2012-2025. Whereas a Max deal would not.
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4 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
After this season you will reconsider. I would give Dahlin 17mil x 8. Best part is he won't ask for that. If he is who I think in terms of his talent, we are talking 8years x 12-14mil.
I'm on record stating the Sabres will deliver a Stanley Cup based on Dahlin's timeline, not Eichel's, so I'm right there with you on expectations. Similar to the Kings playoff run in 2011/12 with Doughty. However there is a reason the CBA is drafted the way it is, so that RFA's have less bargaining power. Of course the trend is to lock up players longer & earlier, but to assume a Max deal is even an option is ludicrous. You bridge or go to 5 years to ensure you have cap space for others. THEN you pay Max. Not after your ELC.
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@dudacek I appreciate the list of NCAA Player comparisons and the cogent defense of his collegiate career. I think I too gave up on his ability to contribute to the Sabres this season. Partly due to his point production, advanced metrics and overall observations. But comparing his overall PPG at UConn to the others, and assuming the ratio of difficulty (.41) interesting to note:
- Eichel is performing 24% better than the "assumed" rate of difficulty using NCAA stats
- Larkin 22% better
- Roslovik 19% better
- Boeser 59% better
- Connor - 6% worse
- Compher 15% worse
- Tage is 46% worse
I would not be surprised to see him start in Rochester regardless of his performance in camp. Ralph and others using tough love to see if he has the intestinal fortitude to push and prove himself there first. What I definitely know is that looking at Tages' collegiate numbers, and AHL numbers compared to others, and factoring his age, has left me a glimmer of hope that a 18/18 year (this or next) is reasonable to expect.
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6 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
I'd give Dahlin league max and sleep like a baby
Max salary is 20% of the upper limit. With salary cap projections for 2021 of $86m that’s $17.2. Uh-No thank you.
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On 8/23/2019 at 9:29 AM, Huckleberry said:
I think some people are forgetting Samson actually makes jeff and jack better, they are worser without him.
Let me add more of what Rakish supplied. From Natural Stat Trick. Jack and Jeff played only about 24 minutes the entire season 5v5 without one of these three: Sam, Jason or Evan. With an obvious lion-share to Jason and Sam. And while Jason's TOI was half of Sams, his splits suggest they (Jack and Jeff) played better with Jason than with Sam. Higher Corsi, Higher Fenwick, Higher shots for %, higher goals for %, and higher % of HD goals for.
Now I don't believe that Jason is better than Sam in any way, but what I observed in the first part of the year is that Jason did not look out of place on a first line of a team that was in contention and competitive. I think Sam's time spent on the first line was sufficient for him to gain the confidence that he can drive play, and execute without Jack or Jeff. KO got 12 minutes, and Tage 10. The results were awful. Maybe the 2018 Sabres did not have another piece that would fit besides Jason or Sam, but Housley did not seem to even experiment with the idea.
The intent of including other stats is to suggest that a good player/finisher (Vesey/Olofsson?) can help deliver similar results on the top line while at the same time leveraging Sam to provide better results on the second line.
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