PerreaultForever

Well there's nothing and no one that makes you say they are perfect as is. Not the management, not the coaches, not the players. We have no character, no identity, no future. It is the most inept sports franchise in North America.

You sound like Adams. So much belief in Quinn. He hasn't shown that at all. He might do that, but he also might do next to nothing. Yes I would trade Dahlin if I could make the team better. I have no interest in trading Dahlin for the sake of trading but if I can get better I trade anybody. Nothing and no one on this team has shown themselves to be so brilliant they are a cornerstone. There's nothing to be a cornerstone of. Honestly, if I could, I'd trade the entire roster and start over like an expansion team. Teams are still looking to make moves. Many teams around the league are actually trying to win. I know, it's an odd concept Sabres fans aren't used to.

Why Quinn? NOBODY on a losing roster is no move for me.

Right now, but earlier there were more. You need to be more proactive and anticipate teams that want cap relief. Dallas and Vegas were both options for sure among others. You get on the phone to those teams BEFORE free agency starts.

You're absolutely right, but that's a common thing with GMs in general. They stand by their guys over the guys from the previous GM. I guess it's partly stubbornness and partly feeling a need to justify their actions but most GMs believe in the guys they believed in at first often regardless of what's actually happening. So I'm not surprised. He overpaid him too, but thankfully not long term. Maybe Quinn will become what he wants but so far I see no reason to believe that's true.

I read somewhere on twitter that this D of Dahlin Byram Power Kesselring Samuelsson Timmons is the youngest D in the league. Don't know if that's true or not. I think if Zucker, Greenway and Norris all go on IR at some point the roster would be one of the youngest if not the youngest again. We definitely still lack veteran experience and leadership. Their plan is stupid.

You see an edited version? The Quinn comment I laughed about is at 25:45

Amusing how little of that was on free agency. I admit I did laugh however when Adams got the phone call from Quinn and asked him if he was in the weight room.

But they are not here. You can't say we have the guys we got from picks we traded for if we are unloading the guys we picked to get those picks. There's no progress there. What we got for Eichel and Reinhart does not equate to what they are. Dahlin as I said was one of the two first overalls. I'm not going to say "we drafted well" when we pick the top ranked overall #1 pick cause we were first pick. Nobody is going to say Islanders GM was a genius this year for picking Shaefer. You could also argue we should have taken Draisaitl not Reinhart but what would be the point of that? The point is IF we were truly great at drafting we'd have a roster filled with our draft picks and we would have hit on several lower picks as our bottom six and depth at least so we wouldn't have to trade for that and keep getting that wrong as well. Considering how high we consistently get to pick and how many extra picks we have, our drafting has been mediocre at best.

Not entirely true. A lot of very high picks so a lot of players but how many Sabres picks do we have on the roster aside from the 2 number one overalls? Quinn, UPL, Samuelsson as guys who should be good by now. Benson and Kulich (and maybe Kozak) as young prospects on the roster. Is that really a great draft haul for a team this bad this long? How have the later rounds worked out for us? Now they rarely work for anybody, but you really can't say we have "drafted very well".

prepare yourself. It's coming.

Murray made many mistakes but you can boil it down to a few huge ones. 1) drafting. Our Nylander vs. their Nylander pretty much sums up the difference between Buffalo and Toronto 2) trying to build a forward group and thinking D wasn't necessary. I mean who can even remember who he had on D and JBot basically inherited a D with who? Bogo as our best D? It was laughable how bad that D was. and 3) putting all his faith in a psycho goaltender. Otherwise, Leafs had Marner, Nylander, Matthews and brought in Tavares. We had Reinhart, (our Nylander), Eichel and brought in O'Reilly. If you swap Nylanders I actually like our group better and those 3 have all shown they can win. The rest of the roster however, pretty much garbage.

Maybe Terry has been complaining to the league about NTCs (without taking any responsibility for creating the situation that put Buffalo on all the NTCs).

I know, but that's been an ongoing thing with me forever. Don't build a regular season roster that you know will fail in the playoffs. Start with the idea of building a playoff type roster and keep upgrading talent until you get there and stay there and compete there. We need players who open up space for the other skill players and players who are on the ice when somebody rocks Thompson or maybe this year it'll be Dahlin. We need grit on every line not just the bottom 3. Joshua isn't Tom Wilson (the ideal version of top 6 grit) or Sam Bennett etc. but he has shown enough skill at times that he could succeed in an elevated role. Again, I just think they construct the roster in a bad and always failing way. Insanity. Just doing the same thing over and over again.

No I see that but I think you also miss my point. The composition of the team isn't going to work. Those lines won't work. I want some grit in the top 6, not just the bottom 3. In the playoffs, Edmonton had Hyman with McJesus. When Hyman got hurt who did they put there? Jeff Skinner? No. Corey Perry. and it worked until they ran up against Florida who are even better at that. This is the kind of thing I'm thinking about. Balanced roster. This is easy. I'm trading Quinn. I hate that lazy soft piece of crap.

Just like Wookie you guys seem to think one guy is all you need. Just absurd. I'm reserving any judgement on Doan until I see him actually play for us. I didn't see much Utah hockey so I have no idea what his if anything. Don't get caught up into thinking he's his dad.

What? You're acting like Greenway is everything? You have one guy who might hit somebody once in a while and that's it? That's all you need?

True, but you're not adding him for points. You're adding him to make your line up tougher. That "harder to play against" mantra we heard Ruff and Adams use here. Also to open up space for your supposed skill players to do what they do. Leafs are managing to turn themselves into a more balanced hockey team now that they aren't salary heavy in the big top 4. 2 1/2 much easier to manage than 4.

A 4th? A freaking meaningless 4th? 1) wtf are the Canucks smoking lately? and 2) could Kevy not have offered more? Is it really 12 team no trade bs again? Terry's really f'd this up.

I would definitely make the call and see what the price tag is. Guy still has a high ceiling from where he's at. If we can get him for prospects or picks definitely.

Oh you Rochester watchers are going to love Kuntar. He's a tempest in a teapot and gets in everybody's face. Bruins fans were wishing he'd become a new s##t disturber for them but he didn't show the skills required for the NHL. He's an AHL guy but the kind of guy Rochester could use big time to go with their skill guys.

This is really Kesselring in Peterka out. The rest is a wash of equivalents. Kids being a year older has been the battle cry for a decade plus now. So Peterka gave us 20-30 goals. Will Kesselring prevent 20-30 goals? Even if he does, it's still the same.

Well you don't have to look far because most of those potential tank teams are not in the Sabres division. First off there's Florida. Same basic team, going to make the playoffs even if they coast a little and don't care about top seed (team is likely a dynasty only at the mid point in a 4-5 year run) Then there's Toronto. Might lose a few points with Marner gone but that team isn't dropping like a stone. They will be in the playoffs like it or not. Tampa. Question mark. Will they fall finally? Been predicted for a while and never seems to happen. I figure they will stay about the same. Ottawa? Could fall but look slightly better, more mature, if Ullmark is healthy and good can't see them being worse than they were. Montreal? Definitely improved. Unless things go horribly wrong there with injuries that team should keep rising. So there's already no spot without a massive increase in points. Massive. Detroit is kind of like the Sabres. I like some of their prospects better but unless Gibson has some sort of change of scenery rise they will miss again and stay a few points up or down from the Sabres. Bruins? Can't figure that team out and I follow them. 40 wins and 40 won fights? Lots of question marks with that team. Still lacks offense. I suspect they will do another deadline tear down, try for McKenna, and then try to pivot quickly with free agency. They have much less patience than the Sabres. But Sabres could finish ahead of them this year for sure. Bruins could surprise and compete for a wildcard but things would have to go very right for them and Swayman would have to be Vezina level. Even if you just add the wildcard pressure from Columbus and NYR the chances of the Sabres, who only marginally tweaked the line up from last year making the playoffs is next to nil.

Perhaps most of the GMs just think well, we aren't beating Florida yet anyway so why waste it this year when next year's FA crop is so much better.

Listen to what he says about Peterka. (and Scott's reply)