Thorny

Relative to DeBoer? I mean ya Sabres could do a Jarmo/DeBoer GM coach duo if they wanted. They could make the playoffs in 2026 if they wanted to

Should be easy enough. If unclear go with call on ice but looking at yesterday and determining intent would be super easy anyways, much as I don’t like it oilers seem they could be team of destiny here

Was gonna tweet at him but then I realized he’s being sarcastic Then review it. Your argument doesn’t hold up. They debate intention all the time: kicking motion, high stick or follow through, etc etc

Ya I’ve hated it since Lydman that’s not going to change. Realizing it was objectively stupid and unbalanced though only makes me more vociferous about it lol

But that’s my point. They are asked to incorporate subjectivity on every other penalty call they make: it’s not that the puck over glass call itself is bad, it’s that the rate at which they call the OTHER penalties (see:zero) drops so far, so that *one call* becomes a more egregious infraction than all the rest and the game essentially becomes a battle of “first to put it over the glass loses.” Puck over glass call is fine if it’s not the only thing getting called but it is. It has crazy undo weight They are incorporating a ton of arbitrary into the result by choice. “No no those infractions don’t matter…that one does though” they are choosing which rules to enforce. Call it by the rules (heaven forbid) or swallow the whistles entirely

Imagine allowing your championship to be decided by a “puck over glass” call in an overtime format where the refs swallow their whistles for every other call. Absolute embarrassment of a league Nosek? Put down the pipes

Now tell me how many sabres games you’ve watched since 2009. I know the extended editions are long, but.. I’m not sure the hockey has been Oscar quality

I guess I didn’t think people would remove all previous context from the discussion. Maybe surprising based on the dim witted nature of my posts but i do get that there are a multitude of components that combine to make winning possible. But my point of course was that, the sabres have to make the choice to do their utmost best to field a team that has those components, and has them within the context of the prioritization of winning TODAY, based on the very real structure of the nhl, the way it has teams accumulate standings points, and the mandate of finishing 8th or better. When I say “by product”, I’m saying that at no point during Adams rebuild has “winning today” been the chief priority by which we have operated: we’ve wanted to win, sure, we arguably even THOUGHT we could or would win, but that desire or belief was nonetheless, ultimately in each case superseded by the unwillingness to spend. Winning was the goal: to a point. It hasn’t been the goal, the priority, outright. Adams certainly believed winning would arrive; arrive organically through the patient maturing of a core constructed with an eye on being a stanley cup contender, one day, and not a playoff team, now. hubris, if I may say so, myself

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The hobbit was released in 1937

Surely you’ve seen LOTR? or do you just mean again

“Why didn’t Pegula declare himself Minister of the Sabres?” asked Ron. Lupin laughed. “He doesn’t need to, Ron. Effectively he is the Manager, but why should he sit behind a desk in Buffalo? His puppet, Thickhead, is taking care of everyday business, leaving Terry Riddle free to extend his power beyond the sabres.”

And I come back to you now… (after having never left) .. at the turn of the tide

Terry doesn’t need to actually be right, he’s rich. He just needs to be able to tell himself he is. - - - great post

I’m saying they don’t care enough about winning in the now IN MY OPINION. whatever the level you think they care, we can go with: and then I’m going to say it’s not enough. Regardless of if they think they are doing enough to make it, i philosophically disagree with their stance that we achieve success now “without mortgaging the future”. My stance isn’t to win now without mortgaging the future. My stance is to win now. The qualifier totally changes it. Adams believes winning is a byproduct Thorny believes winning is a choice if you take one thing from this post, by all means ignore it all and just take in the bold. This is the crux of my argument almost always

that’s an underplayed point too. Everyone is praising the article but we’ve been fairly desensitized over time to how unusual it is for the fan’s pulse on the team on pretty much everything up to and including the behind the scenes to be so on point. Far better than Adams’ pulse on the roster entering into each season

Like @dudaceksays he doesn’t seem particularly interested in moving Pegula in a different direction: I don’t think that’s a flaw it’s a feature Finkle is Einhorn. Adams is Pegula

I think he caters to the whims of Pegula because they are philosophically aligned, yes. It’s calculated in terms of job security which is Adams’ main goal and always has been but that’s sort of the point: Adams didn’t become Terry’s guy because he picked him, Terry picked him because he was his guy. They clearly agree about this stuff, they both don’t care about success in the now

My reading is that the “every decision” thing is well overplayed, at least regarding how much of distinction that would represent relative to other teams. More damning to me is fact sabres are a distant second priority. That’s the lack of $, unqualified hires explained Poking his head in on every or most transactions strikes me more so as someone who wants to tell himself he’s on top of it all with the least energy committed possible rather that someone truly interested in prioritizing success If you don’t see neglect as the main issue with the documented lack of spending, we aren’t going to agree I feel like every few weeks you and me get back to this same spot, you keep getting back to disagreeing with everyone thst Terry doesn’t care and I cannot drive home enough that the lack of spending is a significant trump card beyond any other point you are alluding to If we aren’t spending to the cap, he doesn’t care enough. That’s it, that’s all

There was stuff about Reimer too

As an out of towner with no particular connection to the bills the confirmation that Terry neglects the sabres in favour of them sucks even more

Jury out on Jarmo

I literally said “as suspected”. it doesn’t make it right - I’ve been saying it for a year: Terry is absentee. If the calculation that the bills are more important results in the sabres being neglected, which is the case, he shouldn’t be the owner of the Buffalo f*cking sabres

Neither is an aptitude for being an nhl GM, apparently