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  1. Rust vs Olofsson past three seasons.

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                                               Scor   Scor   Scor                           Goal      Goal      Goal      Assi     Assi  Assi    Shots    Shot      Shot      Ice         Ice
    Season    Age    Tm    GP     G       A       PTS    +/-      PIM       EV         PP         SH       EV        PP      SH         S         S%       TSA      TOI       ATOI
    2019-20    27     PIT    55    27      29      56      14        30        18           8            1         19         9         1         151       17.9       244     1087     19:46
    2020-21    28     PIT    56    22      20      42       9         18        16           6            0         15        5         0         154      14.3       258     1105     19:43
    2021-22    29     PIT    60    24      34      58       7         14        15           9            0         22       12        0         180      13.3       302     1126     18:46                                                          Total  170   73     83    156
    2019-20    24   BUF    54    20      22      42      -1          6          9           11          0          16         6        0         127       15.7        228     993      18:23
    2020-21    25   BUF    56     13      19      32     -23         6          6           7           0          11         8        0          129       10.1        228     974      17:24
    2021-22    26   BUF    72     20      29     49     -16          6         13          7           0          23        5        1           164      12.2        293     1108    15:23
                             Total  182   53     70    123       

                                           GP    Goals    Assist   PTS

    Difference for Victor    +12     -20       -13      -33

    If Rust is being used as a comparison for a contract those are some striking differences not in Victor's favor. Rust started slow in his career and has improved steadily. Still believe Rust's contract is a slight over payment also. I'm not going into intangibles because I believe Rust's and Olofsson's game are similar enough that it is a mute point.

    There have been a number of calls on here for a contract of 4 years @4.5 for Olofsson.  I still believe that is a slight over payment but it falls in line with the Rust's new contract.

     

     

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  2. 7 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    Rust is a pt a game player 2 of the last 3 years. I guess this maxes VO’s contract at 5 for 5?

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    Player                                Tm    Pos  From   To        Active  GP         S%         TOI              G         A       PTS        S
    Victor Olofsson                 BUF  RW  2018  2022      4         188       12.5       3182         0.29    0.38    0.68    2.35
    Bryan Rust                        PIT    RW  2014  2022      8         424       12.9      7028         0.29    0.34    0.64    2.27
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  3. 12 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

    Crazy stat: Bowness has coached more NHL games than anyone else in league history, either as an assistant or as a head coach.

    From Garret Morris.

     

    Hockey ben berry berry good to him.

     

     

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  4. 3 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said:

    If I were the Leafs Id try and do an Eichel like trade and get a lot in return. But only two years left makes that harder 

     

     

     

     

    Malkin is a shell of his former self. Letang had got some serious game left.

  5. 21 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

    You're all over the place.  All I was saying was that JBOT was not a very good judge of talent when it came to the NHL draft.

    He was slightly above average. If you look at his two draft classes he hit on some nice second round and later picks. Pekar, Johnson and Portillo are progressing quite nicely. Huglen is getting some attention now. 

    Bad was Tim Murray. 

    Darcy had better odds of hitting on picks without a scouting staff than Tim.

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  6. 14 hours ago, Eleven said:

    That Rags game was annoying.  Did Pittsburgh actually commit *real* penalties in the third period of an elimination game, on the road, in NYC?

    I missed a lot of it due to phone calls associated with a family situation, but it seemed like every time I went back to the TV, the Rags were on a power play in the third.

    Why is the ice green?  I think you need to put your keyboard in C rather than in B-flat.

    It was the worst officiated game that I have watched during these playoffs. 

    Malkin gets tripped, falls down the Ranger player falls on him then cross checks Malkin in the back of the head so his head hits the ice. That was a penalty on Malkin and not the Ranger player.

    During that same play another Ranger player comes into that (third man in) so Guentzel comes in and grabs the third man in and pulls him off. No face washing or stick work just a simple hug off that we have all seen a thousand times before. Penalty on Guentzel, no Ranger penalty.

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  7. 3 hours ago, JujuFish said:

    It's like you're aware of Gambler's Fallacy and you're overcorrecting.  The odds don't change between plays, but if you buy 10 tickets right now, for 10 consecutive lottery wins, your odds of winning at least one of them are significantly greater than 1 in 300 million.

    Are you saying that if I buy a lottery ticket for each of the next 10 weekly lotteries and I pick the same numbers for each lottery event and that the longer I do this the greater chances I have to win?

     

    1 hour ago, kas23 said:

    Let’s use an extreme example. Suppose you have 2 people. Person 1 plays the lottery only once and has an odds of winning 1 in 300M. Now, suppose Person 2 lives for over 900M years (or better yet, has an infinite lifespan) and plays the same lottery once per day for their whole life. Person 2 does not have the same odds of winning over their lifespan (that’s the key here) than person 1. 

    The odds of a previous lottery  winner winning again with the same set of numbers are the same as the odds of a person that has never one with every lottery played. 

  8. 10 minutes ago, Curt said:

    So if I play the lottery 10,000 in my life, the probability of me winning a lottery drawing are no greater than someone who played the lottery only once in their life?  I haven’t read the book, but I disagree.

    In this case, it’s not even like playing an entirely new lottery a second time.  It’s one lottery in which two winning numbers are drawn.  In a lottery with two winners drawn, there is a greeting chance of winning than in the same lottery with only one winner drawn.

    Lets not throw all common sense out the window.

    Exactly. That is randomness.

    Your are dealing with numbered balls popping up into a tube. Randomness. You can't put a linear equation into that and say that randomness will adhere to it.

    You are saying that if your odds are 5% if you play the lottery 100 times you will win 5 of them. It's not how randomness works.

    You can play it a 1000 times and not win, then win the next 10 in a row. Each time your odds of winning will be 5%.

  9. 12 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

    I'm still bitter about all things Lucic 😜

    I am quite surprised for as long as he has been in the league and the heavy game he plays how effective he is at his age.

    Evgeni Malkin with the Penguins does not seem to have it anymore. He has not looked good in the series with the Rangers.

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  10. 21 minutes ago, Curt said:

    The odds remain the same each time, but of course increasing the number of times that you play increases the chances that you win.

    With the league drawing two lottery winners, the Sabres have a greater chance of winning a lottery draw than if there was only one drawing, and they have a lesser chance of winning than they would if the league was still drawing three lottery winners.

    That's what the book discusses in great detail. It's not true. The odds remain the same, but you can't win unless you play.

    Edit.

    In the case of the Sabres and the NHL the second lottery is effected by taking one team off of the Lottery draw as explained by TaroT. He then states the given odds for the second lottery.

  11. In the simplest of terms..

     

    If I play the Mega Millions lottery and the draw is once a week the odds of the lottery are 300 million to one for me this week.

    If I play again next week, the odds are still 300 million to one for me again.

    If I play once a week every week for 10 years, in 10 years the odds are still 300 million to one when I play.

    Increasing the number of times I play does not increase the chances I win, but the only way to win is to play.

    The odds are still the same odds no mater how many times you play, there is no increase in the probability of winning because you play more. It doesn't sound logical, but Mlodinow explains why.

     

  12. 1 hour ago, JujuFish said:

    I don't know what the numbers are, but if it's 5% in the first draw and ~5.4% in the second draw, then Buffalo's odds of winning one of the two draws is 10.13%.

    On 5/6/2022 at 2:41 PM, woods-racer said:

    @SDS turned me on to a book a few years back called A Drunkards' Walk-How Randomness Rules Our Lives. 

    Talks all about math-probabilities-statistics and how swayed they are or can be. Quite eye opening.

    Read it. You'll understand why it doesn't work that way.

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