mjd1001

This is in another thread, but if you promote from within, are you getting anything different at all? All indications are that Adams is not the dictator of hockey decisions. Every trade, every scouting session, every draft pick is really a 'group think' project. Adams (if he does have any power below Pegula) is not much more than the tie-breaking vote. If Adams is gone but his spot is just taken by one of the people below him, I don't see anything changing.

If I understand you correctly....I like your point. Many people look at a young player and say "he is better than what we have right now as our 10th forward so play him now!". To me I'd rather not do that. Even though you might THINK you need him now, I'd rather look at a young player and say "what development path makes him the best player in 2-3 years from now".

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/20/cnbc-official-nhl-team-valuations-2024.html Toronto $4 Billon, Rangers$3.5b, Montreal $3.1b, Kings $2.85b, Bruins $2.75 most valuable teams. Least Valuable? Columbus at $1b. Sabres are 3rd least valuable at $1.15 Top teams (top 4) all at over $300m in revenue per year. Buffalo listed at $169m in revenue. EBIDTA, 3 teams showed a loss (Columbus, Utah, San Jose). Buffalo was a small positive there at $15.8m. Top teams all over $100m EBIDTA, Edmonton actually tops in the league at $156m Sabres have one of the lowest debt ratios at 4%.

I still remember living it for that half season. pretty vividly. How many games did they actually play for the Sabres? couldn't have been more than 40 though.

The flawed assumption is that Pegula will hire a good GM. I think he wants a GM that will allow him to have 'his say'. As was posted last week, there are several articles, and even direct quotes from the Pegulas that the primary reason they fired Botts is because the hockey dept headed by him wasn't 'listening' to the Pegulas as much as they wanted. So...you hire Adams who is basically the mouthpiece for them. Was Botts a good GM? I don't know, but the primary reason he was fired is that the Pegulas thought they were being 'shut out' of hockey decisions by him. They said that directly.

I dont' think thats it. Terry hired a good GM for the Bills sure, but has he hired so many bad GM's in a row for the Sabres? Or is it that he wants to kinda 'play GM himself' to an extent with the Sabres and keeps screwing it up? I think it is more of the latter. What?

If you are referring to the difference between the success of the Bills and the Sabres, I don't really think so: -There are more layers and complexity between the owner and the roster in the NFL than in the NHL. 'meddling' is a bit harder in the NFL (to have as much of an impact) -Josh Allen. Without him I doubt this bills team would be in the playoffs all these years. But a great QB you (or your staff) stumbles upon can do that in the NFL. In the NHL, unless your last name is Hasek and you are in your prime, one 'lucky' or 'random' draft pick turning into a star doesn't grant you that same level of success. -The Bills are his 'shiny new toy' compared to the Sabres. He gets more attention from them, and right now they are doing better, so its a lot easier for him to want to cut costs with the Sabres and try to 'do things on the cheap' than it would be with the Bills.

And a move to Toronto probably makes them a LOT more valuable than the median/average NFL team.

There is a case to be made that a 'non fan' owner who 'kinda wants to win but only to make money' might be the best owner. They are less likely to meddle. They are more likely to hire the best people the run the team and stay out of their way. When things go bad, they are more likely to not be 'too close' to the team or the players (as a fan) and just want to make changes to get things better. None of this "I'm an owner and I LOVE hockey and I know a lot about it, listen to me!" or none of this "So and so as a player or coach is the kind a player coach I like so lets give them a longer chance". I don't know if this has ever happened (probably not) but if a guy bought your favorite team and said the following: -I'm not a huge fan of the sport but I want to own a pro sports team so here I am -I'm love money and want to make money, but I know the way to make the MOST money is to have long playoff runs -I'm going to hire the best people for the job, and if they don't do the job I will evaluate them with ruthless, efficient honesty How many of us would rather have a 'fan' like Pegula over an owner like that? There are some teams that are run by/with 'corporate efficiency', some with good results, some with bad :Atlanta Braves, Maple Leafs and Blue Jays, but would that really be worse than what we have here now in the Sabres?

I guess a good vibe: As mad, frustrated as I was by the loss the other day, time going by helps. I've 'kinda' forgoton about it and I'm just ready for the next game...thinking like usual there is close to a 50-50 chance of me seeing them win, and that is all I expect when I tune in to watch them.

I get it, I can understand your point of view. If going to the game was the only way I could see it (no high def TV at home) then I would think the KBC would be fine. I just found personally...I can watch and follow the game better at home now than I could in the past vs going to the game.

A big mistake by Boston finally? Elias Lindholm -He has 2 goals through 20 games for Boston so far (8 goal, 36 point pace per 82) -Last year he had a total of 15 goals and 29 assists, and was a -14 for the year. -hasn't scored more than 22 goals in a season since 2021-22, when he started the year at 25 years old. -He is going to be 30 in a couple weeks. He is in the first year of a $7.75 million dollar per year deal that goes for 7 more years. -So far this year he has been an anchor (a bad one) for Boston. His deal will run out when he is 37 years old. He is getting paid more than Tage, and already is beyond his 'statistical' peak.

I have not been to Vegas or Nashville in the arena. I have been to Little Ceasars in Detroit, and over the past decade most recently in Columbus, Boston, and Pittsburgh and they all blow away the KBC. In Buffalo, I go to my seats and thats it, when the game is over leave. In those other arenas, its an experience. I have fun in the arena, I want to see what is going on outside them, I could just walk around and look at the different levels and viewpoints. So Yes, KBC does its job for being a place to watch hocky. But as I said above, if I am ONLY interested in the game....I get the best viewing experience at home. I go to the arena for the game, and a night out, and to see the game and enjoy other things...and KBC is seriously lacking compared to other places around the league.

An outside owner from a big city with deep pockets doesn't care about a $2b stadium in Buffalo. Especially when a market that might be 5 to 10 times the size that will builid a $5B stadium to lure them away is waiting.

And Ovechkin with 2 more tonight. 5 goals in the last 2 days. Leading the league. 15 goals in 18 games. Thats nearly a 70 goal pace. I know he's not going to keep up that pace, but its really beyond understanding how he is doing it at 39 years old (and looks like he's closing in on 50)

If I like Hockey, i'm watching it at home. I get access to my computer, better replays, High def gives me a better view of the game than most seats in the arena. As a pure 'fan', I can watch, analyze, and enjoy 'the game' better at home. I can go to NHL.com and watch the replay of every goal minutes after it was scored, from numerous angles, and go frame-by-frame if I want. I would primarily go to the Arena over watching the game at home for the Arena experience and atmosphere.. Just as a hockey fan, only caring about the game, I get the better experience at home. The only way you drag me to the Arena is for the extras, the amenities, etc. Its not like 20+ years ago when the TV broadcast had a total of 4 cameras (maybe), low-def, and many of we were watching it on 27 inch or less TV screens, while the older Arenas in the league had you sit CLOSER to the ice than the current ones.

Yeah, the common theme is "but they have a new stadium, they aren't going anywhere". Maybe for a bit, and we aren't worried about the next 5-10 years... But a $2billion dollar stadium in a metro area with 1 million people isn't going to anchor a team here. We already have had $5+ billion dollar stadiums (Sofi) and Allegiant field in Vegas would probably cost $3-$4B today if it was started. If Toronto had an opportunity for a team, I don't think I would put it by anyone to build a $5-$6Billion dollar stadium that would generate the owners and the NFL so much revenue, plus the region has about 5-7 times the population, and probably 20 times the wealth. I'm not trying to start a doom-and-gloom thread here....the hopful scenario is that the team stays in the Pegula family for the next generation. But that new stadium won't do much to keep the team in WNY beyond 10 years past its opening. The good news about the story above is that it says its investors with ties to the STATE of NY (doesn't necessarily mean NY city money). State of NY could be people with ties to upstate/WNY.

I think Rosen as an NHL'er is more of a 3rd,4th line guy. Kulich has the potential if all things go correctly to be a top 2 liner. Rosen, while not a big, physical bruiser, I think plays a 'smarter' game. If anyone wants him to be a 20-30 goal scorer, I don't think that is how he gets to the NHL. I think what he may end up being, if he turns into an NHL guy, is a 10-15 goal, 30-40 point potential guy that plays a hell of a defensive game (positionally). Maybe a different look/style on the ice, but end result, I think Rosen's ceiling for results is something like Hecht was 2 decades ago.

I don't think its really about being a backup, but he needs to learn to just be plain better.. The speed of the game is something that I don't think practice can prepare you for. And watching Levi play, a few things came to mind on some goals he allowed recently (or almost allowed): -The NHL players are a LOT better than what he has played against (obviously). I'm not saying he can't make the save, but he may have been able to make saves in the past in ways he cannot now. He is small, but in college, he may never had to come out of the net all that far because guys weren't picking corners over the shoulder on him. He needs game reps to see just how far he needs to come out, and when he does leave the crease to know how far he CAN come out of the net and still recover. -Reading his D-men. 2 or 3 times in this season he didn't 'face up' to the shooter and the winger coming in on him during 2 on 1s and 2 on 2s, because it was almost like he was preparing for a move to the other direction if needed, but there was either no one in that other direction, or he had a teammate/D-man there to cover that side. You have a better chance of not getting beat with a great shot from the left if you aren't worried about someone trailing from the right...and if your D has the right covered, come out and challenge to the left. -He also isn't tracking the puck behind the net well. 2 times in the last 3 or 4 games, an opposing player had the puck behind the net, faked to one side and went to the other, Levi fell for the fake and almost didn't get back to cover the side the puck was going to. Again, to me that means he needs to 'adjust' to the speed of the pro game. He needs to try out what he can and can't do in games and I'd MUCH rather have him push his limits to see what he's capable of doing while with the Amerks vs with the Sabres. It just seems to me there is a lot more to playing goalie than 'making the save'. its reading the play. Its recognizing attack patterns opposing teams have. Its knowing where your D-men are, how to communicate with them and recognizing when to challenge a shooter or not based on the location of your D-men. You are learning that with in-game experience, and with watching video after games of what you did correctly, and what you did wrong. NHL or AHL, there will be more 'in game' video for him to watch and analyze if he plays games. Something you can't have him doing a lot with the big club right now.

And the hat trick. What is wrong with 'kids' these days? 39 year old Alex Ovechkin leading the league in goals (tied with 2 others but Ovi has done it in less games). I guess it must be true what they say, anyone under 35 is just lazy.😁

And another later in the game. He really wants Gretzky's record this season.

At this point I have to say yes. I still think occasionally....Bruce Smith. I think DE just isn't as important as QB so that pushes things in Allen's favor. But, Bruce, I feel was probably in the top 5 DE's of all time. Allen? I'm not sure I'd put him yet as one of the top 5 QB's of all time. Again though, position importance matters.

Ovechkin scores again, now has at least 1 goal in 9 of the last 14 games.

For most teams, and certainly fans, the way to do things is 1.) spend money on a good players and staff. 2.) your team gets better. 3.) fans want to see your team, you raise ticket prices and make a ton of money when they fill the arena. 4.) you get richer. Pegula no longer wants to even take that chance. He wants to 1.) stay rich. 2.) have the team get better 'just because'. 3.) won't spend the money until the fans prove they will pay money so he won't take any kind of loss. Its like some strange version of an Episode of the Simpons from 20+ years ago....If Pegula could spend $1 to make the team better, he just might think he would be happier WITH that $1 instead. Plus, I think the Bills being good right now is bad for the Sabres. If he owned ONLY the Sabres, he might be more interested in the ONE professional sports team he would won not being a total embarrassment. But as long as the Bills are good, he can ignore the Sabres and just 'look the other way' at his 'nicer' toy.

Pegula won't fire Adams until he finds someone else who will take order from him, let Terry play 'gm behind the curtain' and take the blame when things go wrong.