Crusader1969

I agree that they have other issues, however I would say that if Hutton wasn't literally the worst goalie in the league over a 3 month period, they'd be still "alive" an none of this would have happened. Of course, it could have still happened after the season was done but if they happened to win the play-in series, I doubt any changes would have happened.

there is no way they let go of everyone if they are about to participate in the 24 team playoff. Maybe it would have happened regardless after the season was over? Though, im confident, some jobs would have been saved.

I just can't get over how many jobs were lost because they played a goalie 30 times with Vision Issues. its mindblowing. Why was JB entrenched 3 weeks ago and now everyone is fired? Get a good goalie tandem, upgrade 2C and lets GO!

The whole thing is weird and troubling.

Could it be that they found out that Jason knew his goalie had vision issues and did nothing ? weird that 3 weeks ago , he was still going to be the GM. This story comes out about that time and now he is fired. just a coincidence?

I would think there are 23 other players who are unhappy with him and would blame him for missing the playoffs yet again. I know I would be pissed. Time for him to go. I can see him being a great mentor in Rochester but no longer has a spot on the Sabers

I haven't read the actual story. Does it mention who knew what and when?

they could have made a trade? there is no excuse. If your goalie is literally the worst goalie in the league for a 4 month period and has told you that he has vision issues, you need to find another goalie. if he didn't say anything, but knew there was an issue. you waive him and remove him from the organization.

is it documented that he told someone ? If he didn’t tell anyone, then he needs to be waived. hell, he should be waived regardless. how different would this season look right now if he could stop a puck between nov and feb?

not the ideal situation, just in preference to Hutton. I already know what Hutton is, Johannson has room to grow.

I would take Johannson and Ulmark over Hutton being in the rotation again. The Sabres WOULD 100% be in the 24 team playoff if he wasn't their goalie in 30 of their games this year. I would even go as far as they would be right there if there was only a 16 team playoff. He let them down time and time again. there is no way he can come back next season. He would be great in Rochester with either Johannson or UPL.

if the Goalie Tandem is Hutton and Ulmark next season (whenever that will be) that I'll join the Fire JB brigade big time. Hutton is not a consistent NHL goalie and needs to be waived or sent to Rochester to mentor UPL.

I agree, having the Sabres miss the 24 team playoff and be excluded from a lottery for the top 2 picks is clearly unfair

I don't think it was a lecture, just a point. We are also debating a mute point..if the draft is in June, they can't trade the pick. Maybe a new thread to what it would take to get Cerelli before the next season starts. I'll go on record that they should trade their 2021 1st rounder (top 10 protected) plus a prospect.

That is correct. Had a lot of time with Kane as well.

of course for next year we all prefer Cerelli to those three players. BUT its not totally about next year. its about the next 10 yes, he played with Stamkos a lot. 36% of his offensive zone faceoffs he played with Stamkos (21% overall) 2nd highest percentage behind Cirelli playing with Killhron. Dont forget Stamkos was hurt for awhile, so this number would be higher if he wasn't.

strome put up more PPG than Cerilli. If strome is cheaper, wouldn't he be the better targer for the Sabres to going after? You'd have Strome and Perfetti. Hopefully people will remember that I desperately want the Sabres to fill their 2C and goaldtending Tandem before the start of next season. Just think it can be done without sacrificing the 2020 1st rounder.

here is an impossible question to answer for you. In 3 years what would you prefer - Holtz, Perfetti or Rossi vs Cerelli? im not sold that Cerelli has offensive ability to drive a line that would put up 50 points with the Sabres. He wont be playing with Stamkos and Kilhorn here. would you trade the 7th overall for Dylan Strome?

why does the 7th pick next year have to be NHL ready? are the Sabres going to win the cup next year? would they even be a contender with Cerelli as the #2 Center? This is the 2015 draft in terms of quality in the top 8 to 10 picks. Rantanen was the 10th pick that year, Timo Meier was 9th pick in 2015. If you look at the top 10, the only forward who would not rank ahead of Cerelli in a redraft is Pavel Zacha. AGAIN, im not saying dont try to acquire him, just don't give up THIS years draft pick.

dear god, now you are adding to the trade? madness! he ranks 128th in NHL scoring in PPG, he plays on one of the best teams in the league. His main linemates are Alex Kilhorn and Steven Stamkos. he wins 47% of his face-offs (hardly ROR) You know who he ranks behind in scoring Points per game? Dylan Strome, why not go after him and save the 7th overall pick?

now you are comparing Cerelli to Mario Lemieux? I get it, he's a very good player but I'm not giving up the 7th in this years draft. Maybe in some draft years I would but not in this one. Not sure why the argument is going on and on and on.....if the draft happens in June, there will be no trades for players who are on rosters.

yes, cause trading all those draft picks in the Tim Murray years worked out sooo well. Remind me, what place did they come in with ROR on the team and Kane (up till the trade deadline)?

Next years top 10 protected pick plus D prospect or 2 If the draft happens in June it’s a mute point anyways

if they are that strapped to have to give him up, you don't need to trade away the 7th overall. Its an overpayment. 2021 lottery protected pick, no problem i understand, he's a very good hockey player. Think you can do the trade and not give away the pick.