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WNBA probably isn't on TNT and HBO. The NHL deliberately makes it impossible for fans to access their content.

Where's all my Reinhart is soft and can't skate ppl at? Come on, it's okay, this is a safe space.

The game I knew Mattias Samuelsson had no place on my team.

Adams isn't smart.

Flattered but I feel like this isn't one of my best drafts. Haven't had as much time with some but did my best. It gets real questionable in the 20s as guys start to look similar. That said, my list is different than most consensus ones so I'll probably be worse off but we'll see. The industry as a whole runs into problems with anchoring, bias, and over scouting some guys (Hagens).

Martin is going to be over drafted. I do not believe he'll be there at 9.

Said repeatedly they don't have to trade him, they should only do so if it improves the team which means for a player that fills an hole or upgrades the forward group.

Yes and then in 2027 it switches to a 16 team NTC.

None of this info is coming from the Sabres side or from ppl with Sabres connections. Almost EVERY SINGLE piece of info on this comes from Seravelli with Friedman occasionally chiming in. Buffalo can just keep Peterka but these guys talk like he must be traded. IMPO, I think the vultures are circling because Pegula hung onto Adams and ppl think he will be desperate. Hopefully Jarmo is able to be a voice of reason. You don't trade Peterka unless you are improving your team, stop being nice howdy doody and put the hammer down. Hiring Ruff was a mistake and last season showed that. They literally got worse last year.

2025 NHL Draft Rankings – Liger’s List top 32 1. Matthew Schaefer, LHD, 6’2” 186lbs: Excellent skater with a high pace and excellent ability to end plays and transition up ice. He reminds me a bit of Dahlin, shame he only played a partial year. 2. Michael Misa, C, 6’1” 182lbs: I thought about making him #1 but there’s some things in his game that I wonder will translate. Still he has a good shot and is able to link plays all over the ice. He’s probably on the level of Fantilli and that’s pretty good for a 2nd overall guy. 3. James Hagens, C, 5’10.5” 186lbs: He had issues driving inside at college but the rest of this game is there with the attention to detail and the ability to make excellent passes while also skating very well. I think he’s been overscouted and ppl freaked out over his adjustment to the NCAA. 4. Caleb Desnoyers, C, 6’1.5”* 178lbs: I saw a bit of his playoffs and that put him ahead of Martone. He doesn’t get enough credit for his offensive talent which is a direct product of him being excellent at the 200ft game. He’s better than Martone and ppl seem to be missing that he’s 25lbs under strength still. Also, centers are more valuable than wingers and I am betting on improved skating with strength. 5. Porter Martone, LW, 6’3”* 208lbs: The pace is the concern and he does not play like Tkachuk so ppl need to stop that. He reminds me more of Reinhart coming up with more physicality but that cerebral passer with a nice shot. I think Martone needs to continue demanding the puck more and being the driver. 6. Jackson Smith, LHD, 6’4” 199lbs: I love watching him skating sideways, it’s delightful and he has powerful strides. He is physical and really wants to push the pace all over the ice. The decision making is hit or miss which is the biggest issue here. Really intriguing package though. 7. Carter Bear, LW/C, 6’ 179lbs*: Other than an awkward skating stride that sometimes gets in the way of his upper body, Bear is a Bear. He’s the best checking forward in this draft, his shot is undervalued, and he makes things happen. He’s the type of guy that wins playoff games because he never stops and he has all the skills (cutting hands, stick lifts, false signals) to be effective on the top 6. 8. Roger McQueen, C, 6’5.25” 198lbs: So if the back is healed, this might be a little too low. I think there are times where he was kept to the outside and should be better at driving the middle but when he was on he was a force. He’s got some developing playmaking and his rush patterns need more variation but the size and overall skill make me think he’s at least a 2nd line center when healthy. 9. Victor Eklund, LW, 5’11” 169lbs: He’s up there with Bear for the motor element. His rush patterns and skating are better and he did it against men in the Allsvenskan. That said, I think his playmaking need works, as good as his checking can be, he sometimes does to much or tries too much. He needs to get stronger and refine his overall game but there’s a top 6 winger in there. 10. Justin Carbonneau, RW, 6’1.25” 205lbs: There’s 2 different Carbonneau’s in the world. There is hope passes, stick handle through everyone, get on my back boys we’re going winning. This one isn’t great because it won’t translate to the NHL. Then there is using the skills and body to extend plays, finding teammates, working the cycle and using an excellent shot to be an overall offensive weapon. He can and will violently defend teammates, don’t F with his team but that sometimes takes him out of plays. I have faith in Carbonneau because of his underlying skating, shot, physical play, and evidence he can adapt his game. 11. Brady Martin, C, 6’ 186lbs: Martin would hit his grandma is she played for the other team and had the puck. He is the closest thing this draft has to a Tkachuk albeit without the size. He has a good shot and decent passing. I think his skating and overall attention to detail need to improve. I am not sold on him having high enough offensive skills to truly be a top line forward hence why he falls below Carbonneau but Martin will be a middle 6 player with top 6 upside who is aggressive in using his body to shut things down and turn things up ice. 12. Kashawn Aitcheson, LHD, 6’1.5” 199lbs: I debated swapping him with Mrtka but I feel that Aitcheson has more offense and is more physical already. Those two factors kept him above Mrtka. He scored 26g as a defender and really activates well on the rush or in the offensive zone. He also hits everything. Really the only one who hits more is Martin. His skating needs more work but it isn’t bad. If he keeps developing you will get hopefully a better Riso type of guy with even more physicality. “Throwback” is a term used on him a lot. 13. Radim Mrtka, RHD, 6’5.75” 218lbs: I’ve come around a bit on Mrtka. I went back and watched a bunch of his stuff because I felt I was too low on him. His moves really well especially lateral which is important. He needs to up the physicality but I felt some of his passing was better than my initial feels. I see the appeal with him, he takes up tons of ice and he does well with his gaps and ending plays. I am not convinced there is enough offense to push him higher but I think at worst you are getting a 3D guy who can give you 7-10g and 15ish assists. He’s pretty good and has a lot of runway. 14. Jake O’Brien, C, 6’1.5” 177lbs: First, I get why he gets into other ranking top 10’s. His 2nd half was very good in terms of his playmaking ability. There is manipulation, passes into space, anticipation, and high level play reading skills. He’s also a center and over 6’ so that gives him a bump as well. I don't feel he handles contact well and I think his game will need more refinement. I think the height and center position has really vaulted him up rankings while missing some of the issues with his skating and lack of physicality. 15. Anton Frondell, C, 6’1.25” 204lbs: Fine… He’s big and a center with a nice shot. His transition game is… non-existent but he can take pucks from the walls to the middle. He is smart in his use of space. His defensive game is solid but I don’t see him being physical like Martin, more that he uses his frame to shield pucks or push into space. Others love him but there is a lack of dynamism outside the shot that makes me wonder why. Every time this guy played in international tournaments I felt underwhelmed with what I could watch. I am prepared to be wrong on Frondell. 16. Lyndon Lakovic, LW, 6’4” 200lbs: At one point I thought he might go top 5 but with all the skill he rocks and his size, he just doesn’t put all that together enough. He’s a poor mans Martone where there is a lot of soft skills but he needs to up his physical game. Lakovic is not aggressive enough with his skillset, meaning I want him to demand and control more. That isn’t about size but about attitude. Still, he’s an interesting player to track because if he puts it all together, that’s a top 6 winger. 17. Logan Hensler, RHD, 6’2.5” 198lbs 18. Cameron Reid, LHD, 6’ 183lbs 19. Benjamin Kindel, C, 5’10.25” 180lbs 20. Vaclav Nestrasil, RW, 6’5.5” 185lbs 21. Bill Zonnon, C, 6’1.5” 185lbs 22. Braeden Cootes, C, 5’11.25” 183lbs 23. Max Psenicka, RHD, 6’5” 185lbs 24. Malcolm Spence, LW, 6’.75” 190lbs 25. Jack Murtagh, RW, 6’0.5” 190lbs 26. Cole Reschny, C, 5’10.75” 180lbs 27. Blake Fiddler, RHD, 6’4.5” 220lbs 28. Cullen Potter, 5’9.75” 172lbs 29. Cameron Schmidt, LW, 5’7.5” 160lbs 30. William Moore, C, 6’2.25” 180lbs 31. Matthew Gard, C, 6’4.75” 195lbs 32. Nathan Behm, LW, 6’1.75” 202lbs * indicated that I did not have a combine height and weight measurement

Indeed. From the great WWII epic, Kelly's Heroes starring Clint Eastwood.

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?"

Is this a bit? If so it's boring.

No it won't. We literally have done this before. How does Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a vet cap dump and a 1st turn around the franchise? The going rate is good roster player, good prospect, some bonus player, and a 1st rounder. That ain't turning around ***** when the only good defender is Dahlin. Awful idea.

Will Petterson skate through a wall to win a playoff game? Will he at least skate into the wall to try?

Well... those are certainly choices

Capspace and age? Wanna get younger

No, it's ***** impossible to ignore. Every post from you is the same thing over and over and over. 450 variations of Pegula and Adams suck. Everyone knows already. Agreed

Omg we get it. Every post doesn't need to be about Pegula and how much he sucks.

Guessing Jarmo told them they need to at least be open to the idea. If Adams wants this to go away he just has to sign Peterka, it's pretty easy.

Lol I was more being saucey. I liked him in his draft year. Will be curious if he ever makes the NHL or stalls out in the A

Somebody find this draft thread so I can be vindicated.

Watch this one:

A lot of pp assists and he's not physical. He also played with a guy who got 71g and sure, his setup helps but Lardis has a great shot. O'Brien needs to work on rounding out his defensive game. Idk, I just don't love the profile and think his assent is because of his last couple months. If he was nastier, I'd be interested but he's a 6'2" center with great passing and hands who isn't particularly adept at checking. If you want one of most creative puck distribution machines in the draft, he's your guy.