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I expect there’s a similar case in between most categories. The idea is to pick the one that best fits your thoughts and post your clarifiers.

Easily the most interesting poll so far: no consensus here whatsoever

No. 😜 (Seriously though, IMO the difference between "non-elite 1st pairing" (top 50ish?) and legit #1 D (top dozen-ish?) isn't significant enough to warrant a separate category for the purposes of the poll)

There's a perception Rasmus Dahlin was awful in the fall and awesome in the spring last season. It's a perception not actually born out of the numbers. Dahlin's best month, production-wise, was November (along with April), with 10 points. In terms of +/-, it was October with a -1. Overall, he was pretty consistent statistically, putting up between 6 and 10 points per month and was a monthly -3 four times. His possession numbers improved from the previous year's but not dramatically so; he's been a positive in 3 of his 4 years, and always been one of the Sabres best possession players. It may be that some impassioned Dahlin-boosting by his coach, followed by more winning hockey by his team played a role in reshaping the narrative in the minds of fans and the player himself. Or it may be that the eye test is what matters here, and that the high-profile gaffs and tentativeness that drove some fans crazy early last year had largely vanished by season's end to be replaced by an assertive, combative difference-maker. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=201658 Dahlin had a career year in goals assists and points, but it was not what one would call a dramatic breakout statistically; his numbers were actually better on a per/game basis in his 2nd season. What did change was the way he was used. For the first time in his career he was deployed as a true #1D, averaging over 24 minutes a game. He got significant PK time and was out on the ice against the other team's best players. He appears to now have the shutdown type of partner most wanted for him in Mattias Samuelsson and may have 2nd pairing support with Owen Power. Dahlin has been overshadowed on the national stage by the likes of Hughes, Makar and Fox putting up near point-per-game numbers sooner in their careers, albeit at an older age. Those guys are generally treading new ground. Victor Hedman jumped to a 50-point player for the first time in his 5th season and a 70-point player in his 8th. Duncan Keith went from 44 to 69 in his fifth. But if Dahlin is going to hit those heights, it might be now or never. What do you expect from Rasmus Dahlin this year? (Last year’s takes here):

Agreed. I think he’s less competitive, but more confident than Dahlin, or maybe a better way of saying it is less emotional, more calm? I expect his game to be a lot more even. It won’t be the egregious errors that people will complain about with Power, it will be them wanting to see more fire.

In Dylan’s year-ended he was asked what Donnie wanted him to work on. His answer: disguising his intentions. Dylan has the physical talent to skate and shoot and pass at a top line level, but he has spent his career to date being able to go full speed ahead and simply overpower his opponents. He needs to add a layer of guile and deception, and learn when to dial it back a touch in order to create space for himself. He has offence he hasn’t shown, and it is going reveal itself. There is too much skill and will there for that not to happen.

I think the only role Power gets in the Calder conversation is when a random Sabre fan says “I can’t believe no one is talking about Power for the Calder.” I don’t think he will be on enough highlight films, or produce enough points, especially early, to force himself into the national spotlight. Dahlin will make sure of that. I do think we will notice earlier than the rest of the world how good he is and by the end of the year his name might start to get trendy. He’s eventually going to be a combination of prime Brian Campbell in the offensive zone and prime Hank Tallinder in the defensive, and that should be an all-star in anybody’s book. Don’t expect too much too soon, but this is not going to be a painfully slow process.This kid is a fast learner and physically NHL-ready. We will be seeing signs of it by the end of this year.

Power’s range combined with his brain could eventually make him elite on the PK. I mean, his tools are everything you want in that role. Im wondering if he might get a lot of PK time even early, given Donnie’s propensity for letting the kids learn by doing.

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. Top 4 PK TOI in the first half of the year Pysyk 97:36 Hagg 77:21 Jokiharju 54:03 Bryson 46:27 And in the second Samuelsson 82:51 Jokiharju 67:28 Fitzgerald 40:45 Dahlin 40:07 That's a pretty significant shift, and then you consider Lyubushkin is likely to get minutes this year, along with Power being brought in to the mix. Hagg, Fitzgerald, Samuelsson and Pysyk (in that order) had the lowest PP goals against per 60 of the regulars. Power had only 20 minutes of PK time, but his PP GA/60 was better than all of theirs. Luyubushkin's PK numbers were mediocre in Arizona and bad in Toronto.

Full agreement on the "it's the fight in the dog that matters" take on the size of the Sabres. Also: Power 6'6' 215 Samuelsson 6'4" 225 Dahlin 6'3" 210 Lyubushkin 6'2" 210 Cozens 6'3' 190 Tuch 6'4" 220 Thompson 6'7" 225 It's not like they've only been adding peewees

A year ago, Sabrespace greeted the 4th 1st-overall pick in team history with a collective shrug; Dulled by 10 years of losing and a handful of failed saviours, the board was ready to accept the (non?)-hype of Power as a non-elite player in a weak draft year. Then the big kid spent the past year trying to change minds. Instead of the mediocre offensive producer he was billed as, Power put up 32 points in 33 college games, matching the U20 totals of recent college studs like Fox, Werenski, Hughes and Makar. He complimented that by delivering poise without the puck and earning the trust of his coaches in all situations. He added 5 points, included a hat-trick, in just 2 games at the pandemic-cancelled WJC, played for Team Canada in the Beijing Olympics, scored twice while averaging 22 minutes in all situations over an 8-game NHL debut, and put himself at or near the top of most “best prospect in the world” lists. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=217120 Power enters the season already pencilled into the Sabres top 4, but without the weight of the world on his shoulders with Rasmus Dahlin tagged to be “the guy.” What do you expect from Owen Power? (Last year’s takes here):

I wonder if the results indicate people weren’t as high on Pilut as I remembered, or people just think the overall quality of his competition is that much better. Seems to me the only guy he could bump is Bryson and Bryson seems significantly better defending.

Pronman has his personal biases in what he values just like any of us, so most of the time I don't get upset or excited, I just use it is a filter and generally enjoy his work. Samuelsson is a good example of that. It seems like he gets what Mule brings, he just doesn't value it like I do. But the actual scouting report on Dahlin tell me he didn't really watch him play much over the back half of the season. Anyone who says Dahlin lacks compete and physicality couldn't have been watching.

The part about Dawson Mercer filling our need for a 2nd-line centre to replace Sam Reinhart was fantastic, but the line I liked best was the one about Cole Perfetti's blazing speed.

I am so sorry.

A 2-way contract offer may have sent Pilut packing to the KHL after the 2020 season, but it didn't prevent him from coming back two years later. Larry spent a good portion of last season watching his production plummet while trying to get out of his Russian contract, but he bounced back nicely with 8 points in 15 playoff games for the delightfully named Chelyabinsk Traktor. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=170049 Once that contract hurdle was cleared, the Sabres immediately welcomed him back on a one-year deal that will walk him to unrestricted free agency next summer. Now 26, Pilut has proven to be an topnotch point producer from the blueline when playing outside the NHL. Prior last season, he put up a 4-year run of 115 points in 186 games combined in the SHL, the AHL and the KHL. He also picked up a vocal collection of fans thanks to some impressive analytics while in North America. What do you expect from Lawrence Pilut this year?

I’d tweak that to the above. It’s an open question as to where guys like Quinn (and Peterka, Savoie, Östlund, Kulich, Cozens, Krebs, even Mitts, Tuch and Thompson) will eventually land. There’s no cant-miss Stamkos or Kane type sure-thing there, but maybe there’s a Drury and a Briere, or maybe even a Kucherov grower or a Toews leader? To me, that’s what’s going to make this team worth watching.

But that’s by design, same as with the leadership debate. All these guys are being given an opportunity to create their own space, to organically make himself “core.” For a team that was dramatically bad one year ago, I don’t see that as bad at all.

Hedman being dramatically underpaid today isn’t particularly relevant to contracts being signed next summer, seven years later. Separately, IMO, Dahlin passed Sergachev last year. To your point, it will be interesting to see who the Sabres decide to lock in with core piece contracts and when. I agree that Adams MO so far has been to push the decision back as far as possible. He did it with Reinhart and Dahlin earlier and with Olofsson and apparently Tage as well this summer.

No we don’t, but the comparables are relevant and the window where a call is needed to be made is a maximum of just 2 years away. The conversation started with a post about a $4 million deal, which would be on the extreme low end of the scale. I found 2 defencemen picked in top 10 in the past decade of drafts who signed for less than $4.8 million on their 2nd contact: Juolevi and Boqvist. Power is better than both of those guys already.

I didn't get a lot of traction when I posted about it earlier, but the Sabres have set themselves up for a ton of internal competition, starting this year and continuing for a while. Skinner Tuch and Thompson have to fight off Mitts and Olofsson who are fighting off Cozens and Krebs who are fighting off Quinn and Peterka who will be fighting off Rosen Kulich, Savoie and Östlund. Then you have Girgs, Okposo, Asplund and Hinostroza sprinkled in to the middle and bottom six mix with Sheahan and Bjork around to keep them honest. And then you have a *****-ton of secondary prospects (Bloom, Nadeau, Kisakov, Poltapov, Rousek, Neuchev, etc...) pushing from behind. IMO, there is not a roster spot that is "safe" up front. You aren't getting it done? Somebody is there who wants your job. You are getting it done? There are better jobs available. It should be a fantastic crucible for development.

I had not seen that and think that's a bad move. His tool kit screams centre to me. Do you know if it was a short-term look during their exhibition, or something they plan to run with? Because it will be terrible for his development, in my opinion.

I agree, at least for this year, but Webster has a point about the coming logjam. It will be interesting to see who is a centre, who is a winger and who is traded in 3 or 4 years. 3 top lines, 7 candidates: Thompson, Mittelstadt, Cozens, Krebs, Savoie, Östlund, Kulich. Östlund is the only one I can't really see sliding to the wing.

I'd be happy if the Sabres end up with 5 20 goal scorers. They have 2 players who have ever scored 30.

Plus there is the Russian kid, Komarov, that we picked in the 5th round this year and who is playing in the Q.