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30 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:
I want to see a departure from the Sabres norm. Berube, Boudreau, a successful coach let go by another organization this offseason. A move that says that Terry has had enough and wants to get serious about fixing this mess.
I’ll prefer this. But if the org is insistent on keeping Granato it has to be on the condition he has a Rick Bowness type assistant and a another veteran assistant coach. I might be OK with bringing Appert up as long as there is well tenured, successful coach (in the NHL) as the other assistant.
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1 hour ago, French Collection said:
Lefty here so I followed those guys more.
Mickelson was my guy for 30 years even though I wasn’t a big fan of his on screen personality. I understand his move to LIV financially, but it was a bit of a stomach punch the way he handled it.
In the Jack vs Tiger debate I am in Jack’s camp because of longevity and top 3’s, top 10’s and such.
I gained alot of respect for Michelson watching a Wednesday practice round for the PGA Championship at Oak Hill in 2003. Lefty and Daly were paired up. I don’t remember which par 5, but they came up to the tee box and pulled 3 woods out of their bag. The small crowd around the tee box booed loudly. Phil and John chatted very briefly and grabbed their drivers. The crowd cheered, and they put on a brief show.
Phil used to get it. Daly always did. It appears that Michelson’s self importance has taken over. I don’t have that respect for him anymore.
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19 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
Don't try to argue with the TM apologists. It's just not worth the effort.
This is the height of hyperbole. Noone is suggesting Murray made good choices. Demonstrably, he selected poorly, both at the draft, and who he chose to trade for picks/prospects. But that wasn’t the point of conversation. The point of conversion was regarding whether Murray traded away too any picks, and it is a fact that he made more draft picks than we were granted through normal means.
3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:Yes he did. Compare the quality of his draft picks to Jbot and KA. He drafted horribly. How many top 3 round busts did he draft? Nylander, Cornel, Asplund, Guhle, Pu, Fitzgerald, Johansson, Martin, and Karabacek. In fact, his best top 3 round pick after Eichel & Reinhart is Lemieux and he said he wanted out before he even got here. TM’s only draft pick on the roster is VO and he is in the pressbox most nights.
Noone is arguing about the quality of Murray’s choices. Do you even context?
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1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:
Murray was hired Jan 9, 2014. Most of the tear down started before he got here. The only big piece that he traded was Miller, who along with Ott netted some pieces and a 2015 1st. As someone else mentioned he also then moved Moulson for a couple of 2nds.
The thing that happened under Murray's watch, and it isn't clear if this was entirely his plan or if he was instructed to accelerate the rebuild and then tried to do so as best he could, is he moved out four players (Armia, Grigorenko, Zadorov and Compher) recently drafted in rd 1 and 2, and the 1st rd picks that we got for Vanek and Miller, and Myers, Stafford, Lemieux and a 2nd, to return Kane, Bogosian, O'Reilly and Lehner. It's debatable whether he got good value; I would argue no, as I think only O'Reilly was both very good talent and a person without (much) baggage. At the time of the trade though, it served to do two things:
1.) It negatively impacted our organizational depth
2.) It made us negligibly better in the short-term, which served primarily to drop our draft position in 2016 and 2017. Now, we might have ended up drafting Olli Juolevi and Cody Glass, but we also could have ended up with Matthew Tkachuk and Cale Makar.
If the argument is that Botterill was worse, I won't quibble.
And if the argument is Murray made poor decisions with the assets we had, I won’t quibble either, but he demonstrably did not squander draft picks. He did trade away and acquire them like the currency they are, and he used more to make draft selections than the team was naturally allotted during his tenure.
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No. More. Rookies.
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2 minutes ago, Derrico said:
How many times has this been refuted? Who is refuting it? He traded a ton of draft capital in his short tenure. I'm not sure how its even debatable.
https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/articles/opinion/sabres-still-paying-sins-tim-murray
Thorny and a couple others have well documented it in these pages. Jason Botteril was much more responsible for using draft capital in trades than Murray ever was.
Go back and look at the number of drafts picks Murray used on drafting players during his tenure.
In 2014 Murray made 9 draft picks, including 1 first, 3 seconds, 2 thirds
in 2015 he made 6 picks. He didn’t have a 3rd rounder
In 2016 he made 10 picks, including a 1st, a 2nd, and 2 thirds.
In 2017, 6 picks including a first, 2 seconds, and a third.
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3 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:
Neither? In his intensity, Dahlin reminds me a bit of Vanek -- just super wrapped up in his own thoughts, in his own head.
And I swear I've seen Dahlin make the #VanekFace
It was rhetorical, and referenced Duda’s bad take.
Vanek, hmmmm?…… more evidence.
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6 minutes ago, SDS said:
How does someone shoot a 74, but hasn’t applied themselves? I don’t see how that’s humanly possible.
He didn’t mention it was a 9 hole score.
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The myth of Tim Murray being the draft capital spendaholic won’t die no matter ho many times it is refuted.
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3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Wilson is free agent. I'd make that happen if I were Adams
Its not the ass hole we want, it’s the ass hole we need.
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On 3/11/2024 at 11:21 AM, That Aud Smell said:
Dahlin is the team's best player, signed to the biggest contract. If history is prelude, he will be made captain. I've come to conclude that he lives too much in his own head and otherwise lacks the intangibles needed to effectively serve in the role.
Anti-Euro bias? Or you can’t let go of 18yr old Rasmus?
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6 hours ago, dudacek said:
He did it because he was the Rick Martin Award winner.
Anyone who doesn't think it's going to be Dahlin hasn't been paying attention.
Neither has anyone who doesn't think it should be Dahlin.
I honestly wonder if there's some weird mix of Euro-bias and people who are still thinking of 18-year-old Dahlin when this conversation happens.
He's the best player, the hardest worker, the guy who sticks his nose in the most, and the guy who cares the most.
I hope the "stand-up for his teammates" crowd was watching how that meeting of the minds at the end of tonight's game got started.
If his name Stemhavolinski and he had a five-o'clock shadow the poll would be unanimous.
I’ll readily admit to not paying mich attention this season, so I’ll not comment on what he’s done captain-worthy this season. In season’s past its seemed forced.
Regarding the anti-Euro comment, it’s an over-stated reaction on my part, but I think it bears stating anyway, ***** that idea. It’s a ***** thing to throw out there blindly, and I don’t appreciate it. The only bias I have is what’s best for the sweater.
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2 hours ago, Thorny said:
I see what you’re saying but if we have too many Owen Powers the issue is the other weaker/redundant Owen Power on the team not the actual OP. OP isn’t the guy we’d shift away from
Tell me the return first.
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Anyone remember a whole bunch of us saying things like “I’d rather be Buffalo than Boston cuz they have no future” like 5-6, maybe 7 seasons ago? That slowly stopped getting pronounced ever year.
I’d still rather be in Boston’s shoes if it were possible to transfer their recent past and near future to the Sabres. They have a loooong way to go before embarrassment. And we keep slathering it on.
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3 hours ago, Thorny said:
Power just isn’t part of the issue
In the context of being part of a poorly constructed roster, he is part of the issue. All 23 are part of the issue as they are all equal (more or less) components of an ill conceived team makeup.
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3 hours ago, matter2003 said:
Quite remarkable the Sabres have promoted so many young players to the NHL including Benson, this years #1 pick and STILL have the best prospect pool. Literally sitting on an almost embarrassing amount of prospect riches at this point.
Wouldn't have been 13 years if Murray had been a little more patient and not traded all the prospects and picks for players that left the cupboard bare when it didn't work out. He set us back 5 years at least.
Have you not learned the lesson that you can’t have a team full of kids? Murray did the right thing, but he chose ***** players for the plan.
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Y’all are nuts re: Greenway. He gave us the exact game he was brought in to give. He’s not an enforcer. He’s a big defensive forward that can put a few points on the board.
Cozens…… yeah, he had a disappointing season.
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Too bad, “best in prospects “ is such a worthless thing to win.
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Just now, Pimlach said:
OJ was an icon before he went nuts. Not gonna make excuses for him either.
Yet another example of Buffalo not being allowed good things.
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1 hour ago, ska-T Chitown said:
I guess I get that people want every first overall pick to be McDavid ... or even Dahlin, but I really don't get the hate toward Power. He is good. He likely will be very good soon (assuming one does not think he is already) ... The Fox comparison numbers are great, @dudacek - and he is 26, while Mr. Number One Flow and person of @inkman's dreams is still just 22! I love Dahlin, but his 2nd year in the league and his age 21/22 season are not that much better than Power's.
The hate is really minimal. Folks can’t criticize without being labeled a hater. SMH
My only complaint is that he really works to avoid contact. Before anyone responds with something, something, Pronger, something. The vast majority of us mentioning his avoidance of contact are not expecting a banger. It’s simply that, were he to use his physical frame to wedge and trap guys along the boards or box out forwards in the front of the net, his play would improve even more. It’s such an obvious gap in his game.
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26 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:
4 goals and 2 assists over the same period of time for Skinner. Not good at all, for sure someone in the category of not 'stepping up' when the team needed him. But Skinner's 4 goals in 18 games over that time (18 goal pace, 1.16 goals per 60) is actually a LOT more productive than Cozens ((5 goal pace, 0.26 goals per 60) or Krebs (5 goal pace, 0.30 goals per 60).
Either way, take that moment (March 3) where they were in the best position all year as far as making the playoffs (other than the start of the season), playing their very best all year....where the next month was going to be the most critical month of upcoming games for this team wanting to make the playoffs (again, since the beginning of the year), and Thompson, Tuch, Peterka, Dahlin....they really stepped up and produced in that critical stretch. Skinner did not, but Krebs and Cousins REALLY did not. 1 goal in 18 games, hardly any assists, being overall minus player....they basically disappeared when the team need players to step up.
Hmmm…… really young guys wilting under pressure. Whoda thunk?
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The irony of fan appreciation night occurring the game after they are eliminated from the playoffs for the 13th consecutive season.
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21 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
For decades it's been a universal truth: When the Sabres skate hard and don't give up on the puck, they succeed. When they don't they fail. We've seen examples of it even this season, but not consistently enough to win... consistently.
I think it was time for Lindy to go the first time around, but I think he could up the Sabres game with the current roster.
We had fragile children with Lindy. No coach puts this team in the playoffs without a few veteran additions.
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17 minutes ago, Mr Peabody said:
Hockey fan here but I’m not a hockey historian. Has any team won in the free agent era (or last 20-25 years) by building via the draft? Doesn’t seem like a good game plan when you’re drafting teenagers. As we’ve seen, the top tier competitive talent will want out before the newbies are ready to contribute at the NHL level.
Also since sports are driven by a “win now” philosophy (as demonstrated by coaching turnover) it would appear to devalue your prospect pool as how many GM’s want to wait 3-4 years for a guy to develop?
Every team wins or looses through their drafting efforts. Every team but Buffalo has recognized that it is important to have a solid base of good veterans to guide their young players.
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Has the Adams rebuild failed completely?
in The Aud Club
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I don’t think it is a slam dunk that our core is the right core. Legit concerns regarding Thompson and Cozens as your 1-2 center punch.
I’m not really concerned about the defense.