PASabreFan
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Apparently.
(even you will like that one, PA.)
Yeah, that was OK.
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If you need that to be a white flag for you to feel good then sure, it's a white flag.
My point was that you wouldn't need convincing about the energy if you just went to a game. I say the broadcast makes a difference. You say it doesn't. You're wrong. Is it quieter than other barns? Maybe. I've already said that, but not by as much as you think because of the amount of the crowd mics that the director allows to go to air.
Why oh why didn't I listen.
Are my eyes wrong too? The Sabres score, and sweeps of the arena show most people sitting.
Ever notice they zoom into a small group of people who are actually cheering? That's an old director's trick, too, isn't it?
In a way, I'm really railing on an ownership and management and coaching team that has bored a great hockey town to tears. I'm also railing on fans who go to a hockey game and won't cheer. I just don't get that. John Vogl pointed out in his game blog the other night that Buffalo remains the only NHL city he's been in that doesn't give a standing ovation to servicemen and servicewomen being recognized at the game.
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In a way, you've made it relevant.
It's one thing to make an observation. Maybe even the same observation twice. It's another to harp on a subject of which you choose not to become a part of the solution. Complaining that other people who make the trip aren't loud enough, especially to the virtual faces of those who are going, is rather bush IMO.
It's all repetitive on here, especially in the Ruff Era (har har). It's a good thing we harp. It keeps you in business.
I don't think Swamp has admitted to going to any more games than I have, but I could be wrong about that.
And, who's to say I choose not to go? Don't make assumptions.
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Feel free to cheer and add some of your own energy every time you go to a game.
I'll take that as your white flag of surrender. Whether I go or not is irrelevant to the discussion.
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My advice, Swamp: save yourself the trouble (but you are right).
And Chicago--one of the best buildings in the league? They didn't have any atmosphere at all until 2008. I was two blocks from the arena an hour before Game 2 last year, and you would have had no idea that the city had a team, much less that Game 2 of the Finals was an hour and two blocks away.
It was quiet at HSBC for the NJD game, though. For good reason: there was little to cheer.
I did not DVR the Chicago game so I won't be able to see for myself what happened when I get home...anyone care to sum it up?
That's good advice. No one will ever convince me that building has any energy whatsoever, just like the team and the burnout behind the bench.
And I'm certainly not going to be swayed by someone who doesn't recognize the history of hockey fans in Chicago.
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Wow. People really have no idea what I do for a living. Kinda cool.
I think we have an idea, since you just told us.
I'm trying to get away from the distraction of whether it's the sound mixing or not.
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It's not a load of crap. I do audio for TV. I've even done audio for hockey (Islanders). I'm not saying that the building may not be quieter than others, but I know for a fact that the producers/director want more ice sound for some reason. I personally like more crowd in my mix. Unless you have CI and go back and forth between the home and away broadcasts and tell me that you don't hear a difference, then you, good sir, are the one who is full of crap.
Again, it has nothing to do with the audio on TV. Forget it.
If someone who goes to the games on a regular basis wants to try and tell me the fans are loud in that building, I'll listen.
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When your team takes on the character of a Philharmonic, that's the type of atmosphere and patrons which will follow. When your team takes on the character of a jazz band, you will get the drinking, dancing, smoking, cheering, and revelry.
Darcy is first chair cello. Quinn plays flute, and Lindy is the conductor with the extra starched shirt.
This team has been system oriented for years. Systems make you think instead of go on instinct. I would much rather see trust within a structure. That's what jazz is. Guys who know in their hearts what to do, and are allowed the freedom to show it. This team has little to none of that.....and it rubs off on the crowd.
That's as well put as anything I've read.
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Actually, all they need to do is fire the MSG producer that tells the audio guy to turn down the crowd mics and bring up the ice mics.
That's a load of crap and I suspect you know it.
It's an accepted fact in media circles that this is a quiet building, and those are folks actually in the funeral home while games are being played. It has nothing whatsoever to do with microphones.
Anyway, I have no problem hearing noise in the building on TV -- l sure as heck heard it when Rick Jeanneret got a nice ovation.
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such as?
I think they could start with the goal announcements, when the Sabres manage to score one, that is. Almost every other building in the league, the home goal announcement comes with the ensuing faceoff or moments after. It keeps the momentum of the goal going. In Buffalo, the announcement takes way too long. (So do the penalty announcements, which has driven the Pens' announcer Mike Lange crazy for years.) I like what some buildings do, where the fans are asked to shout the last name of the goal scorer in the announcement. Guilt the fans into cheering.
I'd also lose the horn. It works in Chicago, because the building is so loud. In Buffalo, it disguises the fact that people don't make a lot of noise when the Sabres score. Well, why should they, when the horn makes noise for them? Again, turn off the piped in sound and let the fans realize how quiet they are. Guilt is wonderful!
Others have commented on the atrocious musical selection. Can they at least throw Lady of Spain and the Eyewitness News theme out the window? Copy the Hawks, they have it right. And a Chelsea Dagger type theme, used consistently, is a great idea. It annoys the crap out of the opponent and almost creates a predictable, psychological effect of, "You are going to lose, and you know what it's going to sound like."
And they really need someone in the crowd, maybe an employee, with a klaxon or something to get the crowd into the Let's Go Buffalo chant.
Of course all this ignores the ultimate reality that the team has to change its makeup to get the fans back in the game. Until then, even if the team is boring, you can't tell me a hockey town like Buffalo should ever have one of the quietest buildings in the league. And that's hardly just my opinion, as it's been brought up by media members, even Rick Jeanneret, in recent seasons.
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I hate to say it....but Gaustad is a joke.
Slap fight after the final whistle again.....and he had Hajlamarsisshission on the ice...but has to go hug Seabrook.
He got Trent Edwards'd by Lindy. So much promise but solid regression over the last few years.
That's why I went with "the dude who messed up Pominville."
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Another great response to one of our players getting blasted. This team is a joke. Again.
The disease has spread to Myers, who watched the crime and did nothing.
Then, this really burns me up... in the scrum after the final horn, Vanek pairs up with the dude who messed up Pominville -- and does nothing. There was a chance right there to at the very least grab the guy by the collar and say something.
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I should read the context before making a Viking joke. And an Asian joke. Sorry.
Nice elbow to Roy's head....
And a Super Bowl 25 joke?
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That was quite a save by Lalime with the blocker with a little over a minute left on Sharp.
You can't tell me the atmosphere in that building isn't spurring the Sabres on. One of the best buildings in the league. They really have to do something about HSBC Arena.
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Lindey's pranks? Omg! That was terrible.
And we're going to hear about these all season! Once, Lindy farted and blamed Hannu Virta.
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I really think he has more skill than he plays with right now. He is surprisingly fast. I wish he would concentrate more on chasing the play instead of chasing down a borderline late hit that means nothing.
Agreed. So why has Kaleta become this type of player? Does Lindy really have to sacrifice some kid's brain to try and prove he has a set of balls -- when he clearly had them lopped off at the vet a number of years ago?
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Big ice time winners in the third were McCormick, Niedermayer, Grier, Rivet and Hecht. Quite an endorsement of the go-to Core, when you're down 2-0 and 2-1, eh?
Losers were Connolly, Gaustad and Kaleta.
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So... wouldn't a quick look at the ice time and lines and d-pairings in the third indicate how Lindy will approach the first period tonight?
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Did this really happen?
By the way: 40 years ago, Butch Deadmarsh, who was to play 137 NHL games with the Sabres, Atlanta and Kansas City, was in the lineup for that first game in Buffalo. Why do I mention him now? Because when he was introduced at the pregame ceremony, the public-address announcer called him Dutch Bedmarsh.
You talk about organizations winning and losing. The Sabres have a PA guy who not only can't get his tongue out of the way on a routine basis, but apparently he's dyslexic too. How does someone like that get a public address announcing job? I have nothing against Jay Moran, stutterers or dyslexics, but come on.
Maybe he and LQ share that condo in Dublin.
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That is very true. This team carries none of the qualities Buffalo sports fans are drawn to.
Something is really bugging me about last night. Coming out you have the first captain of the Sabres -- and the coach who led them to their first final -- the son of the franchise's founder, a legend and HHOFer in Henri Richard, hell, the team owner, Rick Jeanneret and Rick Effin Azar were even down there, re-enacting the first faceoff at home in franchise history ... and the Sabres are slumped on the bench, leaning over the boards, milling around, chatting, laughing. The disrespect was brazen.
Wonder what the Canadien players did during the team's 100th anniversary ceremony.
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The Office is just unwatchable this season. Yet I watch.
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Just wasted 30 minutes of my life watching one of the most stupid television shows ever, Tosh.0.
Actually, I shouldn't complain. It was also one of the funniest and sharply written shows I've seen in a long time. Talk about your guilty pleasures.
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Eleven's gone.
Hasn't posted since I bettered his avatar by 50-some minutes.
So I changed my avatar to something less offensive.
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I had to laugh at this quote from Burns today.
“Here we go again. They are trying to kill me before I am dead…I’m not dead, far [expletive] from it. They’ve had me dead since June. Tell them I’m alive. Set them straight.”
Larry Linville, on the other hand...
GAME DISCUSSION THREAD
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They need to turn up the mics!