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Were there "layers of people" around the Pegulas when they personally took MB on a tour?
Clearly not.
This is a non issue that the News loves to bring up now and again.
Was it an issue for Babcock? Don't you think he might have asked, "Anywho, why did LaFontaine leave?" Mike would want to know if his new boss, Murray, was going to be around long-term, or if the chaos might repeat itself. The conventional wisdom (take that for what it's worth) was that LaFontaine butted heads with some of Pegula's braintrust, if not TPegs himself, and lost the power struggle.
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He is mentioned constantantly and especially in the coaching threads.
I have never seen so much discussion and stuff taken as truth than the past few months (murray pouting over not getting mcdavid, murray complaining about Babcock, this crap). When sources are continuously wrong and there is evidence after evidence that the news is manipulating crap in relation to murray and the sabres front office, they have no credibility. Just like if you cry wolf about conspiracy crap regarding the same thing over and over, you lose credibility.
Three of the first four entries are jokes. That's all I need to see. (And that's about the same percentage a bunch of you are batting of late with your posts.)
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If coaching an Original Six team is so important, why was Buffalo in the mix?
"(Because) Terry Pegula is a superstar."
#sabres #leafs
Link?
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Does Murray strike anyone as the type to tolerate superfluous layers of bureaucracy that interferes with his job? One would think that the fact he reports directly to Pegula would be enough to put that to rest.
But there always has to be a bad guy.
Always has to be a conspiracy.
Always has to be a reason to be disappointed.
I've decided not to let the tinfoil crowd ruin my enjoyment. I think, like the Sullsys and Harringtons of the world, their real motivation is to generate clicks and nothing more. To be contrarian just for contrarian's sake. Ultimately, it adds little.
GO SABRES!!!
Well, I think when you had the splash Terry made in 2011, the subsequent disappointment and now you're sitting here four years later after two of the worst seasons in NHL history — no one would have believed it on 2/22/11 — there is reason for skepticism and questioning.
Are you saying my motivation is to generate clicks? Why would I care about clicks? I'm not even sure I know what a click is. SDS makes no money off this site, or if he does, he goes right back into it. If I cared about monetizing my opinions, I'd start a blog and make $11 a month or something. I was part of a site that had over 10,000 unique visitors a day during the team's most recent heyday, and that site also did not seek to make a penny. It's purely about being a fan, getting to express opinions and giving other fans the chance to.
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So he was the PSU arena manager, a fundraiser and head of the fan club. Yep. Solid credentials to move into a significant role with an NHL team. LOL
Oh...and coach of the PSU club hockey team! LOL
Another tinfoil contrarian! This is the heart of it. Does Terry hire the best people to run his hockey team? Or does he look to friends and "cronies"? Benson to Black to Sawyer to Patrick to Battista, the answer is right there for anyone to see. (Patrick was seemingly a good addition, I'll give him that; of course we don't know what he does, really.) Murray really is the firewall. Like others, I hope and trust he's the one really running the show.
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Towit:
Last March, Fasching’s draft rights were traded from the Los Angeles Kings to the Buffalo Sabres, a young organization in a rebuilding phase. Joe Battista, Sabres vice president of hockey-related business, told the Star Tribune he thought Fasching would have a good opportunity to make the jump into the organization after his sophomore year, but added that another year with the Gophers would likely benefit Fasching.
“We see tremendous upside with him,” Battista said earlier this year. “He’s going to be a net presence and be a guy playing on the power play.”
http://www.startribune.com/fasching-confirms-he-ll-return-for-another-year/303110971/
This is probably the kind of thing that could irk some people in the hockey department.
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What is the context of the first quote?
Murray couldn't understand why someone had asked Babcock if he lied to the Sabres. He said there's no smoking gun and he's not into conspiracies.
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Sound like anyone we know? Doesn't sound like Babcock objects to layers of people -- provided, I guess, those layers are ones he likes or respects.
Or provided he's one of the layer. Was it going to be Pegula-Patrick-Battista-Murray-Babcock in Buffalo? Given Babcock's elite status and apparently healthy ego, how could he be "just the coach"? Maybe the Sabres balked at giving him too much power. Of course Murray denies it was ever an issue.
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There ya go, Ghost. So he oversees Murray?
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Thing is, even if there weren't a Battista or a Benson or a Sawyer (he's out, actually - right?) in/around the Sabres' FO, I still think Babcock would've chosen TOR.
Jebus, I forgot about Benson. How could I? Sawyer is out? I hadn't heard that. Just looked at sabres.com and Sawyer's name is not listed. Battista, FWIW, is VP of Hockey Administration and not VP of Hockey-Related Businesses, which was his original title to start the 2013-14 season.
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It means bozo Harrington reads this board and sees a lot of posters with the same level of insight into the Sabres' inner operations as he has (i.e. zero) decrying Battista.
Great theory, except Battista has barely been mentioned around these parts for a long time.
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The "chatter" that I've heard from my source is that GMTM was a bit put off by Babcock's extreme arrogance during the negotiation process. It's probably worth about the same as Harrington's NHL chatter regarding Battista...not much.
Maybe. He does seem full of himself. I did give an eye roll to this quote:
“Are they allowed to be disappointed? Yep,” Babcock said. “When the sun got up today, they’ll get on with it."
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Do I have gonorrhea?
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RING RING
Tim Murray "Yea?"
Babcock "Hi Tim this is Mike Babcock calling you back"
Tim Murray "Yea?"
Babcock "Well Tim I wanted to call and say that Toronto is willing to offer me more years and money. Would you beat it?"
Tim Murray "..."
Babcock "Hello, Tim? Would you be willing to up your offer?"
Tim Murray "So you took our offer to Toronto and they beat it?"
Babcock "Well no I wouldn't word it like that"
Tim Murray "You wouldn't but I did. Enjoy Toronto. Murray out."
That seems to be so far out of the realm of what happened, it's not funny. You're calling Murray a liar, apparently on his own behalf. #zfgnarrative
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Babcock said his relationship with Murray is strong, dating to their days in Anaheim, and a source familiar with the negotiations agreed, saying Babcock’s issue was far more with the layers of people in the front office and around Terry Pegula.
A lot of the chatter is about Joe Battista, the team’s vice president of hockey-related business. He continues to be talked about in NHL circles as a growing player of influence within the hockey operation when he should be concentrating solely on HarborCenter activities. Battista, remember, has no prior NHL experience and came on board as a close confidante of Pegula in 2013 after a 26-year run at Penn State.
http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/05/21/babcock-simply-wanted-toronto-over-any-other/
Attention Harrington-haters. Spare me. Let's discuss the front office structure of the Sabres and whether it could have posed a problem for Babcock. Of course GMTM would have us believe Babcock had no interest in anything other than coaching the team. What does Battista do? Craig Patrick? Ken Sawyer? Is Ted Black in on hockey decisions? Does Kim Pegula consult an astrologist? Did she have a bunion on Mother's Day, causing a slight hitch in her giddyup that turned off MB? What happened with LaLa anyway?
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I can understand why it might rub some people the wrong way, and he's never going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I'd take his communication style over Darcy's any day.
Did Murray's thinly veiled jab at Nolan on WGR today move the needle for you?
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Here's a good one. Did Murray give Nolan a huge shot when he said he expects the coaching candidates to come in prepared, with sophisticated plans, and not just be old school and say, "We're going to dur work hard and forecheck dur." ?
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Carlyle's teams suck at puck possession. Those teams miraculously improve after he gets fired. Seeing as this has happened twice, I feel comfortable blaming him for that. If you want to win consistently in today's NHL, you can't have a coach who can't coach possession.
Only twice? That's an incredibly small sample size.
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It'll be interesting to see how Schopp and the Bulldog fill the next three hours when everything they speculated about the past 72 hours didn't happen, per GMTM.
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I guess I'm not getting the WGR reference. Was it a dig?
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Quick aside: I know why Sabres and Tim Murray are mad at media & want to avoid it, but today's interview with WGR shows whey they shouldn't
What the hell does that mean?
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Good interview with Murray on WGR. I guess that puts some things in their places...unless you don't believe him. :w00t:
He sounds believable. But of course an organization in the Sabres' position would have every reason to play nice. The truth is almost certainly somewhere in the middle.
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GMTM totally shoots down the idea that control was ever an issue with Babcock. "He never asked for anything."
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"People are looking for a smoking gun that doesn't exist."
—Tim Murray
There you have it. There's nothing to see here, and never was.
Good night, SabreSpace.
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I hear Harrington decided to show up at the presser and decided to make an ass out of himself again.
Details? Good for Mike.
The 'layers of people' around TP — THEY'RE PEOPLE! TELL THEM! — also: fookin' Battista
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He had me going. Joe is certainly a looker, but "hot piece of trim." That's when I knew something was up.