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GMTM totally shoots down the idea that control was ever an issue with Babcock. "He never asked for anything."
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"People are looking for a smoking gun that doesn't exist."
—Tim Murray
There you have it. There's nothing to see here, and never was.
Good night, SabreSpace.
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I hear Harrington decided to show up at the presser and decided to make an ass out of himself again.
Details? Good for Mike.
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The "family" angle is PR 101 and most of the time holds little-to-no weight in my experience.
Whenever anyone in my profession makes a move it is because of "family"... whenever they turn down an offer it is because of "family"... whenever anyone retires it is to spend more time with "family."
Politically, "family" is a universally accepted out for just about any uncomfortable situation. The truth is often something very different.
Nice bulge.
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Because ... because Babcock hadn't said things to Shanahan that gave Shanahan a warm fuzzy feeling in his tum-tum and made him clap his hands together very excited like and say "Zoowee, Mama - Coach Mike is going to coach our team!"
The warm fuzzy feeling in his tum-tum turned out to be the Fiery Habañero Doritos Battista got him.
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Anywho... what emerged about how Shanny and Babcock are going to work together. Control. yada yada yada
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Strong opinions are fine, although the posters thereof should not be surprised when they elicit strong responses. Insults and an obnoxious tone are not fine.
As in " filled diatribe"?
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I really hope the leafs suck and then get screwed at the draft lottery in 2016
Screwed how? You mean finishing last and then having Edmonton win the lottery again?
If they're doing this, they're going to need a first class GM with unquestioned authority over player acquisition and development.
Good luck finding that with the position being sandwiched between Shanahan and Babcock.
Not sure why you'd need a third man in. Hire guys under Shanny and to do the more menial tasks of a GM, contracts, scouting, cap and the like.
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Oh, PA please tell me you want to play this game. Please. Clearly the narrative comment hit... and is still hitting.
Seriously, it's comical but also maddening that every new poster who doesn't tow the party line or shows any kind of personality or spunk has to be pounced upon. It's almost reflexive. It always brings out a moderator or even SDS. It's bizarre. We want new posters, right? eman has strong opinions, which is great. There's no trolling going on.
Is this a message board or eighth grade homeroom when the new kid walks in mid-year?
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Oh, PA please tell me you want to play this game. Please. Clearly the narrative comment hit... and is still hitting.
Yeah, it really stings the 8,387th time in your life a skeeter bites ya.
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YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT THE NHL MAKES ZERO MONEY OFF OF MONTREAL OR TORONTO OR THAT THAT MONEY IS NEGLIGIBLE? REALLY? TELL IT TO THE HABS AND LEAFS WHO ARE SICK OF PROPPING UP FAILED ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE COYOTES, PANTHERS AND HURRICANES. IT IS A TOPIC EVERY YEAR. I AM GLAD PEOPLE ARE EDUCATING ME ON THE NCAA STATUS THING AS SPORTSCENTRE DIDN'T ANSWER THAT WHAT IF? I HAD MY CONCERNS. NOT SURE WHAT GOALIES ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE AGENTS THIS OFF SEASON. I MISS NEUVIRTH AND ENROTH. I THOUGHT THEY COULD ACTUALLY WORK OUT HERE. I WILL STATE THIS HERE AND NOW. I DO BELIEVE MCDAVID WILL BE BETTER THEN EICHEL (AND HE DOES HAVE WAY MORE TALENT TO PLAY WITH IN EDMONTON THEN IN BUFFALO AND A GOOD COACH NOW) HE WILL PUT UP MORE POINTS THEN EICHEL BUT AGAIN, WE SHALL SEE IF THIS TRUE BUT I AM EXPECTING THAT. AS FOR OVERACHIEVING GOALTENDING, ISN'T THAT WHY ARTURS IRBE IS HERE????? DO CAROLINA, FLORIDA AND ARIZONA GAMES REALLY RAKE IN THE REVENUE TV WISE FOR THE LEAGUE? I MEAN, IF PEOPLE CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO GO THERE, ARE THEY BOTHERED TO WATCH ON TV? EVEN IF THEIR OPPOSITION IS CHICAGO, BOSTON OR NEW YORK? AS FOR TED BEING FIRED BECAUSE OF RESULTS. WHAT OTHER COACH DO YOU KNOW OF THAT HAD HIS STARTING LINEUP SOLD OUT FROM UNDER HIM AND WAS THEN EXPECTED TO 'GET RESULTS"? IT'S LIKE SUPPLYING A HOT DOG VENDOR WITH HAMBURGS THEN SHUTTING HIM DOWN BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GENERATE HOT DOG SALES.
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JFC, Adam. Awful.
Only thing that would be worse (WAY worse): If someone from the Sabres planted that idea/question with him.
What's the problem? Isn't that what we all want to know?
My favorite part of your ###### filled diatribe is this line.
Do we really need this? eman is maintaing a sense of respect even while being attacked, including by the site owner.
It's almost like you're trolling for a reaction. Guess you got me this time. Nice.
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what - no forecast that the existing body here will push him out of here like a splinter?
I considered that. I almost went with "the nail that sticks up get pounded down."
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An old acquaintance posted a prom pic of me and an ex from 25 years ago. The pic is fine. It just really hit me hard. I've spent 20+ years trying to forget her. She was my first everything. I was emotionally immature, ###### things all up and have spent more days than I care to thinking of what could have been. After the pic was posted, I stayed up most of the night thinking about it.
After a couple days of reflection, I realize what bothered me the most. It wasn't the thoughts of her that bothered me. It was the thoughts of me or more to the point, where I was in life and where I was headed. I was young, handsome, intelligent on my way to college with endless potential for life.
Then I spent the next decade boozing and smoking my face off. Ruining my body and stalling any chance I had at maintaining the trajectory I was supposed to be on. I mean, I'm in a decent place now but it took working 15 years from the bottom up in a factory. I have a beautiful, healthy baby and a wife who loves me. Just wondering what could have been...
What nfreeman said. WTF are you complaining about?! What could have been... it happened.
It's a good thing you started doing the opposite.
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solid stuff - you're on a roll, sir.
It's a cinnamon roll. I'm trying to warm it up.
Do not judge me!
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Godspeed, eman. There is this, though, When they start picking on your carriage returns, and the snark replies pick up, you might just have them on the run. Be prepared to be called a troll, or to be told you have a narrative, any moment now.
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I'm thinking of Pegula's comment at the LaFontaine hiring presser, something about how the Sabres don't want anyone to come into the organization and think of himself as an "emperor." See also: there's no monopoly on hockey IQ. And: flat management structure. I always saw Babcock as somewhat of a threat to the front office culture. In the end, we just don't know what Babcock wanted, but I think we'll get some clues after the presser in Toronto.
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It's not. It's a radio host in Boston. Brady is his last name and fan 590 is his radio station.
Somehow it all works.
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Hamilton's as solid a sports radio guy as there is in this market, but I don't hold him to that standard.
Hes getting paid though.
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No. Their resumes aren't particularly impressive and I think most have had enough of the inner circle getting jobs in Buffalo.
Exactly. It gets hard to stomach mention of any former Sabre. What is Randy Moller doing these days?
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Like I said last night, in the end it came down to control. With no GM in place Babcock had more leverage with Toronto than Buffalo. He now gets more say, and whoever GM Shanny brings in will have no choice but to accept those terms.
Murray wasn't going to give Babs that kinda control.
The control angle seemed to fall by the wayside yesterday with early reports about eight million dollars a year. It had to be about money, and not control. Well it turns out he's ending up with very similar money to what Buffalo was offering. It wasn't about getting more money in Toronto, but was it about getting more money in Toronto than he would have without the Buffalo offer?
Schopp and the Bulldog viciously shot down anyone suggesting Murray was at fault: "The Sabres thought they had a deal with Babcock, so he must have been happy with promises of control." That's some very faulty logic. Even if Babcock agreed in principle, maybe what the Leafs offered instead of more money was more control, the exact kind of control, Babcock sought.
Anyway, where's the inside story? I mean, we're going to find out exactly what happened, right? I've searched the Internet this morning. Nothing. It'll be fun. We can debate this forever, alongside the pantheon of mysterious what ifs in Sabres history. Will the Sabres leak something? Will it be accurate or merely saving-face stuff? I don't think you'll hear anything from Babcock's side. Why would he?
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True but, using "being played" as motivation or revenge is often part of business too. It will be interesting to see what TPegs might have in store for the leaves because of this perceived slight. Revenge and gotcha is certainly part of politics...
Not exactly revenge, but how about paying Disco Dan one dollar more than what Babdick got?
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Sources indicate the #MapleLeafs were in talks w/ Guy Boucher this am to make him next head coach. In the meantime, Babcock contacted Leafs.
A #Leafs executive left the meeting w/ Boucher. Worked out a deal w/ Babcock. Boucher came close to becomming head coach. A matter of hours.
This is so intriguing. Would love to know the timeline of it all. Sabres thought they had a deal. Babcock contacts Leafs. Leafs are caught by surprise? What in the world happened overnight?
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I want to see the case made for Julien where my skin doesn't crawl and/or I don't want to vomit after reading it.
I never took you for a baldist!
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He sounds believable. But of course an organization in the Sabres' position would have every reason to play nice. The truth is almost certainly somewhere in the middle.