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Terry's a big boy in the business world. He's probably done some version of what Babcock may have done. What did Babcock do wrong? I'm hearing words like "shady" from Bulldog. Is it really shady?
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Maybe they said "You want to uproot us when we could easily stay here? Fine, but if Toronto is offering the same $$ as Buffalo, it's gotta be Toronto."
A minor point: the kids are all adults. Well, they're at least 18, anyway.
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A masterclass in negotiating by Team Babcock! He visits Buffalo with an owner willing to spend big knowing that he never intends to sign with them. He dangles for a few days to stir up a bidding war between Buffalo and possible suitors. A desperate Toronto takes the bait and outbids the Sabres for his services. Team Babcock just USED the Sabres brilliantly. At some point the Sabres smelled a rat and pulled their offer when they realized that they had been used as a tool to lever more money from Toronto. Great strategy. My guess is his wife and kids said NFW we're going to Buffalo!!!
When was the offer pulled? Again, the reporting is that Babcock notified them he was out.
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I don't doubt this for a second, especially in light of Wawrow's scoop yesterday. The Sabres wouldn't have leaked that otherwise. And I'm convinced more than ever that once Pegula learned that Toronto had re-entered the picture, he wasn't gonna be played and he pulled the offer. I think that reflects well on him, too. It's all well and good that Babcock found the job of his dreams and his family is OK with it, etc, but I don't think this reflects well on him at all. If he doesn't produce in Toronto, he may well have signed his last coaching contract for a long time.
GO SABRES!!!
Except the reports are that Babcock notified the Sabres at 11:35 a.m. or something that they were out.
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So, no Richards?
No Ekblad.
No McDavid.
No Babcock.
So Buffalo.
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Poor choice of words. "Used" is apt, as a theory.
Friedman tweeted that the deal involves Shanahan and Babcock, together, having final say on all personnel matters.
And the two old pals in Buffalo couldn't have made that work?
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In what way were they screwed? Schopp being Schopp.
So that's their angle? Great.
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'We'll never know what happened on July 1.'
'This happened on July 1.'
'Uh, that didn't happen on July 1.'
'Yeah, but it should have.'
:lol:
PS - the Drury offer sat on TG's desk, not LQ's. And he did EVENTUALLY agree to sign it; but well after Drury'd had enough.
And my point is proved. There won't ever be agreement on this, and there won't ever be agreement on what happened with Babcock. We're just the fans and customers, who create all the wealth these guys are scrambling for — we don't deserve to know.
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Babs will get 8 years $50M from Toronto. If that's the case, why didn't he sign with Buffalo?
Hmmm...
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you should know, you have a narrative in 9 out of 10 posts
Two in a row! Keep going.
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On July 1 Darcy Regier wanted to extend Chris Drury. Sabres Brass (Quinn) didn't want to commit that cash to Drury so they basically told Darcy no. Darcy accepted that and Drury and Briere both left. How many times do we have to discuss it?
Nice narrative.
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Not by me. I have watched time and time again UFA come to Buffalo and heard countless players say how amazing the area is. The credibility thing is a straw man argument used on this board a ###### ton.
They have to say that. What are they going to say, it sucks? Thomas Vanek said how much he loved Long Island.
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Well I for one think that Babcock is a very good coach. I also think that the difference between Babcock and the other candidates is minimal. I am laughing at you freaking out before we know any of the facts or what happened. You don't know the dollar amounts, you don't know if Babcock was playing us, you don't know how much input he wanted, you don't know if he actually wanted to coach Buffalo. So I am laughing at your outrage at a situation none of us really understand.
We'll never understand it. What happened on July 1, 2007? Why did LaLa leave? Who shot JFK?
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Paul Hamilton is mad at Babcock now....
Looks like he played the Sabres for more money and Pegula said "See ya"
The flagship station kicks into high gear! Would love to be a fly on the wall during Schopp & The Bulldog's pre-show meeting.
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Very.....shortsighted (and melodramatic to boot)
Yeah, this is all on Timmy
Meh, maybe not my finest hour. We'll see what shakes out. It was written out of disappointment. How many times can we finish second? It's uncanny.
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Even though Babcock said he doesn't want to be a GM I bet anything that with Shanny in Toronto they gave Babcock a shot at GM?coach position and he took it.
So four million a year to do each job? Makes sense.
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We didn't get . So you're mad at me. Fine. If it makes you feel better.
I suggest that everyone, myself included, wait for some solid information, if any is to come, which I doubt.
Passions are high.
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In the last 13 months, the #leafs have gutted an entire front office, NHL/AHL coaching staffs, scouting department. Now they build.
Wonder what they build? An outhouse to store all their s#!t in?
Yeah, what they're doing is unconscionable! It'll never work!
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Doesn't move the needle for me--once you triple a coach's salary, quadrupling is just like whatever. I wouldn't have blinked at 10.
Exactly. Money wasn't the issue. People are grasping.
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Sabres aren't willing to pay him $8 mill a year.
Why not?
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Well Disco Dan it is. Either him or Richardson
Dan also won a Cup. Richardson can be Nolan II.
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You're staring at coffee grounds, though.
No matter now many actual legit reasons Babcock will give to explain his decision, you'll be convinced it's because Tim Murray lacks the proper personality.
GO SABRES!!!
I'll listen, but I don't expect the Sabres or Babcock would ever tell tales out of school. Bottom line, Murray had Babcock actually negotiating a contract; money wasn't an object; how they would work together was widely reported as what they were hung up on; Babcock goes to Toronto.
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Welp.
At least Harrington will get his presser now. Right? Or nah?
I bet against the presser.
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And yet you're perfectly comfortable giving GMTM the middle finger seconds after the news broke.
We all have to read the tea leaves.
All about the Babwatch -- Sabres out
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