PASabreFan
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I don't understand what on ice performance has to do with ticket prices.
I know, right? What performance controversy? Who's fracking? What's fracking?
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Then don't throw a temper tantrum when someone calls you on it.
Why should someone ever be "called" on their opinion? I get it. If you disagree, it's a narrative or agenda. Never mind that the biggest narrative on this board since February 2011 has been what a great owner the guy is. It started on Day One when multiple Cups were in our very near future. People make things up out of thin air. Terry will spend freely again when the time comes. Babcock will swoon when he meets the Pegulas, they are so wonderful and charming. I have watched it all for years and not told anyone to shut up or accused them of trolling. It's about respecting other opinions.
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I don't know, I think those words hammered home his point appropriately. It was a very blunt way of letting people know that this garbage doesn't need to flood every single thread.
I think it needs to, so I'll continue doing it at every opportunity, especially when someone blames another owner for doing something Terry has done.
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According to this link, the Leafs already have the highest (for 2013-14) ticket prices in the league. So if the Sabres raise the ticket prices enough, and then give the fans a break one year, are you going to complement the Sabres for giving back to their faithful?
http://www.hookedonhockeymagazine.com/average-nhl-ticket-prices-2013-2014-season/
No. It wasn't a financial break. It wasn't about the money. It was a gesture or as the exec said, a "hug." IMHO a nice touch. Not ham-handed in the least.
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It sounds nothing like Terry. It sounds like the opposite of Terry. And it's definitely not going to be what Babcock believes because Babcock isn't delusional.
But if someone thinks Katz is a better owner than Pegula I'm not sure what to say about that.
I can't believe you are suggesting Katz killed all those poor young girls.
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"So through the eyes of a nine-year-old, papa is lucky. Well, papa is lucky. But for two huge reasons. Number one, you see, this is the only job I ever wanted. And number two, THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE I EVER WANTED TO BE!"
Gives me chills. The perfect sentiment, perfectly delivered.
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Chara's Bride
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I blame the ice for obscuring Umberger's number!
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This is gold. SDS has found his calling.
Didn't we do this once before?
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I remember hearing a story about a call like that -- from RJ himself (in an interview). As memory serves, he got a memo from one of the Knox brothers asking him to keep things more family-friendly. I recall him dating it to his very early years, though.
Maybe he had used the line before and let it slip out later on. This was definitely 82 or 83. ... aha! I knew it was out west, so I looked at the Winnipeg Jets' 82-83 roster. Craig Levie! Whew.
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Ruffrider
I Win Again Off
These are good.
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Craig Laughlin? Craig Ludwig?
Could be Laughlin. I have it on a cassette tape and will try to listen to it later. Or was it on one of the RJ compilations they put out?
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Small market and an owner who threatened to move the team unless he got a new arena -- who also has to keep paying a bunch of losers he just fired. Doesn't sound like a guy who wants to pay a coach 2x what the next-highest-paid coach is making.
Sounds like Terry, except Terry hasn't had the chance to put the squeeze on the taxpayers yet for a new downtown stadium.
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What's missing from both the ace TBN reporting and PA/Gorby's posts is any sense of context. How much have the Sabres' prices risen around the NHL during the 5-year period they cite? Where do the Sabres' ticket prices rank after this increase relative to the rest of the NHL (including the Leafs, which PA/Gorby seems to think is some kind of magnanimous community-minded organzation)? What about expenses? How much have payroll and other costs increased during that period?
Of course, if you can't get past fear and loathing of the sinister billionaire, you're not going to take the time to understand what's really going on. You might even take things as far as speculating that he might continue the Bills-in-Toronto series, and then claim you never did so.
Do you need glasses? In both cases, I tried to give Terry the benefit of the doubt, in the ticket case using his own words. If it were up to him (and it is, but he's trusting his business people), in my opinion, ticket prices wouldn't have gone up that first year and probably not this year either. And I clearly stated I thought Terry did not want to extend the Toronto series. What I speculated was that the business side of the Bills might try and convince him otherwise.
You're being an idiot. And an awful moderator. You accused me of trolling (personal attack) and now you're taking a thread off the rails while yourself being a troll. Nice roll you're on, partner.
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My entry will be Seymour Hockey.
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Absolutely. But if Babcock comes to Buffalo it will not be because of Murray, it will because of Pegula.
It is Pegula who ordered the tank, creating the current situation here.
It is Pegula who will set the hierarchy between Murray and his coach.
And it is Pegula who will be defining the work environment, selling the organization, and making Babcock the offer he can't refuse.
I think it just moved.
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"It's a terrible, terrible period for performance for the team," said Hopkinson [chief commercial officer for Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment]. "And we need to be make sure we're hugging our customer right now."
The franchise has not raised ticket prices for next season.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-fans-need-hug-says-mlse-exec-1.3047449
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If season ticket holders are willing to pay it, why shouldn't they?
Well, there is that. Terry said early on he didn't want to come into town as this multibillionaire and raise ticket prices. I think the business side won that argument for the reason you cite. The bean counters saw that demand was high and that tickets were relatively underpriced. Terry might have said what he said about drilling a new well if he wanted to make money, but others were always going to run it like a business on his behalf. The Blacks and Sawyers of the world don't do it any other way.
Some people like X. will say the Sabres have an obligation to the industry and to the players to grow revenue. It's unwritten; it's certainly not in the CBA. And it's fair to say of course revenues have to go up. Everything goes up, everywhere, all the time.
Others will say the Sabres are forced to raise prices in order to qualify for revenue sharing. That's not true. You qualify for revenue sharing based on a formula. Once you receive revenue sharing, if you don't reach 75% of the average league gate revenue, certain things kick in. They're not as punishing as in the old CBA. For example, you have to submit a three-year plan for increasing your revenue to the Revenue Sharing Oversight Committee. But the idea is for the team to be helped, not be punished. Teams can even get grants from the Industry Growth Fund. So it's not end of times if a team falls short of that 75% target. You don't lose your revenue sharing.
Bottom line for me — and, again, it's based on a layman's reading of the CBA; if I'm wrong please tell me how I'm wrong and please cite the CBA — is that Sabres didn't have to raise ticket prices again after such a historically bad season. They didn't have to, but they did. Like you said, why wouldn't they? The right thing to do, the one-time symbolic gesture, is the last thing on these people's minds. Ham-handed as usual.
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Since Terry Pegula purchased the Sabres in 2011, prices have risen 27.3 percent. Tickets in 300 Level IV have gone from $22 to $28, while 200 Level Club seats have jumped from $88 to $112.
http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/04/30/sabres-raise-prices-on-season-tickets/
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He is singlehandedly responsible for me pronouncing that word incorrectly for my entire life.
See also: he's bean hotter than a firecracker.
There are also the odd rarities "betwixt and between" and "from whence it came."
I honestly believe a lot of Rick comes from Danny Gallivan.
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This is subtle, but I always like when Rick says the Canadian a-GAIN. Zhitnik to Smehlik, back to Zhitnik a-GAIN. I think he lets it slip.
Ohhhh... Zhitnik and Smehlik have their own game going!
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No interviews have taken place yet. And the search, being led by general manager Tim Murray, isn't expected to speed up until at least next week, when Sabres owner Terry Pegula can turn his attention away from the NFL draft, one of the people said.
:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
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Homework assignment: how much control of/influence over personnel moves does Babcock have in Detroit? The no-brainer is that the coach has to have some. You think Lindy didn't talk to Darcy about such things? There's no separation of church and state, although there was with Murray and Nolan, which is the worrisome thing here.
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"Perreault went around Craig Laffy, who's still looking for his jock strap." Pretty racy for circa 1982! (Googled Craig Laffy and got nothing.)
And anytime he says, "The game is over!" Note the exclamation point.
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