PASabreFan
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'We'll never know what happened on July 1.'
'This happened on July 1.'
'Uh, that didn't happen on July 1.'
'Yeah, but it should have.'
:lol:
PS - the Drury offer sat on TG's desk, not LQ's. And he did EVENTUALLY agree to sign it; but well after Drury'd had enough.
And my point is proved. There won't ever be agreement on this, and there won't ever be agreement on what happened with Babcock. We're just the fans and customers, who create all the wealth these guys are scrambling for — we don't deserve to know.
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Babs will get 8 years $50M from Toronto. If that's the case, why didn't he sign with Buffalo?
Hmmm...
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you should know, you have a narrative in 9 out of 10 posts
Two in a row! Keep going.
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On July 1 Darcy Regier wanted to extend Chris Drury. Sabres Brass (Quinn) didn't want to commit that cash to Drury so they basically told Darcy no. Darcy accepted that and Drury and Briere both left. How many times do we have to discuss it?
Nice narrative.
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Not by me. I have watched time and time again UFA come to Buffalo and heard countless players say how amazing the area is. The credibility thing is a straw man argument used on this board a ###### ton.
They have to say that. What are they going to say, it sucks? Thomas Vanek said how much he loved Long Island.
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Well I for one think that Babcock is a very good coach. I also think that the difference between Babcock and the other candidates is minimal. I am laughing at you freaking out before we know any of the facts or what happened. You don't know the dollar amounts, you don't know if Babcock was playing us, you don't know how much input he wanted, you don't know if he actually wanted to coach Buffalo. So I am laughing at your outrage at a situation none of us really understand.
We'll never understand it. What happened on July 1, 2007? Why did LaLa leave? Who shot JFK?
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Paul Hamilton is mad at Babcock now....
Looks like he played the Sabres for more money and Pegula said "See ya"
The flagship station kicks into high gear! Would love to be a fly on the wall during Schopp & The Bulldog's pre-show meeting.
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Very.....shortsighted (and melodramatic to boot)
Yeah, this is all on Timmy
Meh, maybe not my finest hour. We'll see what shakes out. It was written out of disappointment. How many times can we finish second? It's uncanny.
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Even though Babcock said he doesn't want to be a GM I bet anything that with Shanny in Toronto they gave Babcock a shot at GM?coach position and he took it.
So four million a year to do each job? Makes sense.
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We didn't get . So you're mad at me. Fine. If it makes you feel better.
I suggest that everyone, myself included, wait for some solid information, if any is to come, which I doubt.
Passions are high.
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In the last 13 months, the #leafs have gutted an entire front office, NHL/AHL coaching staffs, scouting department. Now they build.
Wonder what they build? An outhouse to store all their s#!t in?
Yeah, what they're doing is unconscionable! It'll never work!
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Doesn't move the needle for me--once you triple a coach's salary, quadrupling is just like whatever. I wouldn't have blinked at 10.
Exactly. Money wasn't the issue. People are grasping.
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Sabres aren't willing to pay him $8 mill a year.
Why not?
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Well Disco Dan it is. Either him or Richardson
Dan also won a Cup. Richardson can be Nolan II.
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You're staring at coffee grounds, though.
No matter now many actual legit reasons Babcock will give to explain his decision, you'll be convinced it's because Tim Murray lacks the proper personality.
GO SABRES!!!
I'll listen, but I don't expect the Sabres or Babcock would ever tell tales out of school. Bottom line, Murray had Babcock actually negotiating a contract; money wasn't an object; how they would work together was widely reported as what they were hung up on; Babcock goes to Toronto.
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Welp.
At least Harrington will get his presser now. Right? Or nah?
I bet against the presser.
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And yet you're perfectly comfortable giving GMTM the middle finger seconds after the news broke.
We all have to read the tea leaves.
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I will be interested to hear what the deal-breaker(s)/-maker(s) was/were.
We won't hear, not with any authority. Another one we'll be arguing about for years, each with our own perceived facts.
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Maybe the K-9 scenario came to pass. Pegula just said I'm not getting dicked around by .
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Out. C'est la vie.
Who is next?
That's it?
No need to do an autopsy as to why he wouldn't come?
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Nice job, Tim. Hope his ass gets fired.
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So quiet on the "sources tell me" front. No one wants to talk to the AP? This probably means things are close. For the overly suspicious, it could also mean Babcock and his agent, if he has one, are talking directly to other parties now instead of communicating through the media.
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Your narrative, PA. I just don't think things need to rise to the same level of doubt as you do.
I don't believe for a second that Nolan had ZERO input on player personnel. I don't think he always got his way, though, either. And I believe Nolan was resentful because of that. Indeed, I think Nolan was downright obstinate. I also think Murray had every reason to question Nolan's ability as a coach which caused him to lose confidence in Nolan's ability, including his ability to evaluate personnel.
Lastly, I think you're over thinking Babcock's and Murray's discussion about levels of control over player personnel. I don't see Babcock's request for more control as something to question Murray about at this point. It's one thing for Murray to limit Nolan's involvement and quite another to give Babcock more leeway. Babcock has earned that given his success. Nolan, not so much.
GO SABRES!!!
It's not a narrative, but if it is, it's Murray's narrative if anyone's. He detailed how poor the communication was. It's not a figment of my imagination.
I'm not sure I buy the idea that Murray got into the job, figured Nolan was gone soon anyway, so I might as well not even try to have a good working relationship with my coach in my first GM job. Doesn't make sense. It's more a reflection of Murray's personality, IMHO.
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So that's their angle? Great.