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  1. That was my take too. 

     

    I don't think he speaks English very goodly.

    Except that you can do good and develop good.

    I'm wondering if Babcock might want to have more control on the acquiring of players than traditionally a NHL coach has.  Maybe not wear both the GM and coach hats but have significant say in who gets acquired.  I wonder how that might work with Murray.  If Babcock comes in and says I want control over players where's that leave Murray and what do the Pegulas do?

    Terry might have to change his no emperor, hold hands and work together policy. If Babcock wants that, he should get it. If GMTM doesn't like it, back to Ottawa. ZFG. He's done his job. I wouldn't lose Babcock over Murray.

  2. Here's what you said:

     

     

    http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22742-terry-and-kim-pegula-owners-of-the-sabres-and-the-bills/?view=findpost&p=606514

     

    http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22742-terry-and-kim-pegula-owners-of-the-sabres-and-the-bills/?view=findpost&p=606574

     

     

    Again:  are you really going to pretend that this was not speculating that TP would keep the Toronto series going? 

     

    One thing about trolling on a message board:  it leaves a written record.

     

    There are plenty of valid grounds on which you can criticize TP's ownership of the Sabres.  Cheapness isn't one of them.

     

     

     

    Gorby didn't answer this when I asked it -- perhaps when the polite FNG does so the result will be different.

    I trust others here have greater reading comprehension than you do. You need to learn how this trial thing works. You don't introduce evidence that's exculpatory.

  3. Are you arguing that we are just above the cap floor because Terry didn't want to spend so much money? 

    No, but it is what it is, until we see otherwise. I was not in the meetings where the decision was made to go to the absolute bottom for two years in a row. I don't know if there was a financial aspect to that decision. The fair assumption is that there was no financial aspect to it.

  4. It's great that we can have two discussions - one about Terry's drunken spending spree with the Bills and one about the impending closing of the vault. Two boots kicking opposite sides of the head.

     

    As Dori would say in Finding Nemo... "Just keep kicking, just keep kicking..."

    First of all, you're imagining or totally making up the idea that anyone is discussing any "impending" closing of a vault. Anyway, would it necessarily be a bad thing? Darcy did pretty well as a small-market GM under two owners, and could easily have a pair of Cups to show for it. (Yes, he was handicapped by those owners as well, and we don't need to get into the three captains.)

     

    And who's to say the Bills and Sabres situations are mutually exclusive? How much money is the guy expected to spend on Buffalo? Is his vast fortune a community piggy bank?

     

    In the end, I'm guessing he comes down somewhere between Old Sugar Packets and Shore Leave Terry circa 2011.

    That's not true. We were at the floor already before Meszaros was signed.

    OK. Technical foul. Insert another name. GMTM pretty brazenly talked about how easy it would be for him to reach the cap floor.

  5. Except that there is precisely zero indication of spending less than freely, while there are about a thousand actual instances of spending freely.

     

    Remember when you suggested that TP might keep the Bills game in Toronto going, because he might decide to stop spending freely?

    I'm not talking about the past. Hence my "past performances" line. In the present, we have a first-time GM who came pretty cheap I would imagine and a hockey team that had to throw money at freaking Mezsaros to get to the salary floor. Make of it what you will.

     

    And, no, because it never happened.

  6. You certainly may be right that TP's money won't be enough to get Babcock here, but your implication that TP is no longer willing to spend freely is nonsense.

    No implication, just a question. I know questioning threatens a lot of people here. Sorry to go all Harrington. I think it's a fair question. And if you want to be logical, your implication that Terry is willing to spend freely is just as nonsensical, unless you reside in his head.

  7. How do you know Black gets his way on anything? 

     

    Yes TP knows spending does not equal winning, but spending wisely certainly helps.    

     

     

    I hope you are not attempting to say that spending for Babcock would be a bad move? 

    No but I suspect Terry won't go crazy to get him. And remember Terry's "no emperor" statement at the LaFontaine presser along with his many statements about no monopoly on hockey IQ in the front office and the famous flat management structure. Not sure how Babcock (not to mention Babcock making filthy money while GMTM clearly shops at Goodwill) really works here.

  8. I give it a 7 out of 10.  I see where you were going.  

    I kind of mailed it in. I looked for 10 seconds for the actual clip from the movie, but they appeared to be lengthy clips. I just wanted Lincoln (well DDL) giving that money line. So I went with that trailer-type clip, perhaps homemade by someone. I will now self-flagellate. Of course while doing that I'll be thinking about qwksndmonster.

  9. Too bad the NHL doesn't keep scoring chances as an official stat. If scoring chances are not declining, but goaltending is getting better, that's a problem, but a different problem from scoring chances declining. Does that make sense?

     

    Looking at the bigger picture, the NHL just signed a ginormous broadcasting deal in Canada, attendance seems to be strong almost everywhere, the salary cap has gone up... why should the league change anything? We're all hooked on their product, even when it's lousy, and they know it.

     

    The owners could sit down in a room and decide to stop hiring team presidents, GMs and coaches who are dinosaurs, or at least who are not forward-thinking. They could decide to give us a better and different game. Until that happens, and it's not going to happen, the hockey guys are left to their worst devices — and that is to win at any cost, the game be damned.

  10. I don't think this is a case where Terry's money is going to make the difference. Toronto and others could match him if there's some kind of crazy bidding war. Unless Babcock is all about the money — and would that be someone you'd want? — he's going to weigh a lot of factors.

     

    As for Terry being willing to spend freely, does past performance guarantee future results? He sure didn't break the bank for a general manager to lead a critical rebuild. Terry once said he knew he would have to spend some money to get things working the way he wants. Have we reached that point? And while Terry may want to spend liberally, he does have business advisors like Ted Black who sometimes get their way. Terry said he didn't want to raise ticket prices that first year, but they went up. Ted has also talked about needing to be financially responsible to some mythical future owner (no assumption that Terry's money would be around forever; presumably meaning that someone else would own the team — or could it mean Terry would own the team but be more Golisano-like.

     

    This line jumped out at me in TSN's "offseason game plan" piece:

     

     

    The team has an owner with deep pockets who will be willing to spend when it's needed (having already gone the route of spending too much, too soon)....

    http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-buffalo-sabres-1.267947

     

    Is it a fair assumption? The parenthetical note might suggest Terry learned some lesson about not being able to buy a winning team.

  11. The feeling's mutual. :) Too bad you're not funny.  I'm in a flirty thing/nothing with PA for the nonce, but who knows.  Anything can happen in Summertime.

    With the weather heating up, I'm looking for young guys to help shave my back hair. I may get the East Resources logo this year. PM me!

  12. PA wants to hate Pegula.  He will find reasons--fracking, not speaking to media, ordering veal for dinner, buying football teams, wearing sandals, whatever.  There is no point in engaging PA on this issue.

    I want to? What's stopping me? I hate the job he has done as owner. Hate it, yes. Nothing to do with fracking. I've never said word one about where I stand on fracking, and I live in the state he fracked. I said the controversy of fracking is worth mentioning in any news program on the guy, because that's where the money is coming from to do all this stuff in Buffalo. (And New York doesn't allow fracking, which adds a layer of interest).

     

    Anyway, nice strawman. You and others continue to distort. It's telling.

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