shrader
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8 hours ago, Thorny said:
I can’t wait until tomorrow for the next tweet: Nikita Kucherov becomes the first player since Connor McDavid to record 100 assists in a season.
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2 minutes ago, Mango said:
Fair.
I am sick of getting excited about prospects mainly because when you are a bad hockey team for a really long time the system is set up to so that you have a great prospect pool.
Buffalo has been historically bad, their prospects are supposed to be great.
Boston has been historically good, their prospects are supposed to be bad.
The interesting stuff to look at are when a young team like NJ is on the rise with a good looking prospect pool or a bad team like Ottawa's suck. But the worst team and the best team over the last 10 years having the best/worst prospect pools is the way the system is designed.
And it does go a long way to supporting the piece of team building that people seem to miss all the time: player development. There are always going to be those can’t miss guys out there. For the vast majority of the rest, I do think that winding up in the right situation is probably the most important factor.
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11 minutes ago, Mango said:
There are more than two buckets. It isn't "final product" or "prospect".
of course, but he much closer the the latter.
I haven’t read the article since I’m not a subscriber. I’d imagine they outlined the definition of exactly what players they were ranking. All this prospect definition talk ignores that and just becomes a matter of semantics instead. Whatever their definition is (if the word prospect was even used), they think Buffalo has the best. Let’s not move the goal posts in order to debate that stance.
edit: And wait a second. I know they weren’t originally your words, but multiple cups? No current NHL player has been alive long enough to see two cups in Boston. Theirs is not a legacy of winning the cup.
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16 minutes ago, Thorny said:
Comrie is so bad they WON’T LET HIM play in *meaningless games* to wrap up. I honestly don’t think so
I wonder if Dell is a free agent again.
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1 minute ago, Thorny said:
The league isn’t divided into only Comries and Haseks, as much as simplifying to such a degree serves your argument. Finding a goalie better than Comrie is absolutely possible because the bar is basically underground
You say that, but I think Adams could find away to get under that goalie signing limbo bar.
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1 hour ago, Pimlach said:
True. And some people like to believe in prospects more than real NHL players. I could see paying Dahlin and Thompson. The rest ...
They gave a then 22 year old prospect a 7 year contract after 54 NHL games and he can't play more than half a season without getting hurt.
They gave another then 22 year old prospect $7M for 7 years after about 200 games.
Not to be outdone, they gave a then 20 year old $8M for 8 years after just one full season.
This season each and everyone of these players struggled at times under the weight of expectations and the big contracts. None of them are prospects either. The are now high plaid players that carry high expectations.
These may all look like genius deals in 3 or 4 years, or some of them might not work out. It is even possible that these players eventually get moved once the inevitable next regime comes in. Then we get to watch them play in their prime years somewhere else, we are used to that in the Pegula era.
Meanwhile Adams faces his biggest off-season. He has a goalie now, but all of a sudden is his thin at center.
He just traded a solid and skilled two-way center, just hitting prime years at 25 years old, for a 22 year old defenseman who was still a prospect. I cannot wait to see what he is willing to pay this guy.
Are you arguing with yourself right now? I’m not really sure how a quick two sentences about a 21 year old having plenty of room to grow leads to all of this.
Maybe I jumped into a different conversation that I didn’t read. I don’t know.
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20 minutes ago, Pimlach said:
But the fact that he was given $8m for 8 years literally means he is not a prospect. He will be expected to play big minutes and be a difference maker too.
Power is a young player, but not a prospect. On defense, Novikov is a prospect and so is Ryan Johnson.
You know how people like to use the word literally too much…
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14 hours ago, tom webster said:
I think they will add a veteran goalie and a veteran center in the Boone Jenner mode. I’m with you, I don’t see them adding a defenseman. I think they are very happy with their top seven assuming Ryan Johnson steps up and they have no issue with the top four being all left handed.
What kind of veteran goalie though? I think he fully expects a 1A/1B situation between 6K (there you go, @Hank) and Levi. Any veteran would be that #3 type spending most of the time in the AHL. I don’t want to see that, but it’s what I expect.
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7 hours ago, Mango said:
Forget experience. Power and Dahlin signed MASSIVE extensions. How can you be a prospect when you sign an 8x8 second contract?
At least when it comes to Power, I have no problem with the word prospect being thrown around. A 21 year old is nowhere close to being a final product.
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On 4/11/2024 at 5:47 PM, Thorny said:
No, he didn’t. And for the 50 billionth time: *BOTTERILL* traded more picks and prospects away
Nothing a GM does sets a team back “5 years”. The turnover to competitiveness in a league half the teams make the playoffs is *demonstrably* shorter for all but the significant outliers
I know this conversation was held elsewhere, but I’m not really sure where you got the prospect part from. Botterill traded 3 total: Pu, Guhle, and Nylander. Murray matched that count in just the O’Reilly deal.
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At least they called a couple penalties against Denver in the final.
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2 hours ago, Brawndo said:
Looks like a moot point
Tuch and Hutson signed. Watch them win the lottery and add Celebrini too. They’re getting the band back together.
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3 hours ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:
Year ago we (my family - I was 14) skied Snowbird and Alta. Fantastic.
I had no idea that you’re only 15 years old.
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I heard random talk on the radio earlier today saying that this move would need some division realignment. Why? Sat Lake City is actually closer to the rest of the division than Phoenix. It looks like Dallas is the only team increasing their travel after this.
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17 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:
Cooley’s Amerks GAA was 3.77 and save percentage was .891. He stunk.
For comparison, Levi is 2.42 and .929.
But ranting about everything is what we do around here.
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10 minutes ago, Derrico said:
How many times has this been refuted? Who is refuting it? He traded a ton of draft capital in his short tenure. I'm not sure how its even debatable.
https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/articles/opinion/sabres-still-paying-sins-tim-murray
Don’t forget about the prospects. He moved those too.
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1 hour ago, nfreeman said:
I hesitate to memorialize him in any way, but it is nevertheless newsworthy: OJ Simpson has passed away.
Well this is going to make for an interesting train wreck sort of day. You can already see it in action.
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On 4/9/2024 at 12:46 PM, inkman said:
He has been. My only gripe is that he’s a Bryson clone. No more 5’9” defenseman please.
I forget. Does he still only have an AHL contract?
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My 2 year old is a righty. He’s never seen me hold a hockey stick. Today he picked one up and held it righty. He has seen me with a golf club though so that could be it.
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1 minute ago, OverPowerYou said:
What about nba?
Bouncyball is not a real sport
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13 minutes ago, Night Train said:
Something like 64 less goals than last year..no heart many nights..
And yet they may wind up with a positive goal differential after that kind of drop. If whatever team they ice next year can start to score again, it could get interesting (relative to our recent expectations anyway).
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49 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:
Your instinct was correct and he has no say. The Mayor of Scottsdale is complaining about the land being close to downtown Scottsdale, but it's Phoenix land, and the land development plan that the Coyotes got approved by the city council has nothing at all to do with Scottsdale.
Even the submitted arena proposal shows the water infrastructure will be coming from Phoenix.
Any press is good press for the Mayor, I guess.
Yeah, he sounded like an angry ex in what I read.
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11 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:
I say it sancTIMony.
I don’t know why, but now in my mind those last two syllables are rhyming with jiminy, as in the cricket.
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2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:
To pay the price for Tkachuk, you have to have a serious investigation into his maturity level.
His little tantrum the other day was hilarious. They were all up in arms earlier in the year after the Morgan Rielly incident and then he blows up over that? He’s a child.
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The even randomer thread
in The Aud Club
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My neighbors have just started a 2.5 month project building an extension on their house. In other news, my two year old will be entertained for the next 2.5 months.