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It’s simply a statement of fact - yet devoid of context - akin to the sort of excuse making diatribe one might hear at your average Kevyn Adams concert everyone gets it. It doesn’t matter, relative to: the bar being merely their ability to field a playoff team *once* in 5 years. The discussion isn’t about becoming a mainstay Stanley cup contender. You know who can whine? The Jets and their fans. They are frequently (and most recently) ranked WELL below Buffalo *even now(!!!)* on player destination lists, bust their ***** because that’s the job..sorry, let me rephrase that: simply operate with basic competence because that’s the job, and due to the fact *mediocre* teams make the playoffs every year they’ve found a way to make the playoffs…8 times no, it is not an inhibiting factor - not a reasonable one to the small ask we have of a singular playoff appearance Beyond this, Adams has proven he CAN acquire higher level players: McLeod is a higher level player, relative to the simple goal we are trying to achieve. As is Zucker. what did McLeod cost? Only some humbleness. Cutting away a little bit of your slow play plan, admitting defeat and choosing to be better. Namely: a prospective player. it hasn’t been ability that has held Adams back, primarily, neither inside the individual nor without: it has been the will to act. The will to deviate - because his play lacked the will, to begin with

How can you say in sequential posts how crazy the fan base is to even consider Kulich starting on FL1, then follow it up with penciling in Benson there? I think the fact either starting there is equally egregious. In fact it kind of explains the impotence of the organization, doesn’t it?. There are zero 10 goal/28 point forwards slotted on the first line around the league. Benson had the same point total as Krebs, with better line mates, and a higher ATOI. No one is clamoring for Krebs to play alongside Tage. Until Benson puts up a 20 goal season like JJP, then first line LW should not be a consideration. In terms of age and pedigree, why would Quinn not supersede Benson in the overall hierarchy? I think it’s more probable than not he out points both Kulich and Benson.

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You don’t believe that it is true and an inhibiting factor in pursuing higher level players?

I wasn’t being sarcastic. I was being dead serious. After all two genius talking heads on the NHL network said Jones is great. Why shouldn’t I believe them? Of course it does raise the question is if Jones was so great why didn’t he have better options then signing here?

Ditto. I will wait for the actual line combo's and D pairings. Camp will sort that out. Not buying any of the combo's listed above. Byram believes he's playing with our Captain, which is fine. Goalie still worries me. UPL turned into a head case last year. Can he rebound ?

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Absolutely. Jones is the savior of the Sabres inept defense. It was the signing of the century. Didn't Adams give Johnson a 3 year deal? I think Metsa has a better shot of making the Sabres then Zac Jones.

I went with hope but in my heart, I know we're done.

This might as well be an ai response literally what the chat GP spits out for Adams’s press conferences Let’s do better here

KA is the GM. Did you expect boldness and creativity from him?

Lhd Zac Jones was buried on the Rangers where their top D shoots right but will have a better chance on the Sabres where they have 2 first overall lefties, a 4th overall lefty, Bryson who they love because... vibes? And Ryan Johnson who's been waiting 3 years. Yea sure, Jones has a shot. Oh and Samuelsson... I suppose he counts

I think some people are way too quick to dump Krebs.

In space, no one can hear you spend

I love when trade proposals pop up and include Krebs or Rosen. One guy is trying to remake himself into a 4th line grinder, and the other will probably be back across the pond within a couple of years. I doubt a single GM is calling and asking about either of them.

The benson Zucker switch is balance and I do expect it for fit too, Kulich OR Norris at 1C as we need a playmaker on that line, with Tage on other side If I wanted to win a game right now 5 V 5 I’d probably line up Zucker - McLeod - Thompson Byram - Dahlin - - - you could extrapolate the full top 12 from there actually (I just think they may lean Benson - Norris on top line beside Tage to maximize offensive upside) Zucker - McLeod - Thompson Benson - Norris - Tuch Doan - Kulich - Quinn Greenway - Krebs - Danforth would probably be my “win at 6 pm tonight” lineup. Maybe switch greenway w/doan if I’m falling victim to shiny new toy - - - As for the question…I think we are close to done ya. Maybe a depth add somewhere but I doubt something at least consequential like a Roslovic or something

Adams doesn’t know if he is done until he asks Terry. 😂

I could see that being the lines tbh merely switching benson and Zucker. And honestly I don’t know where the centres like up if I was lining up to win a hockey game, right now, McLeod is the one C. I think when Norris is slotted there it’s at least partially the “idea” of Norris and I think when Kulich is there it’s basically an attempt to visually minimize the lines that look wonky (properly slot McLeod and Norris) and basically hope he’s masked by Tage’s shadow

FTFY sorry I just Wasn’t he lined up at 1C at time last year? I really tuned out towards the end

Lines-wise I think Thompson/Norris should be a thing and Benson is the best choice to ride shotgun. I think McLeod/Tuch is going to win a lot of matchups. And I really like the idea of Zucker continuing his mentorship of Kulich on line 3. I could see Greenway fitting in with either of those units, with Quinn or Doan working on the other. Or run Quinn and Doan with Kulich on a sheltered line and put Zucker with McLeod and Tuch for offensive situations and Greenway for defensive.

So 25% of the young players must step up and improve AND let’s not forget that the top 25% must also stay heathy and have a good season, AND we have to get much better goaltending than last season, AND we have to fix the Power Play. Team defense, team mental toughness, the ability to hold leads, the ability to avoid losing streaks - There are a lot of factors that have to come together. Looking forward to it but right now I’m not sure they did enough.

Depth chart (hierarchy, not lines) Zucker Norris Thompson Benson McLeod Tuch Greenway Kulich Quinn Malenstyn Krebs Doan Rosen Kozak Danforth Dunne Östlund Helenius Power Dahlin* Byram Kesselring Samuelsson Timmons Jones Bryson* Novikov Johnson* Luukkonen Lyon Levi Ratzlaff *offhand

If we play him in the top 4... he's a top 4 d-man. And going by Adams' words, then his value in a trade is 1:1 for a top 6 forward. Get it done!