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What's your take on Lyon's vibe as a goalie and how he's seen by his teammates compared to UPL?

I wouldn't but primarily due to the contract

We would trade Thompson for Robertson.

I did, we’ve had this conversation a few months back and you intimated that you wouldn’t be opposed to seeing what Adams could do “unencumbered”. You’ve changed your stance since then - to that I said congrats and welcome to the wiserhood

He is not a playmaker at all. He is a finisher. He could be a 50+ goal player but he will never be the catalyst that consistently drives the play. He is a piece of the puzzle but not the solution to the problem.

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At this point, if you can find anyone to take his full contract off your hands, I'd do it. 2round pick, 5th round pick, 'future considerations', whatever. Take the best offer. To me its important to just 'move on' and free up that money if its possible. If Lyon and Levi/Ellis aren't the answer, then you are in no worse situation on the ice than you are with UPL, but you have nearly $5m more in cap space. With Doan, and Kesserling, and Benson, and Tuch, and 3 bottom of the roster spots needing to be signed next year, AND currently only about $20m to spend on all of that, every dollar counts and you are wasting a lot of those dollars on UPL. If he can be moved, The return in assets doesn't matter. The return in cap space is more valuable than what he gives you as a player now.

All I know is that there is something about UPL that brings out the worst in the entire team. And this team is already enough of a mental train wreck.

No I wouldn't. I'd want changes from top to bottom. You never understood my point about Adams. I would not give him another chance under a new owner. My whole problem with the owner is, a new GM won't change much if the Owner sets the rules from above. Its not that Adams needs a new owner to suceed, its just that a new GM won't do much different under this owner. I have not recently fully supported Adams. If/when we get a new GM, is he going to be given full autonomy over decisions? Sure, he'll had to run him by Pegula, but it needs to be more of a "this is what I am doing and let me tell you why", rather than getting Pegula's input. I have been indifferent to the GM changing, because that change alone, with no other changes around it, won't do much unless the owner changes (or at least changes how he operates.)

Realistic is bump him to #3 for this season, looking for a trade partner, particularly when some gets an injury and loses their starter for an extended timeframe. Should he be here at the end of the year, give him an opportunity to make the parent club, but expect him to be the Amerks goalie while either Levi or Ellis get traded with the other one acting as Lyon's backup next year. Especially with the cap going up, there's a better chance than people expect that they can send him somewhere. Pretty sure both parties are at the point they need a fresh start. And, no, don't expect that to happen as long as Adams is calling the shots.

Because Terry doesn’t care as much about the sabres. He doesn’t understand hockey and the combo led to him hiring an awful GM. The theory he’s just hiring a yes man doesn’t fit anymore and hasn’t for a while - Bills comp proves it. He hired the guy who was already inclined to build the team in a fashion he liked. And he lets him flounder because he’s a terrible owner for the sabres

He'll do okay in Liiga.

I assume humor was intended. Benson is listed at 5'10" and 180, and still only 20. He is actually bigger right now than Danny Gare was. He is an inch shorter but already the same weight that Mike Peca was. Benson will add another 8 to 10 pounds in the next few years. His shot is the only area that really needs improvement. He can work on this and getting stronger will help.

Continue to submarine the Sabres until the current FO and coaching staff is finally sent packing, then see if he can catch on in a different league when they finally part ways with him.

I don't understand why the Bills get every possible advantage from this owner and the Sabres get left behind. Beane does not seem like a yes man like Adams. Why does Terry accept that from him but doesn't want someone with more power for the Sabres? I love the Bills but actually enjoyed the Sabres run in the mid 2000s much more than the current Bills' run

Was just curious. I think the sv% alone is telling 99% of the story anyways.

In the macro, sure: like all owners. The reason he can stay away day to day is because he *agrees with* Adams. of COURSE it is the job of the gm to convince the owner of a good team building tact. We can say Adams is incapable of doing this, which makes him an utter failure, but in reality it’s worse: he and the owner simply see it the same way. No convincing necessary it’s not a competent GM who’s having his good ideas shot down by a buffoon, it’s a buffoon who brings incompetent ideas to the table because he was chosen by someone who shares his incompetence

Not sure. NHL doesn't post that and Moneypuck only doesn't do cumulative seasons as fast as I know.

He's absentee for the day to day but when decisions are made I bet he's not. Trade deadline, draft, free agency, he's around giving his thoughts or orders. Ik you're referring to the UPL debate you are having. Idk if Terry cares enough for that but we do know Terry has favorites so maybe that's what upl is. I doubt he cares about the lineup each night unless something happens.

Plan was always a slow play rebuild. This is why Eichel asked to be traded. Remember

There are there are folks who refuse to lambast his performance without a caveat. When you will quite literally never offer a job critique of said person without including the caveat it’s incredibly telling

Will agree with two pieces of this. Benson, due to his current strength level, has little faith in his shot. When he gets stronger, he'll shoot more, and the shot will likely be effective. (And he is a very smart player with great stick work in the corners too.) But, his size didn't cause a shot block to mess up his foot. His size didn't cause a puck to the face to cause internal bleeding. Yes, he'll be a better player when he's stronger, but he's already ahead of decent.

What’s a realistic plan for UPL’s future? I’m guessing 99.9% of proposed solutions aren’t going to happen.

Y'all ever consider Thompson looks bad because his game is solely predicated on him shooting with almost tunnel vision? That he's a guy who rarely elevates his teammates or passes to HD areas? He's a cannon.