BayAreaSabresFan Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Man! That was awsome. It didn't get much attention (and it was a bit late). The guy he hit didn't know his ars from his face for a few seconds.java script:emoticon(':thumbsup:',%20'smid_23') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Even though Mair plastered the guy, I didn't like the hit. I thought it was well after he had unloaded the puck. That makes it a dirty play, IMHO. I'd be extremely PO'd if it was Briere or Max that got creamed like that and it resulted in an injury. If someone has the puck and is skating up ice, he's fair game. Once he passes it, unless it's only a split-second later (ie too late to pull up), he shouldn't be hit. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I agree freeman, as soon as it happened I say 'That's a penalty.' I was stunned one was not called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 You guys crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 You didn't think it was late, PA? I'm not saying he should be suspended or it was durty, but it was late. It's an interference call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionAMG Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I completely agree with you guys. I didn't get to see the game but saw some highlights of it and when I saw the hit I just assumed it was a penalty. I know things happen a lot faster on the ice than when we are watching it on tv. But it literally looked like Mair didn't stride to hit him until after he had already passed the puck away. I don't think it was malicious or dirty, but I just can't believe they didn't call a penalty on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I completely agree with you guys. I didn't get to see the game but saw some highlights of it and when I saw the hit I just assumed it was a penalty. I know things happen a lot faster on the ice than when we are watching it on tv. But it literally looked like Mair didn't stride to hit him until after he had already passed the puck away. I don't think it was malicious or dirty, but I just can't believe they didn't call a penalty on that one. I can't believe they didn't call a penalty when Kalinin was clearly boarded in front of the Sabres bench. You know, just before he took his weak cross-checking penalty? In my professional opinion (yes, I get paid to referee, therefore I am a professional), the officiating was poor last night. Especially on the offsides goal by Murray. I should be able to look up to an NHL linesman, but that was just an awful anticipation on that play. Also, Roy should've been called for hooking on Bergeron's breakaway. Yes, it was a great hustle play, but he clearly hooked up the stick, and made contact with the hands. Same goes for when Vanek had the puck at the attacking blue line, attempting to keep it inside the line, and he was clearly hooked with no call. Many more calls when uncalled. In my opinion, Mair's hit was a little late, but not late enough for a penalty. Any later, and it's a penalty for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I can't believe they didn't call a penalty when Kalinin was clearly boarded in front of the Sabres bench. You know, just before he took his weak cross-checking penalty? In my professional opinion (yes, I get paid to referee, therefore I am a professional), the officiating was poor last night. Especially on the offsides goal by Murray. I should be able to look up to an NHL linesman, but that was just an awful anticipation on that play. Also, Roy should've been called for hooking on Bergeron's breakaway. Yes, it was a great hustle play, but he clearly hooked up the stick, and made contact with the hands. Same goes for when Vanek had the puck at the attacking blue line, attempting to keep it inside the line, and he was clearly hooked with no call. Many more calls when uncalled. In my opinion, Mair's hit was a little late, but not late enough for a penalty. Any later, and it's a penalty for sure. When I first saw Roy's play on the backcheck, I thought "penalty shot", then I was amazed that no penalty was called. But one of the replays showed (I thought) that he really just lifted the stick at the exact right moment, allowing the puck to slide to Miller. That replay angle made it look like an amazing, and clean, backchecking play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Sorry DC, but I just watched it again on the Yahoo highlights ... it's at about the 2:30 mark ... the Boston guy took 2 full strides after passing the puck and only then did Mair hit him. I may not be an official, but that's late to me. Like I said, it's not a dirty hit, I'm all for open-ice hitting, but sometimes you time it wrong and it costs you 2 minutes, just like sometimes you have a guy lined up and he zigs instead of zags you your knee catches him ... not dirty, but 2 minutes for kneeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Sorry DC, but I just watched it again on the Yahoo highlights ... it's at about the 2:30 mark ... the Boston guy took 2 full strides after passing the puck and only then did Mair hit him. I may not be an official, but that's late to me. Like I said, it's not a dirty hit, I'm all for open-ice hitting, but sometimes you time it wrong and it costs you 2 minutes, just like sometimes you have a guy lined up and he zigs instead of zags you your knee catches him ... not dirty, but 2 minutes for kneeing. To me, this makes it a dirty hit. Once you pass off the puck, you aren't expecting to get hit, so your body isn't ready for the contact. It creates a dangerous situation. If you view the top 10 scott stevens hits video on youtube, you'll see that at least half of them were similar situations -- ie hits well after the players had passed the puck and so weren't expecting to get hit -- and players like Lindros, Kariya, etc. suffered serious injuries as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 To me, this makes it a dirty hit. Once you pass off the puck, you aren't expecting to get hit, so your body isn't ready for the contact. It creates a dangerous situation. If you view the top 10 scott stevens hits video on youtube, you'll see that at least half of them were similar situations -- ie hits well after the players had passed the puck and so weren't expecting to get hit -- and players like Lindros, Kariya, etc. suffered serious injuries as a result. The fact that Stevens was gunning for their heads might have a bit to do with that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 To me, this makes it a dirty hit. Once you pass off the puck, you aren't expecting to get hit, so your body isn't ready for the contact. It creates a dangerous situation. If you view the top 10 scott stevens hits video on youtube, you'll see that at least half of them were similar situations -- ie hits well after the players had passed the puck and so weren't expecting to get hit -- and players like Lindros, Kariya, etc. suffered serious injuries as a result. Interference (NOTE 2) Possession of the Puck: The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession. The question here is, what is the hockey definition of immediately? Like I said earlier, I think it was almost a penalty. Any later and it would have definitely been one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I guess 2 strides is just not immediately to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionAMG Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Interference (NOTE 2) Possession of the Puck: The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession. The question here is, what is the hockey definition of immediately? Like I said earlier, I think it was almost a penalty. Any later and it would have definitely been one. wow... i never knew that... so technically by the rules, until the player he passed it to touches the puck, he could still be checked legally thats interesting. thanks DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 wow... i never knew that... so technically by the rules, until the player he passed it to touches the puck, he could still be checked legally thats interesting. thanks DC Remember when Andreychuk scored from the bench. I wonder if someone could have nailed him on the bench before the puck past the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 wow... i never knew that... so technically by the rules, until the player he passed it to touches the puck, he could still be checked legally Wait ... by that logic, I guy who ices the puck next his own net is fair game until someone touches the puck 180 feet away ... something tells me running someone behind the net as the puck is crossing the opposite blue line would be frowned upon. I'm not saying what Mair did was like that, but it wasn't immediate either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot1619 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Remember when Andreychuk scored from the bench. I wonder if someone could have nailed him on the bench before the puck past the goal line. Coincidently that was against our good friends the Boston Bruins... I would have hated to be Andy Moog after that goal. Bounced right through the five hole As for the hit... Thought it was late... surprised it wasn't called, but If the ref didn't see it, it would explain why it wasn't called. Only 2 refs on the ice at a time only so much Ice can be watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawerchuk Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Yeah, good intent on the hit, but a bit late. The Boston guy got rid of the puck like 5 seconds ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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