Byram vs Power - Who are you keeping long-term?

[DarthEbriate]

On 11/18/2025 at 4:00 PM, oddoublee said:

Well...NJ has to actually want him first.

Easy. Quinn Hughes is UFA in 2027. Dougie Hamilton is UFA in 2028.

Trade Dougie Hamilton in 2027 and sign Quinn to a good deal. Upgrade and get younger. Let the Hughes triumvirate (unless there are more coming) be their inexpensive core (by production) for the next 5 seasons. It requires Jack Hughes to stay healthy, but the talent is there at 1C and 1D.

[DarthEbriate]

And to the topic of the post:

I don't keep either long term.

As long as I can keep Dahlin, I'm good. I have my 1D/PP1, franchise guy who can compete for Norris' and can take over games.

Moving Power can get me 3 building blocks (1st rounder, player, + something). Moving Byram, who is fine as a complimentary piece to Dahlin but to no one else... might get me a 1st or a player. Either way, I can rebuild my D-corp for balance and get a 3rd pair guy who is a PP QB, get a forward, and picks.

Now, if losing Tuch causes Dahlin to say, "Enough!" --- then I go with Power over Byram. But that's worst-case scenario.

[LGR4GM]

They should move on from Byram because he's mediocre. 

They should move on from Power because he's passive. 

They should move on from both. 

[SabreFinn]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

They should move on from Byram because he's mediocre. 

They should move on from Power because he's passive. 

They should move on from both. 

I agree on that. I am curious and have to ask, how would you replace them and how would you like the D to be constructed?

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, SabreFinn said:

I agree on that. I am curious and have to ask, how would you replace them and how would you like the D to be constructed?

If you move on from both, Mrtka probably ends up in Buffalo next season which I don't love. If possible, I'd like to see him go to Rochester for a year. 

I think you can replace Byram with Novikov on the 3rd pair. Ik there's skating concerns but Novikov is positional and tough. There's also ufa and lower end guys you could trade picks or prospects for. 

In the Power trade, I'd probably look for a team with good prospects, a decent nhl veteran lhd, and then build the trade around that. So maybe St. Louis and ask for Carbonneau, Broberg, and a 3rd or something. 

[LGR4GM]

Byram, I would look to Vancouver. I would try to get Chytil (yea I know he has a bad concussion history) and a 2nd round pick. I don't think you can get a ton more for Byram. If not Vancouver, than LA Kings would be an option. I would love to pry Liam Greentree from their cold dead hands (metaphorically) but I doubt Byram gets that done. Maybe Byram and one of the 400 RHD prospects (not Mrtka) can get you that. Outside of that, maybe they would part with Danault. Note that Danault has a modified NMC but that would be a player with TONS of experience that could help the team. 

Power for Carbonneau, Broberg, and a 3rd

Byram, 3rd, and Kleber for Danault and Greentree (I am probably a bit light here for Buffalo) 

[HILLsabre]

17 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

And to the topic of the post:

I don't keep either long term.

As long as I can keep Dahlin, I'm good. I have my 1D/PP1, franchise guy who can compete for Norris' and can take over games.

Moving Power can get me 3 building blocks (1st rounder, player, + something). Moving Byram, who is fine as a complimentary piece to Dahlin but to no one else... might get me a 1st or a player. Either way, I can rebuild my D-corp for balance and get a 3rd pair guy who is a PP QB, get a forward, and picks.

Now, if losing Tuch causes Dahlin to say, "Enough!" --- then I go with Power over Byram. But that's worst-case scenario.

Keeping Power would be definitely worst- case scenario!!!

[Pimlach]

Owen Power is 23 tomorrow.  Happy Birthday Owen!  Beat Carolina. 

He is now in his 4th full season in the NHL.  

 

Edited Saturday at 11:53 PM by Pimlach

[Huckleberry]

On 11/21/2025 at 7:56 PM, LGR4GM said:

Byram, I would look to Vancouver. I would try to get Chytil (yea I know he has a bad concussion history) and a 2nd round pick. I don't think you can get a ton more for Byram. If not Vancouver, than LA Kings would be an option. I would love to pry Liam Greentree from their cold dead hands (metaphorically) but I doubt Byram gets that done. Maybe Byram and one of the 400 RHD prospects (not Mrtka) can get you that. Outside of that, maybe they would part with Danault. Note that Danault has a modified NMC but that would be a player with TONS of experience that could help the team. 

Power for Carbonneau, Broberg, and a 3rd

Byram, 3rd, and Kleber for Danault and Greentree (I am probably a bit light here for Buffalo) 

Don't think he is back yet from that Wilson hit a month ago, career is close to being over.   It's his 5th concussion injury?

[GASabresIUFAN]

Power vs Ristolainen - 1st 3 full seasons 

A - 23g - 83a - 106 pts

B  - 17g - 91a - 108 pts

Who is who?

[Jorcus]

On 11/22/2025 at 6:52 PM, Pimlach said:

Owen Power is 23 tomorrow.  Happy Birthday Owen!  Beat Carolina. 

He is now in his 4th full season in the NHL.  

 

 

Power has his flaws but no one on the team can carry the puck up ice on his stick better than he can. Might be one of the best in the NHL at doing that. 

[Jorcus]

11 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Power vs Ristolainen - 1st 3 full seasons 

A - 23g - 83a - 106 pts      -62

B  - 17g - 91a - 108 pts       +5

Who is who?

Obviously power is B however. Power is on the second power play unit, Was at least a year younger starting in the NHL and is a positive plus 5 in +/-  Risto was a minus 62. 

[Pimlach]

11 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Power vs Ristolainen - 1st 3 full seasons 

A - 23g - 83a - 106 pts

B  - 17g - 91a - 108 pts

Who is who?

Power is B.   

You completely ignored that Risto played 34 games prior to his first "full season"  and Power played only 8 games.

Also, Risto was -62 in that 3 season span, Power was +5 over his first 3 "full" season.   Risto proceeded to play at a stellar -128 over his first 5 seasons.      

Power is the better player, and it is not even close.  

 

[LGR4GM]

12 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Power vs Ristolainen - 1st 3 full seasons 

A - 23g - 83a - 106 pts

B  - 17g - 91a - 108 pts

Who is who?

I will guess... 

A is Risto and B is Power? I feel like Power has fewer goals but makes nicer passes. 

16 minutes ago, Jorcus said:

 

Power has his flaws but no one on the team can carry the puck up ice on his stick better than he can. Might be one of the best in the NHL at doing that. 

Except you know, Rasmus Dahlin. 

[Jorcus]

47 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I will guess... 

A is Risto and B is Power? I feel like Power has fewer goals but makes nicer passes. 

Except you know, Rasmus Dahlin. 

Rasmus Dahlin is a way better player all around but I think Power is bit better in that one aspect. The zone entries on the power play smooth and more decisive. Any open ice Power is going to roll. His last few games have been especially good in using his feet to exit the zone and carry on through the neutral zone. If he has open ice he is going to take it.