Brawndo Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, darksabre said: The problem with the Sabres tanking when they did was that the cupboard was bare Rochester. If they had tanked while keeping good players in Rochester to develop and then brought them all up a few at a time after the tank things would probably have worked a lot better. Darcy started the tank, but the aftershock is owed to his YEARS of poor drafting that we are only just now recovering from. This is where GMTM’s Trades made things worse. Trading two second round picks for Fasching. Trading three of the Top 31 Picks in the deepest draft since 2003. That’s five players who would probably be either on the Sabres Roster or in Rochester right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Brawndo said: One large concern with Housley is how he uses his match ups in games. Despite having the last line change at home he put the Eichel Line out consistently versus Bergeron’s Line in the home opener. Also during the Tampa Game on Saturday, Sobotka’s Line was getting destroyed by Kucherov’s while Larsson and Zemgus who are the the best at shutting down opponents where matched up against the Tampa Fourth Line. Granted the Kucherov Line is one of the best in hockey, but at least put your best defensive line against them. Housley is on record as saying that he doesn't line match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, darksabre said: Housley is on record as saying that he doesn't line match. That’s also why he doesn’t win Edited January 16, 2019 by Brawndo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: That’s also why he doesn’t win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Pommer also started well last season before quickly running out of gas, as he did this season. I don't think he's got anything left. I too would like to see if Reino can consistently lead a 2nd line and thus improve their 2ndary scoring. This is fair. I complain to myself every time I see Eichel's line take a D-zone faceoff or Larsson's line take an O-zone faceoff (neither of which happen that often, but arguably it should never happen). My favorite is after the Larsson Line grinds down the opposition to the point where they are exhausted and ices the puck, Housley puts the Sobotka Line out for the ensuing face off, even though the Eichel Line is rested , and the puck is carried out of the zone allowing a line change ten seconds later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, darksabre said: The problem with the Sabres tanking when they did was that the cupboard was bare Rochester. If they had tanked while keeping good players in Rochester to develop and then brought them all up a few at a time after the tank things would probably have worked a lot better. Darcy started the tank, but the aftershock is owed to his YEARS of poor drafting that we are only just now recovering from. Which is what JBot is trying to do. Hence the reason I'm more inclined to look at this season as the first real attempt to recover from the Tank Years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, ... said: Which is what JBot is trying to do. Hence the reason I'm more inclined to look at this season as the first real attempt to recover from the Tank Years. Agreed. We're basically playing catchup from Darcy, and it's worse because GMTM messed up so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I’m not advocating for Housley to be fired at the end of the season, just to change coaches, but if there is a better choice out there to Coach the team make the move. If he is resistant to line matchups he is going to get rolled in the playoffs, if he can get a team there, even when the Sabres have talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Brawndo said: I’m not advocating for Housley to be fired at the end of the season, just to change coaches, but if there is a better choice out there to Coach the team make the move. If he is resistant to line matchups he is going to get rolled in the playoffs, if he can get a team there, even when the Sabres have talent. Throw the power play mess in there and that would be my one-two punch of coaching criticisms at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, darksabre said: Throw the power play mess in there and that would be my one-two punch of coaching criticisms at the moment. It’s interesting that was Nashville Fans biggest complaint about him was the PP and not surprisingly it has improved since he came to Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, darksabre said: The problem with the Sabres tanking when they did was that the cupboard was bare Rochester. If they had tanked while keeping good players in Rochester to develop and then brought them all up a few at a time after the tank things would probably have worked a lot better. Darcy started the tank, but the aftershock is owed to his YEARS of poor drafting that we are only just now recovering from. So much this. People tend to want to look at things in a very black and white way, but in truth, there are a multitude of factors for why the Sabres are where they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Does anyone have a link to something where Phil says he won't line match. I would like to understand his thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, ... said: Does anyone have a link to something where Phil says he won't line match. I would like to understand his thinking. I forget when it was, but it was maybe back during the streak, or shortly after? I think he said it in a pre-game interview somewhere. I remember hearing it and being stunned. It was something to the effect of "the other coach likes to match lines but I'm not worried about doing that". He made it sound like line-matching was something fiddly people do. Might have been the Toronto game after the streak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, darksabre said: I forget when it was, but it was maybe back during the streak, or shortly after? I think he said it in a pre-game interview somewhere. I remember hearing it and being stunned. It was something to the effect of "the other coach likes to match lines but I'm not worried about doing that". He made it sound like line-matching was something fiddly people do. Might have been the Toronto game after the streak? That's not a lot to go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, ... said: That's not a lot to go on. Yeah. I really don't remember when it was. I just remember thinking it was weird. I think someone asked him, maybe on WGR, what his plan was against the opposing coach. I really want to say he was talking about Babcock. Someone with more time than me might be able to dig it up. I can't have been the only person who heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, darksabre said: Yeah. I really don't remember when it was. I just remember thinking it was weird. I think someone asked him, maybe on WGR, what his plan was against the opposing coach. I really want to say he was talking about Babcock. Someone with more time than me might be able to dig it up. I can't have been the only person who heard it. ^That guy did. Still looking for the actual quote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Thorny said: ^That guy did. Still looking for the actual quote. I chat with him on Twitter every once in a while, I’ll ask if he remembers where it came from 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 My buddies are saying it was WGR, so it must have been one of his appearances back in either November or December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Possible 12-11 with Howard and Jeremy before the Kings game?https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/12-11-sabres-head-coach-phil-housley-howard-and-jeremy Or 12-5 after the Leafs game?https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/12-05-sabres-head-coach-phil-housley-howard-and-jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Here is the response 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I'm digging through the podcasts on WGR. It's neither of the two I've posted so far. Still looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, darksabre said: Possible 12-11 with Howard and Jeremy before the Kings game?https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/12-11-sabres-head-coach-phil-housley-howard-and-jeremy Or 12-5 after the Leafs game?https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/12-05-sabres-head-coach-phil-housley-howard-and-jeremy No dice for me. But of note is he thinks the powerplay is "good" as of December 5th. Edited January 16, 2019 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: No dice for me. But of note is he thinks the powerplay is "good" as of December 5th. I caught that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Here is the response This is what I keep finding. Even last year he was often speaking about his preferred desire to "roll 4". https://www.nhl.com/sabres/video/phil-housley-pregame-13018/t-277437090/c-57129203 Now, this isn't saying "I don't do line matching" but rolling 4 certainly comes up enough that it seems to be a strong preference for him, at least. Says it's "really important" at around the :30 second mark. Edited January 16, 2019 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 23 hours ago, SDS said: That was Kelly and Ted. Kelly had a nice, 2-minute drive one game and when he trotted off and told Ted how comfortable he was in that setting. Ted went with it. Marv hated it. Sort of sad irony: Ted died three years ago today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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