PTS Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 "U.S. forces, joined by Iraqi troops, on Thursday launched the largest air assault since the U.S.-led invasion, targeting insurgent strongholds north of the capital, the military said. More than 1,500 Iraqi and Coalition troops, over 200 tactical vehicles, and more than 50 aircraft participated in the operation." God bless our troops. It's great to see that we decided to open a serious can of whoop ass again. This country panders too much to appease everyone, either we pull out or go all out. Having friends in the military, I know how much they hate being "peacekeepers" and how much they rather "bring the peace". Get some! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Are you sure you want to get into this? Mixing hockey and war and politics... I dunno. Insurgent strongholds? Every time we bomb one, don't we end up killing women and children and have to apologize to the Muslim world? Are there really insurgent "strongholds"? The nature of an insurgency, and the reason one is so difficult to defeat, is that they blend into the population. They are nowhere and everywhere at once. No uniform, no standing army, no apparent command structure. We are finding out what the Soviets found out in Afghanistan, and the Brits before us in Iraq in 1920, and the Brits in America, and... history is full of examples. I applaud and support the troops. God bless them. They never should have been put in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannie34 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Are you sure you want to get into this? Mixing hockey and war and politics... I dunno. Insurgent strongholds? Every time we bomb one, don't we end up killing women and children and have to apologize to the Muslim world? Are there really insurgent "strongholds"? The nature of an insurgency, and the reason one is so difficult to defeat, is that they blend into the population. They are nowhere and everywhere at once. No uniform, no standing army, no apparent command structure. We are finding out what the Soviets found out in Afghanistan, and the Brits before us in Iraq in 1920, and the Brits in America, and... history is full of examples. I applaud and support the troops. God bless them. They never should have been put in this situation. I dont really want to argu about politics but I dont remember the last time we apolgized to the Muslim world was. Also just because an insurgency isnt and official army doesnt mean they dont have places where they gather... and i think we have been there long enough to know where those "strongholds" are. I agree with PTS you gotta stay agressive because we are already there and the more we play offense the less time they will have to counterattack. Hoo-rah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Maybe after we tortured a bunch of them at Abu Ghraib? OK, so we go kill a couple hundred insurgents. Do you know how many tens of thousands we have killed so far in this war? I think Bush estimated 30,000 recently. What's the point? Thousands more take their place. This is an ideological war, and we are losing it. Seannie, I take it you served or do serve in the military. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannie34 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 No I havent been in the military im in college I am just a conservative that supports the war on terror. Apologizing after Abu Ghraib is different than apologizing for killing women and children, everyone knows that there is collateral damage in a war like this and I dont really feel the need to apologize to a group of people that have absolutly no hesitation to kill our women and children. And in some ways its an idealogical war but it really is about preventing terrorist attacks on American soil and so far we have done that. I just used hoo-rah because i was it was a pro-military post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Would you go to Iraq tomorrow and risk your life for this cause? Or is that someone else's job? Same question to PTS. Sorry to be so blunt, but I think that's what any debate about war always boils down to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightrider Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 OK, how does this go to the PPP board? :) Personally, I hate having to go run another country. We are geographically isolated, and with all of the natural resources we need. Why spend those resources on another country? The biggest reason is that is still too easy to get into this country. However, we (nor anyone else) did anything about Germany at the end of WWI. If we had, perhaps the gassing of 6 million Jews and a second world war might have been avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber61 Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 However, we (nor anyone else) did anything about Germany at the end of WWI. If we had, perhaps the gassing of 6 million Jews and a second world war might have been avoided. Some... (not me!) would debate whether avoiding the gassing of 6 million jews would be a good thing... people are exposed to the surface of what happend in that time... no one really pays attention to why hitler did it... just that he did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 no one really pays attention to why hitler did it... just that he did... WTF does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I was breezing through this threa, then came across that statement ("no one really pays attention to why hitler did it... just that he did...") and kept going, waiting for a response to nfreeman's question. Damn I was disappointed to see no answer at he end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Answer 1: hitler couldn't win on the road. Am i correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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