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  1. 22 hours ago, Eleven said:

    Orr, Lafleur, Bossy, Potvin, and I can probably think of a few others.  Espo never impressed me that much and Borque always was overrated.  Not to say that he isn't one of the greats--he is--but overrated among the greats.

    I think Orr would be the pick.  The other 3 were on the list behind hasek.  

    On 1/31/2023 at 7:39 PM, Thorny said:

    Wait where was Howe? 

    7 seems good for Hasek glad they didn’t go with a good Canadian boy goalie 

    Howe is discluded as the majority of his statistical impact happened prior to expansion.  

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  2. Just now, mjd1001 said:

    Unless someone is WAY out of place, its hard to argue.  Hasek at #7 Im fine with. Personally of everyone I have seen since I was a little kid (late 1970s, but I was so young I barely remember that) I would put him at #2 myself.....but I'm fine with #7.

    Gretzky, Crosby, Lemieux

    Jagr, ovechkin

    Whos missing?

  3. 11 hours ago, matter2003 said:

    Krebs has been playing very well I think since he has been getting paired with KO and Zemgus. Really picking it up on offense the past 5-6 games as well.

    Agree...our offensive skill up and down the lineup is second to nobody in totality.

     

    He seems to have gotten over his allergy to shooting.  If there is nothing open, don't force a pass - just shoot.  Sometimes it goes in.  

  4. 59 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    They better get it together tonight.  To say they sucked last night is an understatement. TCU was better.

    They played a lot better after the first.  But the passing was just off all night, turnover city, passes in skates.  They were disruptive to anything we tried to do in the neutral zone, and zone entry was an issue all night.  

    Power played really badly.  So did Skinner.  

    Thought Anderson was mostly fine.  The other goalie played really well to get that shutout. 

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  5. 5 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    He has made 7.2 for his career according to capfriendly. By the time a move is made, he’ll gave earned about 50% of this year’s 1.7.   
    He very well could want the additional money, but he also might want an opportunity in another organization to try to earn a contract for next season.  I don’t think spending the rest of the year in Rochester is the best way to earn an NHL deal for next season.

    Assuming he clears waivers, he's likely the first call up if the team suffers a serious injury to a forward.  

  6. 4 minutes ago, Taro T said:

    Have been saying for a long time (well since UPL started to earn his spot) that the best move is to have Anderson "suffer" a soft tissue injury in practice and be put on IR.  (The team isn't anywhere close to the cap, so BF-LTIR isn't in play & possible cap circumvention isn't a league concern.)  That way, all 3 goalies remain Sabres & no skater is at risk of a waiver claim.  And there's no way a 41 year old professional athlete playing a contact sport like hockey DOESN'T already have aches he daily works through, so it wouldn't even be fibbing.

    But also believe that Adams & Anderson are too honorable & straight up to go for that solution.

    So, the next best choice is waiving Hinostroza & hoping he clears.  Considering how little he's played, & the cap situation of most of the teams at the top of the standings, & the tacit desire of teams at the bottom to continue losing, there's not much likelihood of him getting claimed.  Better players than him have cleared.

    And, no hand wringing over Jokiharju coming back.  The 8th D-man goes down.  At present, that's clearly Fitzgerald.  Same rationale for why he'll likely clear too.

    They can't send a guy who's playing as well as UPL is back down when he's come so far in a relatively short time frame.  They talk about giving players the ability to earn their spot in the lineup.  And also how much doing things the right way matters.  Well, this is one where the rubber meets the road.

    At the end of the day - they claimed jost... who was not part of the plans earlier in the year.  He has essentially taken hinostrozas job, so he's become somewhat expendable.  

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  7. Just now, dudacek said:

    Do you send down a guy who is on a 7-1 run playing against tough teams as your number one goalie?

    Of course not.

    If forced to make the call, I waive my 14th forward — the pending UFA who has played just one game in the last 6 weeks and has no goals and 4 assists in his past 14.

    But I'm with Inky. I expect they will use IR, or (the threat of?) an Anderson retirement to their advantage.

    Whatever happens, it's not going to affect a player who's going to be here next year, or our chances in the playoff race.

    Makes sense to me - he might even clear waivers.  9 teams have available cap to sign him without doing other stuff first, and one of them is buffalo (https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/cap/).  

    If Krebs or Jost were hurt, asplund is first off the bench.  If it were olofsson or mitts, maybe it'd be Hino? 

    Personally I'd like to get asplund off the bench in general, but as long as olofsson and mitts are here they're gonna play i think.  

    5 minutes ago, French Collection said:

    UPL and Comrie are likely the tandem next year. Comrie is signed for another year and he hasn’t had a proper look yet. He has stuff to learn from Andy as well.

    As much as I like NHL calibre depth, I think Hinestroza needs to be waived. He is not part of the future roster.

    When Joker returns, they gain a RHD, so Fitz can be waived.

    I think it will be an interesting trade deadline, the Sabres will not be sellers. There may be a hockey trade to improve depth and certain positions but I can’t see a sell off of 3-4 guys.

    Seems like no one has cap space too, so its going to be a limited market for rentals without moving stuff back.  That and everyone and their mother seems to have some level of NMC, NTC,M-NTC these days.  

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  8. 5 hours ago, matter2003 said:

    If I was the other team on the PK I would simply leave one guy dedicated to face-guarding Tage at all times and not let him set up the one timer.

    Playing with fire though giving up that much space to Dahlin.  You'd have to have your other 3 players trying to prevent cozens and skinner from cross crease dunks to tuch on the same side, and one wrong move sets up dahlin for a 1 timer in the slot.  

  9. 2 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

    Clague 6' 190#, Pilut 5'11 194#, Bryson 5'9" 176#. Power forwards can and should drive on them. They're all quick-to-fast, and classified in their drafts/prospects as the "puck-moving D" which has become shorthand for not so great in their own end, especially if the other team gets a cycle going.

    When one of those guys is #6 and paired with a Boushh or Power or Joker, (or even Dahlin or Muel as a double-shift for the top pair guy) they'll probably be fine. You can deploy them properly and manage their minutes. When all 3 are in the lineup (and Muel/Boussh are out) that's where we've seen it become an issue.

    Clague is 24 with fewer than 82 NHL games played. The NHL game is still slowing down for him. He can be a #6 guy with the right #5 partner, but is best served as the #7-8. He's also a 1st round pick so the skill level is likely there.

    Who do we want Clague to maybe become? Probably Joker. Jokiharju has shown some fantastic breakout passes, some smooth low-event play, and is a PMD with the same susceptibilities as these lighter guys: he'll get overpowered. Give Joker the right partner and maybe someday he goes from a 5/6 to a 3/4 with veteran savvy and a bit more mass as he fills out (I still think he can be a Lydman-type when he hits age 27). Clague could be the same, although already probably closer to his max playing weight/strength. Next season, if Joker is your 5/6 and Clague is a 7/8, that's fine. You just want your other 7/8 guy to be of the more defensive variety with shot blocking and reach and board battling as key attributes.

    Seems about right - He seems a natural fit next to Lybushkin.  

     

    Just now, Pimlach said:

    I learned to spell his name right, Clague, not Clagge.  

    Is he good?  Well, the eye test says is holding his own.  He is averaging over 16 mins a game so DG is trusting him.  He is +2, even with the bigger workload (yes, small sample size).

     

    I think our defense grades like this:

    1. Dahlin

    2. Samuelsson

    3. Power 

    4. Joker

    5. Boosh

    6.  probably Bryson but he carries a team worst -15 (I place him here by looking at minutes to see what DG thinks).

    7. Clague  (pretty quickly earned minutes and he is the only "plus" guy in the bottom group)  

    8. Fitz (just got passed by Clague)

    9.  Pilut (he had a good game against LV but the least trusted by DG in terms of minutes played)  

     

    Just add a solid veteran RHD to spot 3/4 and move Joker to the 5/6 pair with Boosh and we get so much better.  

     

    Joker and power have played well together when joker has been available.

    Dahlin and Sammy seem to have some chemistry as a pair of lefties and make it work. 

    The remaining guys just... Bryson has played freaking terrible this year, but he's also had 0 consistency.  Clague stunk it up at first but hes finding his way.  Fitzgerald is bad, and no one can convince me otherwise.  Pilut can pass and seems a good skater but he can't get the puck out of the zone consistently and seems to second guess when to pressure people at the blue line - he also seems to have that same power allergy to shooting :-).   

  10. 22 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

    he is A goalie, I doubt very much if he will ever be THE goalie. 

    He was noticeably huge when i sat behind the net a few weeks ago.  You cannot teach that kind of size, he just needs to figure out how to use it better and just generally how to play with more ownership.  Dictate what you want people to do - it takes time.  It's like catching in baseball - you can hit well and teams won't put you behind the plate if you can't call a game for the pitching.  There's communication, there's reps, there's just... learning that speed.    

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  11. 4 hours ago, LPJets16 said:

    Some incredibly dumb comments here.  "KA put all his eggs in 1 basket?"  There are 3 other recently drafted goalies from 2nd and 3rd rounds plus Comrie.  That's 5 baskets for anyone who can count.

    "KA bet his entire rebuild on waiting for Levi."  Really? Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Krebs, Tuch, Thomson plus 5 more 1st rounders in the pipeline are all just incidental to the rebuild and are waiting for Levi?  Get a grip!

    Hey now, we're all friends here.  

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  12. 7 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

    Back when I managed X00 million dollar projects, I learned not to rely on any one metric.   I looked at a lot of data, some was more effective in early stages, some mid stream in the project, and some when we were closer to completed.   

    Sometimes you have to blend data from multiple sources.  Sometimes you have to walk around and ask a bunch of people WTF is really going on?   

    Bottom line is don't use one single metric, look at everything.   

    Different players need different metrics too.  

    I don't need an xGF metric to see what my eyes tell me in that tage has a nasty shot, and some dirty dangles.  He can shoot, create space, and deke the goalie.  Thats a star player.  

    But if you wanted to evaluate Krebs, or Mittelstadt utilizing analytics.  This is a nice piece of data to have them digest when they re-watch their games.  Your xGF is low because... your corsi is low because... and what pieces of your game you can improve upon to clean it up.  

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  13. 11 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

    I'm not saying much against analytics here, as I think they are useful, I just don't like when they are overused (such as someone posting a chart about a player that has more blue than red and saying they are good because of it).  But what I am going to say, maybe Analytics is just better at noticing it than the 'guys' who only care about the eye test.....

    To me, you didn't need super fancy advanced stats to tell you he was bad.  When the non-stat guys were saying he was good becasue he 'hits' or looks good skating, they were only looking at what they wanted to see instead of opening their eyes to 'modern hockey'.  This is the one thing I started to look at with him about 3 years ago and it became very noticable with the 'eye' test alone, if you were looking for the right thing:

    -He just took himself out of the plays too often.  One only had to look at goals he was on the ice for and watch the replays.  He would chase someone into a corner and deliver a hit...only to have the puck go back to where he COULD/SHOULD have been had he not chosen to make that hit there and a goal was scored from the spot he vacated.  Even worse, there were many, MANY plays that myself (and others) pointed out here where someone scored a goal and Risto had his back turned to the shooter and the puck while 5 feet away or less because he wanted to chase someone into the corner.  Other times he was in the process of cross checking a player in front of the net, when if he chose to not do so he could have had his stick on the ice and poke checked the puck away from an eventual goal scorer.

    These aren't things that you had to reach to see, they were very very obvious.  All he had to do in order to become a good D-man was to be a lot pickier about when to hit someone, and to pay more attention to where the puck was rather than trying to figure out who is the closest guy to him he coudl cross check. He never learned that here, and apparently isn't learning it in Philly either.

    There has to be a middle ground in terms of analytics and the 'eye test' guy, isn't there?  A guy who can look at what analytics tells you, and then instead of just accepting it they TAKE that data and look (using the eye test) for hockey reasons why the numbers are the way they are?  

    Offensively, he could shoot a little.  He can't be useful on a PP though because he was a giveaway machine.  His stretch passes constantly hit people in the skates, or miss them entirely.  And he was always reacting to where people ARE not where they are going to be, or where he thinks they should be.  Just too reactionary.  

    Defensively, a lot of the same problems.  No trust in his teammates or pairing, constantly chasing, and doesn't put pucks where they should be going.  He holds it too much in the zone, chases hits, etc.  

    0 Points is Lybushkin level though.  This means he isn't shooting (27 shots in 26 games would mean a career low pace), and the stretch passes are coming from his line mate.  I think he's playing with Provorov so that makes some sense - Provorov is a better passer and shooter.  

  14. 2 minutes ago, SHAAAUGHT!!! said:

    Hopefully we start getting d-men back so we don’t risk another slide.  Boosh is a great 5/6 d-man on this team, but Power is 23min a night and I don’t want to rely on  Pilut/Fitz/Bryson/Clague long-term to cover those minutes. 

    Clague has looked a lot better with more reps, but Pilut/Fitz/Bryson don’t inspire confidence when they are forced to play over 14min a game.
     

    Bryson is caught out of position too much.  Fitz seems a touch slow, and his stick always seems to fall out of his hands. 

    Pilut isn't a great defenseman at taking the puck away, but he moves it OK for the most part.  He was better in this one at challenging forwards a bit more on zone entry.  He at least seems to be the best fit from a style perspective.  

    Just now, JohnC said:

    The Mule is such a smart player for someone so young. He is not dazzling like Dahlin or regularly carries the puck into the offensive zone like Power does. He simply efficiently gets the puck out of his zone. His hockey instincts are exceptional. He reads and reacts to plays as well as some of the top tier defensemen in the league. Although he isn't what I would call a banger, when it is required he is capable of driving the player he is covering through the boards. He is a genuine top pairing player. Already, I consider him an anchor player for us. 

    The key i think to him and dahlin working together so well is - it isn't just one of them that plays on their off side exclusively.  They fluidly kind of move to either side and both play each side pretty well.  

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  15. 3 hours ago, inkman said:

    Paul Hamilton has repeatedly mentioned this week on WGR that the Sabres are out of the playoff race due to the losing streak?  Is it even true?  Do they have no realistic chance to make up the ground?  Didn’t the Blues win the cup after being in last place in December?  

    Only way they can is if they make up the ground with an equally long winning streak, especially against Eastern conference opponents ahead of them in the standings.  

  16. 1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:

    I understand Cozens may get the puck out of the zone better because of his 'aggressiveness' and the Analytic heat map may show that.  But the flip side of that is when he IS in the wrong postion, it tends to be very costly.  Again, I'm not sure what the heat map you are referencing is showing...but what I do feel is that if he would stay in his position better (like Tage or Mitts), less great scoring chances (and goals against) would be the result.

    I notice it with Tage zone exits sometimes too though - 2 guys going for the puck and neither of them seems to want it.  And i know the answer is they're trying to get open for a pass... it makes sense.  They just occasionally bungle it into a scoring chance against, and good teams don't do that nearly as frequently as buffalo.  It's system, and chemistry.  You vacate a space to do something, assuming your teammate will fill, and they don't.  

  17. 20 hours ago, Doohickie said:

    I thought Clague has for the most part played well.  Better than some of our top 6 D in recent years.  I think Kevyn didn't just sign random available Dmen over the summer; they were probably scouted and selected based on analytics as potential NHL Dmen, knowing that the cupboard was a little bare.

    At some point forwards will get dinged up and need a few games off.  Nice to think the replacement is someone of Hinestroza's level.

    Hayden Bjork and Eakin.  Played like 150 games for the sabres last year.... 2 are in the AHL, and one is in... Switzerland?  Throw in some more games for Jankowski, Murray, Caggiula.  The amount of pure AHL talent that played here last year is a bit stunning.  

    Sheahan is in Rochester who i like more than everyone else above.  Not to mention Hinostroza.

    People will get banged up but I'm interested to see where people slot in during those absences.  

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