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On 5/28/2025 at 5:50 PM, 7+6=13 said:
I'm in agreement. I'm not saying he has no value, but I don't think he can be traded. We'd have to give up picks and or prospects to get someone to take on his contract, IMO
maybe you can trade him, but he's not an asset - he's either there to make a money acquisiton fit in a multiple team deal, or he's dumped to a team with lots of space who's rebuilding.
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3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection44 said:
I'd rather trade JJP and Power (and a prospect) in a Robertson deal.
Is that not feasible?
Powers contracts too high to move, and they couldn't sign byram either. They're pretty much needing ELC contributors and a big piece to replace Robertson.
I'm not sure they move him this year though - Moving dumba and lyubushkin can save them 7M, they can probably move lundkvist's RFA tender for an ELC forward.
Next year i think there's more urgency to trade him as both him and Harley are coming up and with rantanen's deal in place i don't know how you can pay two wingers 24M and roster a team.
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On 6/17/2025 at 9:59 PM, Mr Peabody said:
Not necessarily sticking up for Mule, but if he jumps in and gets his a$$ kicked does that make TT feel any better? Fire up the team? The problem is roster makeup. Size doesn’t equal toughness or grit on this team. I actually feel for Tuch when he feels obligated to jump in and do something he’s not very good at.
It's about brotherhood - and when that happens it really makes everyone your commitment to your team. The franchise, the leadership, the coaching - there are problems with every aspect of that. But you're on the ice, with your boys, and one got absolutely wrecked with a cheap shot and you just looked around confused? What does that have to do with TP, KA, Lindy? You should WANT to fight for your guy, and you shouldn't need a billionaire or his puppet to tell you to do that.
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Just now, Eleven said:
I love it but I don't know (and do not feel like looking up) whether the three Dallas players besides Robertson have NMCs.
https://puckpedia.com/team/dallas-stars
Wyatt Johnston doesn't have one, neither does Oettinger (yet, his triggers after this season i believe). Rantanen, Seguin, Hintz, Heiskanen and now Duchene all do.
But 22 year old 2-way centers who score 30 goals usually don't get traded. Oettinger could be a target to get cheaper, but he's one of the best goalies in the league. Harley could potentially move, but at 23yo and 4M averaging 50 points on the blue line - he again feels like a building block more than a trade chip.
Marchment has a M-NTC so he's not a sabres target, but he can be moved. I'd assume they move robertson or oettinger in separate deals. We have pieces that they could use - Levi in an oettinger deal for example, and cost controlled young forwards who are NHL-ready(ish).
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4 minutes ago, inkman said:
You mean how Rangers fans wouldn’t give up Kakko or Laff for Eichel. Yeah I’m done with that too.
Instead of Kakko being the key piece in an eichel trade, they got borgen and some late picks. Laff is also now getting 7+ aav and playing like cozens.
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1 hour ago, Weave said:
The sound of truthi-ness.
Helenius seems like he might be our top prospect right now. But he’s still a big unknown. There is value in moving an unknown for a known quantity, especially when success has been so hard to find.
It would have to be for a substantial player, but moving even our top prospects needs to be on the table right now.
Agreed. Drafting him made it easier to move savoie (in addition to kulich just lapping him during development. Norris being so injury prone also gives me pause on moving probably the top non-NHL center.
He was also the youngest player in the AHL last year, so he likely projects to be a year away. As it stands today though, the only center keeping him in the AHL is krebs.
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Just now, Palm Trees And Taxes said:
The only way I am dealing Helenius is in a package for a player like Jordan Kyrou or Jason Robertson
Agreed - bring me a superstar and every prospect is available.
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1 minute ago, Archie Lee said:
Good thing we aren’t trading Benson for Rust.
If anyone has access to the Athletic’s player cards, they rank Rust as a +7 overall (Benson a +2, Peterka a +4). They have Rust’s contract value at $1.5 million higher than his actual $5.125 AAV. Their summary makes clear he is not great defensively.That said, I am not big on a Helenius for Rust or Rakell trade. Quinn, Rosen, and a 2nd? Sure. But as we are plagued by the same things that plagued the Sabres in the Eichel, O’Reilly, Reinhart days (a bad GM and a bad HC), I prefer we hold on to our best future assets out of hope that Pegula gets lucky with his next GM/HC hirings.
My worst fears may be unfolding. Our near historically bad GM is about to trade our best future assets in a desperate attempt to save his job.
I don't like moving helenius because he actually profiles as a middle-six center. Seeing the scarcity and difficulty acquiring two-way centers makes it tough to want to move him.
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1 hour ago, Mustache of God said:
We really have to wait until the draft / free agency peak is concluded to see if there's any generated excitement surrounding the team. They would have to be making some significant moves to be moving the needle. Keeping Adams around after 5 years of failure has to be hurting the bottom line.
I moved back to Buffalo 5 years ago and I would love to start getting a 10 game package or something, but that's not going to happen until the team isn't a perennial trash fire.There's just no reason to justify it. I'd rather just decide the week or even day of and say "I want to go to a game". Ok great, it'll be cheaper if you wait and if they suck again you aren't stuck going to meaningless games that you overpaid for.
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Just now, LGR4GM said:
Byram is the 35th highest scoring defender in the NHL this past year with basically 0 pp time and he's only worth a late 1st round pick? If that's the case we should trade a late first for Brock Faber. I'm being sarcastic but wtf are we doing here?
I think the challenge i see is the limited suitors - like truly how many teams need a player like him? With the state of this franchise I assume buffalo is a no on most peoples trade destinations, so you have to let some of the roster chips fall around Buffalo before they can try and make a player trade here.
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1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:
Dallas has no draft comp to offer
Sorry, i meant from buffalo - instead of say JJP+Rosen+9, its Tuch+Rosen+Östlund - 2 close to ready prospects in lieu of the 9th pick since Tuch either needs to be extended or is UFA.
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2 minutes ago, Jorcus said:
A late first for Byram makes no sense in isolation. They might as well wait for an offer sheet and if that does not come you just pay him for another year or 2. Once an offer comes in above 4.7 you get a first and a third. It won't be this years but chances are it will be a mid to late round 1st. I really can't see Adams not getting a player back in a deal. He has been saying that all along.
But then you're hanging onto an asset because you aren't getting the offer you want, and limiting what you can build from a roster perspective. If you've decided on power, move byram to a team that will accomodate his contract demands. A 1st round pick is a trade asset - gives you a first back if you move #9, or trade ammo to try and find a RHD.
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1 hour ago, shrader said:
I can't get past the playoff performance from that Benn-Duchene line. Where that team is right now, they should be targeting playoff performance and it was lacking with those guys. In that front offices shoes, I'd say it is time to move on.
Thats fair - i just wonder how much more you're going to get from bottom of the barrel agents. Like if the replacements are sam lafferty with half his contract... uhh you're gonna have a bad time.
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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:
I don't think Tuch makes sense. They'd still have to sign him next summer which is the big problem.
I think he's the today replacement at a lower cost - maybe less draft comp and another closer to NHL ready guy in the return.
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9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
It's why I think a Peterka trade could work. They basically sign jjp for 7.25 and it covers having to worry about Robertson next year. They'll need to move some more this year but they want to keep that window open and Peterka at least gives them decent production.
To shed any payroll they have to move Robertson or Oettinger. Johnston i suppose could be an option, but most teams keep young centers more than wingers. Seguin, Hintz, Heiskanen, and Seguin have full NMC's so they're all likely out on a trade.
Rantanens already among the highest paid wingers in the league. I don't think it makes sense to then extend robertson and then have the two most expensive wingers in the league.
Working JJP under is challenging, probably requires Dumba be included, and maybe a 3rd team for Lyubushkin. It's why it might make more sense for it to be Tuch - with rosen/Östlund, probably this years 1st, and probably next years 1st (maybe you can throw a lottery top 3 protection on it).
Nuclear option would be they move both Robertson and Oettinger - and then definitely need a 3rd team to accommodate some of the other pieces that would need to be included while getting dallas NHL ready prospects, cheaper contracted players, and a goalie. Like Dallas doesn't need Byram, but what buffalo gets for byram, plus the above trade, plus levi... etc. Buffalo would need to shed UPL somewhere too. The amount of moving parts would be insane. The stuff madden dreams are made of 🙂
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16 minutes ago, shrader said:
There's a whole lot of years in that list of UFAs. I know they'll want to keep some experience around, but it shouldn't be too hard to move on from maybe even 3 of them. Granlund might still get some decent money, but the rest are at that stage where if they want to win, they should be signing team friendly deals. I completely understand if they want to chase the dollars instead though.
Duchene averaging a PPG is probably driving the price out of their range imo so he's probably gone. Benn's 35, and a different player than they had paid so I'd think he can be had for a team-friendly deal. Granlunds tough because they used a lot of capital to bring him and Ceci in, and he seemed to mesh with Rantanen. Ceci is also a free agent, but i suppose dumba replaces him with his return from injury.
As it stands without those guys they only have 5M in cap space, with Lundkvist (I don't really know whats going on with him) and Bourque yet to pay.
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17 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
I just assumed they were moving him because they cant afford to pay him 12M AAV after 25-26. Benn is the captain and a UFA, Duchene wears an A and is a UFA, then you also have Dadonov and Granlund.
You can't (and shouldn't) keep all of them, but both Robertson and Harley come up in 2026 and Seguin doesn't come off until 2027 so somethings gotta give. Otherwise they're going to struggle to ice a competitive back half of the roster.
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1 hour ago, Mr. Allen said:
“Rangers Reportedly in 'Advanced Discussions' on Chris Kreider Trade with Ducks”
Would this be more of a cap dump situation for the rangers?
Most likely - they got his 15 team no-trade and made some calls.
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10 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:
This is a STRONG hot take. My initial reaction is that we know guys who the Sabres have moved on from when they were young (Eichel, Reino, Montour, etc) prior to their full maturity has been premature. I would qualify moving on from Peterka right now to be in the same vein.
I’m not in the room so I don’t know what Peterka’s mindset is…but I’m not moving on from a projected 30G 70+PT guy at 23. This may be his baseline. That’s valuable.
If it was a foregone conclusion that JJ’s production is easily replaceable then perhaps I could hop on board. But I am assuming JJ’s age 27 season could be elite RW1 results. He has work to do to be a complete player, but this is a prime opportunity to lock in a player who will blossom into that. First line players are not a gimme.
Perhaps it is time to invest into a young guy we know (Tage contract as an example) versus creating space for guys you referenced as an opportunity to develop (Östlund, Rosen, perhaps Kulich).
To me, JJP is player you invest in versus a player with talent that you move on from based on current value. But that’s just me.To me, if JJP is moved then it's gotta be the big piece in a hockey trade. He has more value than Byram - who probably has a smaller list of suitors due to the nature of his game. There isn't a team in the league who doesn't listen to a call for a 30G winger.
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3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Stop for a second. This doesn't thin out the roster. Moving out Kulich's potential for Robertson's actual, is not thinning out the roster.
I think it's absurd to call a trade of Kulich Östlund and 9 for Robertson "thinning out the roster"
Also injuries as an excuse not to do something is loser talk. You have no control over that and worrying about it means you're making moves based on fear.
yeah... I'll worry about the center after i add the 100 point player.
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16 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:
Mmmk. But he's over .500 for his career so expecting to lose more than win if he's in net for 30 games, is at least not supported by the numbers.
71-65-15. Is that even a winning record when you factor in that overtime losses are still losses? An absolute winner who rode one stretch of good hockey in 2023-2024 to a big paycheck.
22 goalies started 50+ games in 2024-2025 - UPL had the worst SV%, GAA, GSAA, and GPS. There's like 2 goalies who had worse seasons that i can even see - Ersson & Georgiev. If were stuck with him, so be it - but he should not be a part of the "plan".
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16 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
Rossi allegedly wants 7 yrs 49 million. Minn offering 5 yrs 25 mill.
Rossi is 23 with 101 pts in 185 NHL games. He went 24g 36a for 60 pts in 82 games. He’ll be 24 starting next season.
Peterka is 23, and won’t turn 24 until next January. He has 150 pts in 234 games including 27g 41a last season.
F - Rossi. Keep and pay JJP and find D help.
Rossi's a center, they make more money than wings.
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15 hours ago, ponokasabre said:
I think there is no way Dallas says no to that, its just can we get him to waive.
And honestly Quinn could flourish in Dallas. But I dont care, we need Marchment here, then you use 9 and prospects to bring in a D man, and still maybe move Byram for a different type of D man
Marchment has a M-NTC so... its not Dallas you have to convince.
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10 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:
Why?
Probably that 13 game losing streak where he started 9 games did it for me. Cratered the season, and he didn't play very well for long stretches in the season. 16 starts with a sv% below .850. He's one of the worst starters in the league.
4 hours ago, tom webster said:Dahlin prefers the right side.
Easier to shoot as a lefty on the right, but it makes it more challenging defensively since you're clearing the walls with backhands (or an extra step to get it to your forehand).
Time to trade Peterka
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It's a tough trade to build. Probably requires a 3rd team since none of the players are going to waive a clause to come to buffalo. They have a few pieces that Buffalo could be interested in - Geekie, Raddysh, Moser, and Lilleberg. All of those guys are cheap though, so to make the dollars work it needs a 3rd team. For buffalo since 2 of those guys are lefties, it probably requires someone also to take on samuelsson.