Scottysabres

I know. I was reading the boards for a bit before joining. I don't believe my response to eleven was alluding to that however. The thread title is "keep or trade Evander Kane". I'm in the trade him only if it returns the "right" asset(s) corner.

Are we? Working on cold fusion that is. And so if Kane wasn't the leading goal scorer then we could broach the trade subject? Appears to be a definitive line in the sand by that standard. What if Okposo gets a hat trick tomorrow, would that be the threshold that opens the proverbial flood hates to a "possibly trading kane to upgrade the D" conversation?

I'm looking at the defensive weakness from the stats posted, the current team record, how they ended up with some pivotal losses on that record and the seasonal individual performances/play of defensemen during the totality of the current record.

Agree. Except wasn't it recently reported Gio is staying......

How? You have to give to get. What other ammo do you see in the ammo locker that achieves the desired goal? Trade the RW pipeline? Meaning Bailey, Baptiste or Fasching? Cause were empty on the left.

They won! Alright. ........ On to the next one boys.

Just win boys! Taresanko is such a sniper

Kid showed promise early on, wonder what happened. In any event, another right winger that shoots righty. Murray should pick him up just to be an AHL filler?

Wonder what the lines will look like tonight.

Baptiste called up

Players go through stretches of good and bad. I do agree with in that defense is frustrating this team. But as others have pointed out, 0 depth is all bad, and as I have pointed out (along with many others), not addressing the issue and letting it try to play out for self or internal improvement is most certainly taking its toll on Risto, the stud defenseman. While Kane scores, and yes scoring was a prime issue early season, he also brings the value necessary to address this.

I'll agree to disagree.

No one is advocating that Kane be used in such a manner. The truth is right there, for all to see. And you have seen it. Risto needs help, it's been stated repeatedly and it is correct.

People need to start looking at the Kane situation rationally. Put aside the trade scenarios (including my fun time) that are pipe dreams. Start thinking about the team. Risto needs help, desperately. Forget the RHD for McCabe and the second pairing for a moment. Risto needs real help, and you all know it. You all watch the games, we have all watched as he gets burned out. Kane is a real opportunity to address that. I don't know who or what that type of deal would look like, but each of you know he's the value that could seal a deal. If a partner for Risto can be had by moving Kane, you do it and don't think twice about it. You all know, even the die hard keep Kane fans, that I speak the truth.

Thanks

How's Baptiste look? And is Fasching playing?

Understand, I am not advocating keeping Fluery, and as I pointed out earlier, those of you expecting to ride a goalie strategy for success, it's been tried here in Buffalo, more than once, unsuccessfully. I'm just looking at defense and an asset allocation.

These are valid questions. I would surmise based only on what I am hearing from some penguins fans they aren't sold on Murray. They did express great interest in Lehner though. And Fluery does not need to he protected, its a modified NTC / NMC. Under the ED rules you don't have to protect modified contracts.

Fluery has a modified NTC/ NMC where he will list 18 teams to be traded to.

Why? Ullmark is doing just fine.

You mean Dubnyk of the Minnesota Dubnyk's? The same Dubnyk who wasn't putting up those numbers until a world class in their prime defense was put in front him Dubnyk? Defense matters, and Minnesota had one hell of a defense. Buffalo, not so much. And until that changes, I expect we'll see inconsistency in the end result for Lehner as well. We've been down the ride the goalie strategy before, it didn't work then, it won't work now. We need defense desperately.

I am just throwing it out there as an idea. Whether it's good, bad or meh is the type of discussion I'd like to see where Kane is not involved. Just something different is all.

Trade Kulikov 4.33 aav, UFA, Lehner 2.23, RFA, Gorges 3.90 AAV (50% retained), 1 yr, Minnesota 2nd, Washington 3rd to Pittsburg for Maatta 4.083,333 aav, 5 yrs, Fluery 5.75 aav, 2 yrs and Pittsburg 1st. Keep Fluery exposed at expansion draft, protect Ullmark. We give them a fresh start at controlling net minder cost with a decent starter, and a defensive top 4 with a depth defender for both this seasons playoff run. We have the room to incur the 1.49 mil in added aav. I know Lehner won't be moved, but this deal looks close in value given the UFA status, depth positioning, Pittsburg cup run scenario and Expansion draft situation. That Pittsburg 1st could be used in another deal or pick it l. AMD if you notice, Kane is not involved....and this type of deal puts Ullmark in the spot light.

Maybe, maybe not. Just my opinion is all.

#notmygoalpost :D