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The culture of this organization was dead long before Kane or ROR were here to begin with. Their presence made 0 difference in it, that fact is bore out in the teams record while they were here. They are a red herring in my opinion, to a much larger problem, a problem that was here before Pegula bought the team imho. The Sabres weren't exactly tearing up the league before him either, he's just magnified the problem to it's lowest common denominator. Whether Reinhart stays or goes won't be relevant to fixing this mess, once again, imho. As I stated above, he doesn't have the killer instinct, the drive, and quite frankly, the talent to alter anything significantly here. And while it is true he may very well do much better in the right roster surroundings, the fact remains, the Sabres aren't going to get that surroundings without moving some pieces just like Sam to get there, imo. Mind you, I'm not a Reinhart hater, I'm just not a fan. To me, he's a Meh player, nothing more, nothing less. Very replaceable imo.

Sums it up right here...……………...

This dogma of "actual talent" is a fallacy based on Sam's draft position imho. He's shown nothing in the form of killer instincts, and I mean, nothing. Confusing talent with drive, motivation, going 100% on the ice 100% of the time is what is leaving this team well to the bottom of the standings. Pimlach is correct, the culture needs to be "your in Buffalo, ***** or we'll pull you off the pot and replace you with someone who will". Reinhart doesn't have what is needed here in Buffalo, once again, imho.

Just remember, it's not the team, it's the ownership/management that is the problem. They put this crap on the ice, for the better part of 5 years + now. They are that bad unfortunately.

Not gonna happen. If he had it in him, he'd of shown it by now imo. He'd make a great trade piece however. Because honestly, this team still needs a complete over-haul save 2 to 4 roster players.

Problem is, we don't have anyone willing to inflict pain well, that's the game right there.

Like a train wreck in slow motion, I'll watch and hope it doesn't derail. Go Sabres!

Admittedly I'm only going off of what I've seen when he plays the Sabres, he just looks like he has a pep in his step against us. Then again, your reminding me just how many players look better against our Sabres. ?

I'd bring in Patrick Kane for sure if it were possible. But, coming back down to earth a bit I would like to see some size/energy and/or speed added to the line up. My realistic targets for bottom 6, Galchenyuk out of Pitt and Wood out of Jersey. Both are energy type guys. Shouldn't remotely break the bank for either/both. As for the 2C and 2RW, ?????? Looking for input there.

That's one hell of tweaker - whiskey bender were sending Bowman on lol

So, how much should Botterill consider cutting away from the team mid season? That seems to be a question that needs to be asked. Contrary to popular belief or opinion, the Sabres could move some roster assets I would surmise. Sheary, Bogo, Scandella, Risto, Reinhart, one of Girgensons or Larsson, E-Rod and yes, even Hutton could be moved. Obviously the returns aren't going to be as palatable as fans would like, but at the end of the day, when all is said and done, this team needs more than just a shake up imo. It needs muscle, to protect the skill, it needs additional skill, it needs a PK specialist or 2, it needs another netminder with some up tick in stable play, it needs a 2nd line center and, to me in any event, most important of all, it needs size players with energy and grit. One more item, I even hate saying it, but, something that I've felt for some time, but if the ownership and management of this team don't address the situation, how much longer before Jack decides to bale? Honest question considering the first 5 years of his career appear to have been completely wasted, and Jack is a competitor that I am more than sure would like to win. Just a question that I ponder more often than not this past year or so. The organization as a whole, in my view, based on product entertainment value and performance over these past 5 years, is a complete and utter failure overall imo.

I completely agree with you on the hockey trade scenario. I also agree with Krupp, I watched a good bit of Reinhart this evening, and some other games this season, he is a floater for a good portion of games. Not something this team needs nor can afford to allow imo.

I'm just going to straight out say it...……………..I've seen more than enough, Jason Botterill's plan is a complete failure. Win, Lose, it wouldn't have mattered tonight. There are just an awful lot of problems to address with this roster, some self inflicted, some lack of action and some pre existing. But it is painfully obvious this organization will continue to waffle in to obscurity until the roster is properly addressed. 2.5 years is ample time to begin to see results, imho.

If I was Eichel I would have dropped them instantly and upper cut his ass.

Par for the course with the "Pegula" Sabres it seems.

Sabres getting out hustled and out muscled for the most part...……...

I don't think it'll take Middlestadt to get it done, just my view though. He's Swedish, so there's that. Outside of what I see on some highlight videos and nhl.com, elite prospects I really don't see anything that stands out to warrant grabbing him. His face off % isn't noteworthy, atleast, that I can see. Anyone have anything on the potential for this kid?

A Sabres not named Eichel scored..... Scouts! SCOUTS!!!!

Same here. My first weekend since early November without a forced overtime day. Shop till I drop day I'm calling it lol

Just based on what I've seen of Middlestadt in the NHL, the kid isn't going to he much more than a 3rd/4th liner, if that. I just don't see him figuring it out. Is that maturity, is it just needed development? I don't know. But I don't see him in Buffalo any longer than a call up stint or 2.

Sorry Nitro, but I chuckled. At 50 I'm asking myself that seriously lol.

Pain is addicting...……...lol

Who?

Jack could care less what Sam is going to do. Jack Eichel doesn't need Sam Reinhart, Sam Reinhart needs Jack Eichel. We're talking about a top 10 league wide player here that is looking at the first 10 years of his career meaning nothing. Sam isn't even in his thought process when it comes to that.

82 a season? Hell, I seriously doubt he's here following next season. The reality is he's going to force a trade. I mean think about it, 5 years, 5 years of your career completely wasted due to poor management, with no end in sight and not even serious attempts to fix it. I don't see Jack here past next season, sorry, but Botterill or whoever is not fixing this by next year, it's that bad.