PerreaultForever

Is it time for payback on Draisaitl now? I expect shenanigans.

Well to be fair..............we have to wait until we hit free agency and also see if they make any trades over the summer before deciding on this. Ruff is an improvement and he knows how to win but we don't know if this team will respond to his messages. Adams has to give him the pieces he needs to be successful. We shall see what happens and I will decide if I agree with you in October.

This is basically the same line up we ended the season with and you're saying Ruff will just roll out the same lines as Granato? I certainly hope that this is not what happens. This line up will not win.

Well of course the league is mostly first rounders. The odds of making the league go way down as each round continues but finding guys outside the first round and finding role players who work hard and earn there way into the league is how you take the next step.

Which is why my trade suggestion was for Eriksson Ek AND Foligno together. That changes the conversation from their perspective, and we could still get value (and leadership) from Foligno even though there is declining value in terms of his contract. People talking about what if Kulich outplays Kane etc. is a non issue and I fail to see the problem. If it were to happen, GREAT. Now we can trade somebody for another player we need. Trade 2 guys for 1 even. Sit Skinner in the press box. More options. Ruff has greater freedom to sit guys who don't perform. There is absolutely ZERO problem with having more good hockey players than you need. ZERO. You guys have just forgotten what it's like to be a real hockey team with actual depth.

Based on his actual value I'd say he owes them 1.5 million from last year so if he wants to sign a negative dollar contract happy to have him back. Otherwise let him go to Philly (they just signed some young Latvian, they can do vodka shots together on road trips).

Benson. Sometimes Tuch. Occasionally Greenway. Once in a while Clifton. Cozens did, but he's been soft as hell since he got his face punched. Maybe Peterka and Dahlin occasionally as well .

It's a general possibility is all I'm saying so why do it? Remember Taylor Hall? Couldn't get the money he wanted so he came here on a short term deal and screwed us. It happens. Stamkos already has cups so I think all he wants now is cash.

Edmonton super lucky that was close. I mean that 2nd goal off an elbow, lol, that's puck luck. Perry all over Bobrovsky but can't phase him at all. The Edmonton D is caving under the forecheck. Kyle gonna get his cup.

It's a final contract. Do you really want a mercenary on a final contract? That's the first guy to quit if things get tough.

This is how my dominos of hope start to fall one by one...................

I agree with the sentiment but in no way can I see a guy like Stamkos coming here with some sort of motivation to drive this team forward. Kane I can imagine because of his childhood connection but Stamkos wouldn't come here to lead, he'd just be here for the money. If his motivation is a cup there are better landing spots including staying where he is.

I've been saying 3 but 4 would be even better. Totally agree. Jobs need to be earned. No more developing kids in the NHL and just handing them spots or even reserving spaces.

Good deal for Carolina. He was one of the guys I would have targeted. This is the number Samuelsson should be playing at, not the one he got.

Well as I said, too soon to tell, and I think we agreed on the initial point that people claiming Forton has done some sort of great drafting job is kind of silly and most definitely not proven. I actually don't see anybody (at the moment) pushing for an NHL job. There are a few maybes, but they all have to take another step or two forward first.

Yes lots of first rounders. More than anyone else. We've traded for additional ones to the ones we've drafted, and yet we're still not in the playoffs. So I'm not sure I'd spin this as "hardly any room for anyone outside of the first round" unless we were a good team and already competing for the cup. There's tons of room on this roster if you ask me.

E-Rod "hating to lose" https://www.nhl.com/news/evan-rodrigues-lessons-from-past-teammates-paying-off-for-florida-panthers That's the Shorsey refrain I was talking about earlier this year. Too many Sabres players and the general Sabres vibe under Granato was happy to win, but not enough of them hated to lose. Hopefully this changes under Ruff.

When you pick as high as we do and as often as we do with as many extra picks as we often have one would think we'd do better after our first rounders who are obviously highly rated and not that hard to choose. So far Peterka is the only one from the Adams era that has made the team. While it is too soon to tell I think saying he's drafted well is pretty silly.

I could see them moving Laine to Utah. I doubt they'd want Skinner. Waddell is not an idiot. I doubt anybody wants Skinner.

Really? I mean maybe, but I doubt it. I'm not sure any experienced GM, one with clout, would take a job in Buffalo anyway. The story on Waddell is he left Carolina because he was tired or owner meddling. We are the most meddled with team in the league.

I know you are joking, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Adams did this.

Oh heck no, at best Östlund is Tyler Ennis imo. I'm comparing Benson to Briere and I think @Scottysabres was too.

But Karmonos isn't a yes man (I don't think).

It will be interesting to see if they sit Okposo next game and dress Lomberg and/or Cousins. Florida is smart and disciplined though. They won't just go after him unless the game allows it. If it's a close game in Edmonton or they are ahead Florida will just stay the course.

I'm saying Pegula would do this and will do this (hoping we make the playoffs myself and so we never find out). He will only hire GMs that are yes men to him. There is no reason to think he'd change what he's already been doing.