PerreaultForever

So you're saying Sam and Jack are like Stamkos and Kucherov?

My memory is vague but didn't we win against Arizona late in the year, even though many fans in the stands were cheering for a loss?

I don't want you to be right, but I think this is true. My objection to that plan is that "development" has to also include winning. Or at least competing and feeling you have a chance to win. A hard working player watching a goalie like Dell let in everything at some point will start to think why am I breaking a sweat? They need to win the fans back as well. It's time, before they kill it completely.

Don't think they have ever been told to lose a game on purpose. Not necessary. The Pegula method is much simpler. Just don't have a goalie.

I, and you, and many others here certainly hope he does, but I don't think he will. This off season (and maybe earlier with the deadline) will tell us a lot about their actual plan and time line. We think it's high time to leap forward, they might think keep on tankin' for one more year. Will be determined by 1. Getting a decent veteran goalie 2. at least one solid RHD 3. other additions to fill out the roster We shall see.

What "serious"? He'll be fine. Just a hockey injury. Not like the guy has cancer or something. That'd be different. As for "trade value" you're joking right? Guy couldn't even crack our line up full time, who'd want him at even half that salary?

Yup, without a doubt. Been saying this since they got put together. Joker is NOT a top pairing D man and shouldn't be. We really really need to add a strong, good in his own zone RHD, ideally 2.

Oh yes, 3 million dollars for doing what he does (doesn't?) we should all feel so sorry for poor injured Will. Good riddance.

Now that's funny!

Will who?

"where" the pants? He lose them? Boy got to stretch and break down the scar tissue, that's the point. Not everything about fitness is in the weight room.

It's called humour. Check into it.

Do not ask if it was right to take Cozens over Zegras, better to ask why we didn't draft Tanner Jeannot instead of William Worge Kreu

lol, that is some crazy optimism. I applaud your hope. Thinking that every single one of these young guys will max out is pretty crazy but we should have some good young players and hopefully some leaders and stars that we can build an identity around. I think a comparison to Carolina might be more reachable. In the long run, optimistically I think Levi will be a Vezina candidate goalie. We don't have a Stamkos or a Kucherov right now though. Power, however, will be much better than Sergachev. As for Gourde, we don't have one right now, but we could use 2 or 3.

Reading the stuff above and going back to the surgeon this is what I was thinking right away. Would explain the awkward skating stride he had. I had one of these a few years back, and I'm no young pro athlete, but it was supposed to be all good in a few weeks but I got scar tissue messing with nerve endings and occasionally it still gives me a stabbing reminder it was there. Trapped nerves and similar aspects can happen to anybody with those though. If that's it he's going to have to take up yoga and get therapy and break that scar tissue down. As a young athlete I don't think it's a long term problem. If that's it.

Funny observation on that from the ESPN annnouncers. With Skinner as the man in front on the PP Lehner's head was a foot above Skinner's so he could see everything. Our coaches have some odd PP ideas imo. Anyway, back to Levi, he's the best of the 3 imo and although he should not be in the NHL next year the way this team goes with kids and goalies you never know.

Poker. slots. roulette?

Oh that was sad. So many mistakes, not worth going over them. Anderson also looked like the old has been he is so maybe that'll put a stop to the nonsense suggestions about him being our goalie next season. Just want to add one thing I thought of tonight. Over his Buffalo career Jack Eichel scored 355 pts. in 375 games so at this point in time Tuch has a better pts. per game average . We won the trade 🙂

That's true. There has to be a feeling of optimism and a solid progression. I'm hoping (as I'm sure everyone else here is) that this is the moment and next season we start rising and rising quickly. The timing is right.

For me that's the thing. I could be wrong about it, but he always came across to me as if he felt a sort of sense of entitlement. and when things went south he didn't take it on himself as a "leader." Naming him captain is what sunk us, I've always believed that and still do. The guys we had lacked a work ethic and lacked accountability. I doubt that's changed with Jack. The Vegas show will probably fuel that ego bigger but we finally get to see if he elevates in the playoffs. Maybe he will. Maybe he will be a different guy surrounded by that team. maybe he's older and wiser. But I doubt it.

I think the timing is right for ownership to make changes to dawn the new era. I don't think they will, they just assume it'll all be fine when they start winning (and it probably will be) but lessons could be learned from Vegas and Carolina. Make the place fun. More stuff for kids, families. More side entertainment. You throw a few bucks at it and you can make it an entertainment event, not just a hockey game.

This was mentioned to me a while back, maybe in the Eichel thread or around the nhl, but I think Paccioretti is still out indefinitely and could be put on LTIR if and when Eichel comes back. That's like $7 million right there. In essence Kucherov Max instead of Jack. I found Tuch's comment in the Buffalo News odd, but maybe Terry needs to pay attention to it. “And I’m really looking forward to seeing the look on some of our young guys’ faces.”’ We all know they created a good fun atmosphere there, but if the contrast is this extreme, maybe they need to find a way to change things locally a little more. Just give me another game of solid effort and compete from our side and I will be happy.

Without a doubt. AND if we do in fact start climbing and becoming a real team again while Vegas does not win the cup and in fact falters, well then lots of people will question him. Here's hoping.

I never said Reinhart wasn't skilled or talented. Never. What I always questioned was his heart, his desire, his leadership and the quit in him. He's a fair weather hockey player imo and it will be interesting to see if that has changed any come playoff time. Maybe had the Sabres surrounded Eichel and Reinhart with good veteran leadership things would have been different, but making those guys the leadership core was folly. The results speak for themselves. and Devon Levi will win the Vezina one day so it won't matter at all.

F Reinhart. He was paired with one of the best centers in hockey and couldn't get it done so who cares what he is doing now that he has a love for hockey.