PerreaultForever

You're not wrong, and the world has definitely changed. Back in my day I remember my first summer job in an office (Stelco in Hamilton) the place was filled with flirting, sexual comments, affairs at lunchtime, all kinds of comments and opinions that would get you fired in a heartbeat today. That's where I met Dave Andreychuk's dad, and man, some of the things he said!!!!!!!! All considered humour or acceptable in some form or other at the time. locker rooms in that era where far far worse. It was all just "boys will be boys" back then and Hockey culture has pretty much retained an element of that. They just hush it up better than most. So anyway, in today's world it's all changed and Hockey Canada has to change as well. I am certainly not against these kids being watched closely and chaperoned and so forth. A lot of them are thick as posts, dumb jocks, immature, and they need guidance well into adulthood. Absolutely. They won't like it though, and that's all I'm saying. So in the end I'm not sure where the money and the power fall into place. If you're a star prospect and you'll end up being a multi million NHL star are you going to step in line or are you going to do whatever you want? And considering all the money involved how motivated will they be to keep him in line? Or will they just work harder at covering anything that happens up? Money always rules in the end doesn't it?

I don't want to defend the guy (I've heard from reliable sources he's always been an arrogant a-hole) but the justice system is what it is and if a person is found not guilty we can't just go on believing what we want to believe. imo if he's good enough he should get an NHL shot. If we move into a world where any accusation leads to a conviction then pretty soon no young people will ever have sex again. Either that or they will have to sign nuptial contracts before every encounter.

Riiiiiiight..........cause he had that on his resume when they drafted him. Sure. Also, whether we want to believe it or not, there is a legal system, it went to trail, he was found not guilty. So he's not a rapist like it or not. Bunch of ex-Sabres on that world junior team remember. Pots calling kettles and all that.

I haven't had a Cinnabon in ages.

So to sum the article, it basically says don't tank and draft better. Since it's from a pro Detroit perspective it really just says don't make the mistakes the Sabres made. I think KA/The Sabres know they shouldn't make the mistakes the Sabres made as well. It just took them 10 years to realize it.

Oh I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good idea, it's just something that hasn't been done, they've been treated as free adults, like me and you, and I think there'd be push back from the players if they were not given freedom. The team or the members of the jury? Not sure what this means.

and? That doesn't mean anything unless they've played to a level where they demand a raise by NHL levels. There's plenty of cap room.

Not proven at the NHL level yet. If JJ bumps Asplund down to the 4th line so be it, but right now Asplund is one of the better 2-way players on the team and should be on whatever our top checking line is. As I've said elsewhere, I think Asplund-Kadri-Cozens could be a phenomenal 2 way line. If you don't add Kadri well, I guess Cozens stays at center and the winger is Vinnie or Kyle and the line is just meh, maybe, maybe not.

Oh I agree, there's always double speak these days and you can't trust anybody so he might just be saying it so that fans don't hate him for his year there and he doesn't look like a villain. He's smarter than Eichel 🙂 He at least doesn't hate the idea though. Calgary fans have to take that on faith at this point and hope. We, as a franchise, have to start winning so that players stop putting us on 10 team no trade lists.

On a semi related note, Virtanen just got off in his trial. Jury found him not guilty. As the story went the woman in question had a few memory lapses on events so Jake's lawyer stressed the "inconsistencies" and she hadn't fought back enough to convince the jury she wasn't a willing participant. In these cases, I suspect they will be even harder to "prove" with the time that's gone by, but that videotape is still the main piece of evidence.

The owner DID spend money in the past, and the team sucked, and then he hired KA and we became a cap floor team barely scraping together dead contracts to reach that floor so is he still a guy willing to spend? It's a valid question. There is no cap crunch coming. If Thompson has another good season he's in line for a solid payday. Nobody else has shown signs of getting a big contract yet. There's no crunch, and a Kadri deal could be structured to end around the time there might be a cap crunch which is in about 5 years. Not now.

The problem is at what age do you no longer need constant supervision and does that ever stop? I remember back when the Ben Rothlisberger rape thing came out there were a lot of Steelers fans asking why don't these guys have chaperones/drivers/whatever you want to call them keeping an eye on them and their "parties". Those were grown ass men. So I guess what I'm saying is their age is not an excuse. Calling them "YOUNG" just doesn't cut it. Rape is rape at any age and there's no excuse, none. Period. Full stop. That stuff just has to end. We all know there's been tons of it in the past and all kinds of disgusting hazing and other rituals and there is no excuse for any of it any more. It's 2022, and it's time for a reckoning.

Calgary might come out of this okay in the long run. Seems the players they got don't hate the idea of staying in Calgary, somewhat like the Eichel/Tuch scenario. https://www.nhl.com/news/flames-huberdeau-open-long-term-contract/c-335088508

Absolutely, and I'm sure many teams were/are leery of signing him for that very reason, but in our case it ultimately comes down to whether or not the owner is still willing to spend money to win. It appears he is not. I have no doubt it's very likely signing Kadri would in a strict sense be an overpayment. So depending on how you look at it, in a point per game calculation or something it might not be great value, BUT if he makes the TEAM substantially better and we win more games as a result then the money is well spent even if his numbers are not up to contract value. I personally think that would happen. A lot more wins. Remember, if you keep your top line as it was Thompson-Skinner-Tuch and they keep producing offense, you add Kadri as your #2 center along with maybe Cozens and Asplund(?) you have a really good two way shut down line that you can play against other teams top lines. Then you get to throw out some sort of high powered offense on a third line of say Mitts, Olofsson, Quinn or Krebs or whoever wins the job that gets favourable match ups and isn't struggling trying to be a #2 line. The roster is simply a lot better and it's a lot easier to match other teams strengths and weaknesses. In year 5 of his contract you might be overpaying a 4th line center, but ultimately that would also mean you're a real cup contender.

They're not ALL going to work out. That's unrealistic. If it happened, well great, too many good players what a dilemma . More likely some will be good, some will need more time, some will become marginal players or role players, and some will be AHL only. I really don't think we are overflowing just yet, more like just back to what is normal.

Krebs won't be moved for a few years even if he's not good because of the optics. He will get the longest and biggest chance to make his mark. But none of those 3 get moved any time soon imo. I still believe Girgensens and Okposo will be moved at the deadline if we are not in playoff contention. I know some of you want him as captain. I still think this though.

I know some people here hate the guy but it would be a smart move and make us a real contender imo. It would also signal to the league and other free agents next year that we are a serious team again. We have the cap space for sure. You spend big on him for 5 years and his deal expires right around the time you need your Power/Quinn/Peterka/whoever money. You bring in Kadri this year. Next year you add in Kane and a real goalie if Comrie doesn't measure up . Everything can change quickly and it can begin here. Past history however makes me think he's just using us as a negotiating ploy or a back up plan and at best it'll be another Taylor Hall situation.

Saw this crazy story about Riley Cote in Rolling Stone today. Fascinating read: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/psychedelics-brain-injury-sports-riley-cote-1367947/

Technically no, there isn't. Generally sexual abuse cases are not tried after 5 years and they are almost impossible to prove after lengthy amounts of time BUT there is no statute of limitations and since this is high profile and in the media spotlight charges are possible. I suspect that that would hinge on the videotape and if they have it though.

If your top pairing has Montour in it, you are NOT winning the cup. If that's their D, it's not just weak, it's absolute crap. Going to have to win games 7-6 and Bob gonna have to Bob around a whole lot.

Likely a combination of him asking for too much initially, teams went with plan B's, now virtually no cap space left among true contenders. So Avs and everybody else might be looking to clear cap space, but his price probably also has to come down.

I remember way back when they were bought by the Knox's around 1980 if I remember correctly they were certainly committed to making them a winner and they were generally a very good team in the 1980s. Of course the Sabres were a better team as well so that sort of thing always goes hand in hand. I think the idea is right though. You have to teach team first and hard work ethic and winning culture and all that stuff at every stage so you can't neglect the farm. Right now I think the cupboard WAS so bare Rochester became a "least of our concerns" kind of thing and it'll only improve as the Sabres improve and they have young perhaps NHL ready players who simply have no roster spot (yet) so they will stay down there longer. When you have that both teams should be winning. When we get to that point, I think the GM needs to make sure he has added that smattering of depth veterans to fill out that Rochester roster so that they are really competitive. So ya, let's bring back the '80s, only this time no mullets 🙂

I read Bjorkstrand had another of those 10 team no trade contracts. I suspect these are what's holding up any number of these type of moves and probably limiting Adams ability to make a similar move. Buffalo, along with most of the other crap teams with cap room, are probably all on no trade lists.

Exactly what I've been saying they can and should do. This is a great pick up for Seattle. There are still some other teams with cap troubles. Hopefully he's talking to at least some of them and we do something similar.

Florida's now over too. Probably try to dump Hornqvist?