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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=349LLDpOtyE

no, the point is that there’s zero evidence that GMs were hopping for joy because Botterill didn’t pick a CHL player. Otherwise you would see a much higher number.

The GMs who picked immediately after Botterill in those 3 drafts picked a CHL player 3/18 times. You're just angry to be angry.

Peters gets ejected, suspended, and fined for making a silent golf swing on a face off. Kadri swears up a storm in personal attacks and that's ok? lolol

Sabres lost their half decent goalie and the team looks like crap. 5 goals on 13 shots... Remember, the Stanley cup champions were LAST PLACE HALFWAY THROUGH THE SEASON LAST YEAR when they switched away from the goalie who was BETTER than Hutton to someone else, and a coaching change. To go further than the goalie is grasping at straws. Hutton has completely laid an egg this season, and so has any hope of playoffs as soon as Ullmark hurt himself. Find me one team who goes far with a sketchy goaltender. No team does!

Ooh straw man, thanks

Lazar goes down, so does the team! Girgensons is not a physical player. Just because he throws his back into every player and tries to pin the puck on every forecheck and backcheck doesn’t mean he’s physical.

Missing the process Krueger needed a season to expose all the non process guys Tho honestly when a team has no confidence in their goalie it all falls apart. And nobody has confidence in Hutton. Goalies problems are hard to fix mid season

Sell sell sell

You’d think they could prevent staph infections but NOPE

Isn’t that the guy HFboards was fawning over nonstop? Oops, maybe they don’t know everything

Dahlin, our future 2C

I think it is silly and stupid, but I lose all respect for anyone who thinks this is evidence that the organization is 'doomed', 'awful', etc. Outrage is in and it is sad so many people think that's how you win arguments now. It's like I'm in Russia

OUTRAGE CULTURE AHHHH

Receivers were rarely even contested. Why don’t we have Sammy Watkins again?

We don’t let in many 5v5 goals

he almost LTIRed. woo

Botterill is well liked across the league. if the league advised Terry of anything it was to can Murray

rofl 2019. So you know SO much better than all these GMs I want to know your 2017 picks. No 2019 picks matter for the next three years and have no impact on the team.

Ok, so where we're at: You've claimed Botterill can't draft, yet you agree with all of his top-10 picks so far. Given that graduated prospects 80% comes from the first round, there's going to be a large anchor required for the remaining 20% to wholly undermine Botterill's drafting record, but lets keep this going.. Tell me all the other picks that were bad and who you would've picked instead

All you've done is listed out our current prospects and made bold claims they're all busts. Not once have you listed an alternative player you would've picked that isn't a bust for the same draft pick. Please, during Botterill's tenure, tell me who you would've picked instead that changes the outlook?

awww, I was looking forward to you actually putting meat behind your claims. Good to know you're a windbag

I'll be shocked if Hutton finishes his first start

We DID draft like garbage, hence the rebuild. Murray drafted even poorer. Not one 2nd or beyond hit except for.... a 7th rounder! Oh, and he traded away half of his firsts for busts as well. Botterill? WAY too soon for anyone to tell. Please, tell me WHO in the 2018 draft Botterill should've picked instead in the 2nd round that would change anything right now? I'll give you a hint, there's literally only one NHL goal scored by any forward picked in the 2nd round or later from the 2018 draft, so your argument is total *****. Who should Botterill have chosen over Mittelstadt in 2017? If you're going to name Thomas, keep in mind there were ELEVEN other GMs who passed on Thomas between them that have committed the 'oh so obvious mistake' that LGR4GM didn't make... like gosh. Chytril? TWELVE other GMs. There's only THREE players after Mittelstadt who have even played a season's worth of games from the 2017 draft. Saying Botterill is terrible at drafting is making a claim that you're a better scout than all the teams paid to do it. It is TOO EARLY to tell. And even the experts who try have the Sabres roughly in the top third of the league for prospect pools, which as this point is largely Botterill's doing. Therere's TWENTY GMs that the experts are saying have been doing worse. What do we have? Not many forwards, but what has Botterill been doing so far? Let's see: Leading WHL scorer Team USA captain (aka the bust) OHL goalie of the year, WJC Gold starting goalie 3rd round boom bust prospects.. booming 18 yr olds Oh and Mittelstadt, one of three guys drafted at his position or later that have played a season or more (all with similarish stats). He may not live up to top-line LW expectations, but he's already played beyond bust category. Why aren't you a GM?

oh god no. Trading Dahlin would make me find a new team