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The thought process behind that, is that Campbell has had 1 season as a starter, where he performed quite well. I doubt teams are going to give long term contracts at a high salary when he hasn’t shown sustained success. A 1-2 year deal with 5.5 mil, sure, but I’d be surprised if a team paid him that for 5 years

I believe Quick has 1 year left on his contract. And I believe Manson is no longer a defensive stud, his game has fallen off a decent amount.

They’d have to pay me to take Gibson. Stolarz had drastically better numbers this past year, and Gibson has been below average for the past 3 years, and has 5 years left.

Depending on the term, I could see him making 5.5 from Buffalo, Edmonton or NJ potentially. If it’s longer term, the numbers will drop.

In an ideal world, where $ equates evenly to on-ice production, that makes sense, but that just isn’t how the league works. Should McKinnon be making 3.6 million less than Eichel? Obviously not, but you’re never gonna have completely fair contracts across the league. Bobrovsky is making 10 million and is not quite the goalie that Helle is, and was signed as a UFA a few years ago. If you want better goaltending, you can’t really restrict what you’re willing to pay based on one contract of an elite goaltender who’s probably getting paid below market value.

Of that list, who would teams look at as 1s or 1As? Kuemper, Fleury, Campbell for near certainty would be. Husso and Desmith have the stats for it, but have either not played enough in a season or only had 1 season where they did. Holtby is similar with not having played 25 games the past 2 seasons. Halak the last 3 seasons has played 31, 19 and 17 games. Greiss and Lankinen both had a .891 save percentage last year. Jones had .900 as a backup. It looks like there are 3 good options, with 3 more that SOME teams might deem acceptable. With your trade options, if they do end up moved, it creates a new hole so it likely doesn’t affect the market demand much. I think the top 5-6 goalies will be in high demand, because it drops off really fast in quality.

I’d add Kruemper to that list, and maybe Husso, but yeah there’s definitely more demand for good goalies than there is supply.

I think their number for Husso may be slightly high, but I’d expect the contact for Campbell to come in that neighborhood. It only takes 2 teams to drive the price up for a goalie though, and it wouldn’t surprise me if 2 teams thought Husso could sustain the year that he had.

1. It’s UFA, and the best options on the market for each position are always going to be overplayed (unless they are going back to their old team, then they MIGHT take a hometown discount. 2. Hellebyuk was an RFA, and signed before 2018-2019, so he isn’t exactly a great comparable for UFAs 4 years later. 3. There are a lot of teams that need goaltending this offseason, it looks like it will be a market in favor of the goaltenders as there are more chairs to be filled than there are quality goaltenders to fill them, which will push the prices of the Quality? Goaltenders up.

The lightning lost in the first round before winning the last two cups 🤷‍♂️.

In Power’s 8 games this year, he averaged just over 22 minutes of ice time a game. I really don’t think there’s much chance of him playing 3rd pairing minutes

However, the cap relief provided by LTIRing Bishop would not accrue for staying unused for later in the season, the cap space created by putting him on LtIr is for the present only.

Whelp, I was hoping for a bit more, but considering that cap space was almost certainly going unused anyways, I guess this move is a slight net positive?

Adding a player and putting him on LTIR does not help cap-strapped teams. They would be adding his 4.9 mil cap, then getting 4.9 in relief which would result in no change. The only time putting a player on LTIR helps you with cap space is if they are already on your team, then are put on, freeing up their cap space. Additionally, when you are using LTIR cap relief, excess cap space does not accrue for later in the season.

You would probably have to take him at 28, which I would be quite alright with.

I’d be quite happy with a Campbell add, preferably 3 years or less. If we did sign Campbell, I’d also like them to go after someone in the neighborhood of Desmith to solidify the backup position as well. Another option could be trading for one of the Caps goaltenders to back up Campbell.

And if we were anywhere close to the cap, or if I thought we had a reasonable chance of being cap strapped, I’d agree, Hinostroza likely would be better value. Because we have so much cap room, the cap isn’t a limiting factor, and therefore productivity is more important than it usually would be when compared to the price of the productivity.

They are linked, but right now, our constrictions are both the number of skaters we can add (due to a mostly full roster) , and how willing KA is to add to the roster, the cost of the players likely isn’t much of a factor due to how much cap room we have. The cap this year specifically is nearly a non-factor, as we could add 3 10 million dollar players and still fit under the cap.

I wasn’t trying to say anything about a specific player’s intent to sign at a specific term. My intent was to discuss how I would value players, and how in this season and (to a lesser degree)next season, the production from the player is significantly more important than bang for buck.

I’d agree with this for contracts of 3+ years. However for a 1-2 year deal, with the situation the Sabres are in currently, I’d argue that’s not the case. We have more cap space than we will use, practically guranteed. For this year, and possibly next year, the amount of $ spent on a player is not nearly as important as the production. When we get closer to the cap, that is when bang for buck becomes more important. Right now though, since we have the most cap space in the league, and since we likely won’t reach the cap, what matters more is having the best players in the roster.

We had 14 forwards play 40+ games this year. One of those players, or multiple, will likely miss large stretches of the season. I’d rather we have Someone who belongs in a middle 6 to play in that case, than Bjork.

I don’t expect KA to target any non-goalies on that list, but I would definitely like to add one of Copp, Marchment, Burkakovsky, or Neiderreiter to give us someone who can play anywhere in the middle 6. I don’t expect us to be injury free this year (or any year), and would like 14 guys I’m comfortable with playing 40+ games. Right now we have 12. I think one of those adds could be a 4C (better Eakin), but would like one guy who can play up in the lineup, especially if JJP or Quinn prove to need more seasoning in the AHL.

Could be wrong, but I believe Jiriceck and Geekie were not there.

I think the Oilers take this one, but Avs win in 5.

Granato put him on a line with Skinner and Tage, and all 3 played better than they have in years, or had career years. Some of that comes to the line choices and coaching style of Granato. How much? We don’t know for sure, but it is utterly ridiculous to say that he was not a factor.