Derrico

@TrueBlueGED - Not that I love reviving this thread. But I will lay out my point here. Give me a half hour or so.

Pride man. You screw over a billionaire and you're done. Terry has blown money on worse (ex-coaches). You only do that out of spite and pride. This is where we disagree I guess.

Last comment on ROR but I think it’s more than just plausible ownership told Botts to trade ROR. Why wouldn’t he wait until after the bonus was paid to make a trade? It was reported Carolina had a good offer but only if it was after the roster bonus. Why would botts trade him right before?

So much this. I know it’s the off-season optimism but botts is sitting with a real opportunity here. This team has the core that should be good enough to compete. I really like Risto but if Botts can pull off a big move I’ll be suckered back into thinking playoffs. Have to get this trade right. The difference between this trade and ROR is he doesn’t at all have to trade Risto. Sounds like there is a lot of demand out there (for a 24 year old right hand d I’m not too surprised). Maximize this return if you do want to love on. Risto cap hit isn’t bad either.

Lots of talk about getting Miller from Tampa. I don’t really know much of him. He was pretty highly thought of in ny and then disappointed in Tampa? What would we be getting here? Good second line centre?

I'm really looking forward to seeing what Botts and RK can accomplish together. I have faith they are both smart men. Hopefully they continue surrounding themselves with others who can aide in player evaluation. I'm sure it's not just Botts opinion when discussing trades. I'm sure he's speaking constantly with his pro and amateur scouting staff.

Oh come on, not you too!!

I agree. Botts always sounds to me like a draft and develop kind of guy. But I think after last seasons hot start, fan base ready to revolt, ownership may be applying some pressure. who would you look to use the pick on? Any names in mind?

Little guys are sick today. The three year old slept with wife and I and I woke to him puking all over me. Wouldn’t trade it for the world. Happy Father’s Day to all those out there living it. Most exciting, rewarding, stressful, tiring commitment you will ever accomplish. All worth it in the end. Cheers.

That was a good read. Thanks for posting.

Agreed. If UPL is healthy he gets the playing time in Roch right?

I like the two Tampa and hope something gets done there. I know it's the forward group that needs upgrading the most but I can't stop thinking about Trouba. That guy can be a monster and if Risto is dealt in the Tampa trade then he would be the perfect replacement IMO. What's the deal on Kessel? Does he have a NMC? If not would you entertain the idea? Can you imagine a top line of Skinner - Eichel - Kessel?

You mean your in a trade speculation thread, spout off multiple detailed posts about ROR whom has nothing to do with the thread but can’t name one player the sabres should trade for....in said thread?

Yes this. ROR is an excellent hockey player but he is not a leader. On a vet team with guys who have been around awhile this is a fine/great player to have. On a young team trying to figure things out I don't need my vet coming out with 'lost love for the game' *****. Good for you winning the cup, it just was not the right fit at the right time here unfortunately. @TrueBlueGED - I love you man, one of my favorite posters actually....but you have to let this ***** go man. Please. There is an ROR trade sucked thread specific to this discussion. It's over with and not healthy to rehash this trade in every thread we have. I usually don't care but in this instance if we could keep all ROR trade discussion to the appropriate thread that would make our community a better place. I'm ready to rock and roll with RK;, don't give two shits what Tim Horton's ROR runs into now of days. Yes, the pro-ROR lovers were right that we should of kept him. Can we all please move on now.......

I hope he works on his shot and specifically one timer this summer. Eichel demands so much attention on the opposite half wall on the pp that there will be some great looks for him going forward. Stick Reinhart in front and I could see Dahlin hitting 60 this year.

Don’t know anything about this guy but if he was saught after and he drops another franchise after one season to jump ship this is a good sign. RK is reported to still be well connected within the league despite his time away. Seems like a dude that would make a good impression on people and maybe good quality coaches could be lured to join RK over here.

I hate that return in the ROR trade but you gotta let it go man.

It better cost less than us giving up a 4th to bail a division rival out of a terrible contract in an offseason in which they almost HAVE to unload it. I'll take Marleau and Toronto's first next year for *insert ok but not super high end prospect here*. If we gave Toronto a 4th for Marleau I would be completely done with Botts. Don't forget that due to the contract and leafs need for cap space this offseason Marleau is 100% a net negative asset and Toronto better throw in a sweetener for someone to take it off their hands....

Dahlin is ranked too low here imo.

Zaitsev no but Marleau still only has one year left. Whoever takes him better demand something of substance like next year's #1.

Ya that’s why you probably just trade the first for his rights if you wanted to go that route. Kappenen is a sneaky good player for them so I will be happy if he moves on do to cap constraints. Also keep in mind it’s likeky Toronto can move marleau and that would free up some space.

That old guy is an ass hat. I don’t like the 8 years but I don’t agree that all the other gm’s must be mad at Jason now. Wait a couple more weeks to July 1st and then comment.

I think you go bpa no matter what. Saying that I would love to add another high end centre. I’m confident in mitts long term future and I like the idea of asplund and Davidson but you cannot have too many good young centre prospects. Who knows what RK sees, maybe he wants to move mitts to the wing ala Reinhart. I would place preference to centre over wing but again, just go bpa.

There’s always one guy who is ranked outside the top 15 or 20 in May and end up being a top 7 or 8 pick. Newhook is that guy isn’t he? Literally never heard the name until a couple of weeks ago and now the name keeps showing up in top 10 rankings.

I'm very hopeful that Montour will get that status in the next year or two. You beat me to it NS but yes, Montour too.