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This seems right

Real men cry

I agree with that too, have said it many times. Not to be a broken record but “the most frustrating part of missing for 13 straight years is that it’s actually not that hard to make the playoffs.” We probably DON’T need to shift all that much: I think there will be exponential benefit to the priorities of the organization *actually* changing. Not just in namesake. Like, we can all agree the number one priority really wasn’t winning this year, right? Not with the spending on / age of the roster in question. I think the actual culture shift from committing to winning in a real sense could be massive

I wanted to post about how it should have been ridiculously obvious to everyone, then, upon his hiring that he was exceptionally underqualified, and then point out that’s revisionist history based on the team performance. But, no, I think you might just be right. A quick perusal of the thread shows the board ridiculously dialed in

Sit up in the press box for this one and watch how the big boys get some engagement going

Right, I do hear that argument a lot and I get it. But like I’m pretty critical of Adams and even I struggle a bit with that one, as I pointed out. It’s sounds great in theory but how much can we really expect one man to punch above his weight in a power dynamic? Terry can buy and sell his sorry ass with ease. Not being able to MAKE or convince someone well above you in the chain of command to do it your way is sort of far down the list of things I’d blame Adams for tbh

Not sure what you are disagreeing with, then. We agree a short time span is necessary

How do we know Adams can’t do the job if he’s only doing what Pegula wants? I keep hearing things like “only” and “all”, ie, Terry is making all the decisions. if this was the case, a) we actually can’t tie anything negative (nor positive) to Kevyn Adams. He would be an unknown. I don’t think willingness to do what the GM says is a great argument against him as, who wouldn’t, if they were willing to pay you a professional salary to do it? Are you confident in saying, without a track record to go on, he’s unemployable as GM? b) for an oil guy, with literally zero qualifications to run a professional sports team, Terry is actually a relatively great NHL GM. Almost every year he’s constructing teams finishing ahead of some assembled by actual professionals. That’s like my old ass playing in the nhl and finishing like 696th in scoring out of 700. Heck of a freaking accomplishment

Hard disagree. The timeline employed is a central factor, maybe the utmost, in selecting the proper people. We cannot afford to elect for someone who proposes a long-form timeline So, if you could hypothetically switch out Terry for whoever you consider to be the ideal owner, would you be fine with Adams getting a reprieve?

Hell no. Another first time GM is no bueno It can’t even be a consideration Or next year for that matter. It will require patience. It shall require the managing of expectations

He would manage expectations The players on this team *absolutely* despise the fans lol. I’d bet on it. Id feel bad for them, tbh, if we didn’t have it oh so much worse

Bout equal on the injury from with Dahlin, Greenway and Samuelsson out

The team winning shouldn’t leave fans “scratching their heads”. Part of the reason the collapse is so big after the losses is because “signs” and “turning points” are commonly, supposedly found in individual wins. It’s the nhl: wins are inevitable. Inevitable. We need to keep focused on the macro Having said that, it’s winnipeg MUST WIN

What a ridiculous thing to foist on a GM

I still don’t buy this logic tbh. It’s not a must win mathematically..I’d buy into the idea the franchise needs it to stop the bleeding/fan revolt or whatever but I honestly believe the next game we win, no matter when it is, will he accompanied by the usual, “we back”, “possible turning point?” tweets and posts. how many times do we need to see it? Who just said it? People want to believe

Literally nothing. One extra hit on the pipe and I’m back to bitching the next day what of it

Remember when Kim said “I think we know a little more than the fans.”? I think what they may have known is that their goals for the sabres aren’t the same as those of the fanbase

Very interesting, thanks for pointing that out But, we may have to count Darcy under that category which is hilarious, because the only GM he fired for performance is the one that achieved the most on that front

I don’t know how much of a positive effect someone toeing the company line would have, if any, but I also struggle to see why someone from the organization wouldn’t at least try it, considering the size of this sabres message board (is it the largest?) and the cost of doing so (nothing) id imagine a cost-effective swing even if thinly veiled may be up Terry’s alley

I think it was a plant tbh. Maybe. Didn’t seem like a bot to me. I could be wrong there WAS a notable bot around here a bit ago, can’t remember the username

It’s a little scary looking back at the decisiveness with which Pat made that decision. What a canary in the coal mine I remember there was even some speculation at the time Pat was a little sporadic

They better beat the Jets. That’s now my Stanley cup

Technically another of theirs but yes haha This is a good post

We know what Botterill was fired for, explicitly: because he wouldn’t fire a bunch of people he stood up to Terry and got fired “Felt they weren’t being listened to”. Yes. “Fire those people.” ”No.” ”Ok, Kevyn, you do it.” Adams: