Thorny

Under A) it’s certainly a possibility within the realm of believability 1) we scored lots 2) the window always opens a little sooner than you think, and closes a little quicker than you think. Jets were “ahead of schedule” in 2018..that was their best year. Tage could win MVP *next year* Make a compelling argument for why it’s unreasonable to think there’s a decent chance of that happening. That that’s not worth aiming for. That Tage can’t win MVP with a completely dialled in roster. One not needing to get back to cover for UPL what about Dahlin? Who wants to argue he shouldn’t have Norris expectations? Im listening How about in net? Who wants to argue that.. wait, hold up *Why* don’t we think Hellebuyck, who should threaten for the Vezina, guiding Levi, doesn’t have a very fun chance of sending us to great things next year, again? As he Nikolai Khabibulin‘s us to a deep run before handing the reigns to young Niemi for the Cup? I’d certainly like to find out, if at all reasonably possible.

Why? I haven’t been extreme on the issue at all. I’m not “selling the farm” and never advocated to. We have a totally stacked pool. Being open to dealing from it even for ooooonly one year of term for say, Hellebuyck, is something I’m open to (as you know), for an example. I mentioned in the past I am open to moving draft picks as well. We can afford to trade any one prospect to be brutally honest (I already have Levi on the roster), but I’d certainly deal Rosen. Who knows if that’s even in the ballpark of that they’d take, of course. 2024 protected first and Rosen? I do it. You won’t find any posts of mine where I talk about selling off a bunch of guys or saying I want to deal Savoie or Kulich. The equation simply makes sense now because we can *afford* to listen on anyone. I’ve gone on record a multitude of times saying I don’t believe “untouchable” is a thing, while others use it liberally, unless you have McDavid. For others, Josh Bloom was “untouchable” and my posts saying he was expendable were considered tantamount to hot takes lol. It all depends what the deal is

Why did this possibly get a red X lol

Eichel passing him the puck was..a big part of it

I’d go as high as Rosen too, maybe Östlund

Sabres.

Should be pointed out the advanced stats suggest Anderson was our best goaltender last year. So, people saying Levi is strictly plug and play improvement aren’t exactly accurate. If he improves his performance a bit from what we saw to end the year (I assume he will) he can match the 26 game output that Craig Anderson gave us. If we can get him to 40, that should be 14 more games of at least Anderson like output over last season. There’s a chance Levi is even better, but I’m not sure adding 14 more Anderson games last year would have been enough. I’m bullish on Levi, a guy who has never played more than 41 games in a season, once, to play maybe around 41 NHL games this season, and a good level, perhaps surpassing Anderson. That’s a high expectation in and of itself. He could really, really use a helpful vet backup. More so, I think it’s likely the team and it’s record benefits from it. Again, maybe that’s UPL. It’s just a little bit more expectation saddled onto a player who hasn’t yet proven what you are betting on happening. Degree of difficulty is manually increased the more best case scenarios you are counting on congruently

Who was Miller’s back up?

Makes sense. I’ll add that UPL and Comrie COULD be that support system, just seems an awfully risky play from this vantage point

Not all all. “Fine with Levi/UPL” “not fine with Levi/UPL” is officially this summer’s “Team Jacob/Team Edward” on Sabres twitter and elsewhere

What’s the goal of the thread? To prove it can’t be done? Actually asking. Maybe, to be convinced of options because you aren’t seeing any? I believe this to be your subtext, correct me if I’m wrong

Is your opinion that if a fan, without KAs vast array of contacts, can’t provide the perfect name that none were available? Do you yourself believe there are simply no good options available? If that’s the case, does it not stand to follow that, if the goaltending output is again sub par, we can’t blame Adams because there weren’t reasonable options available anyways?

Capable? Yes My number one thing for the wish list however is adding a guy who is much more likely capable of producing the desired output at backup

But the Venn diagram of goalies better than UPL and Comrie is.. considerable Suppose that’s the other thread

He might not make the most sense, but he certainly makes more sense than doing nothing at the position and hoping for the best

This just isn’t accurate. The President’s Trophy winners iced the vezina winning goalie and *still* heavily relied on Swayman. Rookie Devon Levi doesn’t make the second goalie issue for the Buffalo Sabres moot. Not even close

Not at all. The comparison is a poor one. Timing different, asset pool different, NHL need different. Murray’s reputation far exceeds what he ever actually did here, too. One GM made 2 win-now trades and now “trades bad”

Please just do something worthwhile. It would seem to be close to neglect to do nothing there when so much of the rest of the roster looks ready

Thank you. Goalie is the only position people continually talk about improving by improving other positions. No one talks about the other positions this way. It’s actually ok to roster a good player or 2. You don’t merely need to be content with bumping up poor goaltending into mediocre through additions elsewhere. You actually can look to supply good goaltending outright A broken record. The time frame is 4 seasons, there’s simply no room for excuses anymore

What about in net? Chad at least seems to be saying they are/will be (maybe just hoping) they are still after one

Skinner - Thompson - Tuch Mittelstadt - Cozens - Peterka Olofsson - Krebs - Greenway Girgensons - Jost - Okposo (Rousek) Samuelsson - Dahlin Power - Clifton Stillman - Johnson (Lyubushkin, Jokiharju, Bryson) Levi (UPL, Comrie) That’s what we are looking at right now. Could just see the removal of 1 or 2 of the bolded D men, and 1 of the bolded goalies, and a run back with a modestly improved D unit

Ya if that’s what results it’s a status quo offseason with a couple moneypuck D adds. Not exactly unexpected, but nonetheless would be disappointing I think Kevyn has made all his plan B moves. I could see him being ready to roll with this crew of if no deal strikes the value he wants

Could be a run back at F, and in net, with a couple modest additions on D Or, could see a revamped G position, a couple modest additions on D, and maybe even a F add or two through a big swap. So, more of a sweeping change. we shall see

We can certainly afford one and we certainly need one

“We got him? We got Dustin Tokarski?!”