Thorny

The trend of firing these guys after a win is so funny. Like what’s the logic there. I’m positive it doesn’t make the coach feel better We definitely did that with a coach fairly recently I just can’t remember which Taro will know

Eras? It’s Zamboni. He’s from the Ice Age

Missed the playoffs, for the 12th time in a row, after needing to come from behind by about 10 points just to keep in it, with multiple players putting up career years all at the same time Verdict: guilty sentence: sentenced to make the playoffs the next season

Gun to head you say

How long have we both posted on this board? was a joke (The tl;dr thing)

tl;dr I said you had it, man. No need to lay it on thick

So putting yourself into a position where you must trade a player this good seems like a guaranteed losing position to be in, is what I’m gathering

And for the record

You know how it is…take comfort in the fact that even the best among us still make mistakes from time to time, in their infinite wisdom

You had it, you were the one touting him as the heir apparent 2C

Didn’t we ask and basically get 4 for Eichel? And we still got ripped off. McDavid should be worth a lot more

See my last post Victory!

Until we win, I will never stop thinking about the fact that the reason Adams has the job, at all, is merely because he was willing to fire the humans Botterill was not. Never forget that that was the defining qualification that got Adams the job. He was willing to fire people to save costs. Particularly while almost all of our best players to this day are Botterill recruits

We need to pull some Holdo maneuvers. Do some real damage. Well, ya

I do remember, your arguments always have an internal logical consistency

Hit me back, just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan: this Sabres stan - - - How did you even put all that together so fast? One of the best posts I’ve seen on this site

This is fair in theory but Adams already put the “players who want to be here” lingo onto the chess board before that competitiveness was reached: he instituted it as a player/object supposedly worry of concern, supposedly functional to *building* that winning, right now it is now fair game He structured “players who want to be here” *specifically* as a means to an end, and not a symptom of achieving that end, first this is Adams game and we should play by the rules he himself instituted - I like arguing in this way because then if/when he fails, he’s failing by the internal principles of his own preached build.

I think this presents an important conclusion: we either believe Adams or we don’t. If people think he’s doing a good job, they presumably must believe the words that come out of his mouth and the strategy he presents: “We want players who want to be here”. If this is actually true, and not just a blown out narrative of his shaping of the Eichel drama, I fail to see how attracting Patrick Kane, and the connotation inherent to that, wouldn’t do *a lot* on the front of positioning the Sabres, to the league at large, as a destination where actual players want to be

Have we considered, considering the obvious and documented revamp of the Sabres social media presence since Adams took over, how likely it would be that the team isn’t very well aware of the conversation that’s taking place online, in general? Would seem an absurd suggestion that they weren’t. Have we considered Adams is simply most concerned with frequently ensuring there is smoke, regardless of the conversion to fire? How important is, “well, we tried” to the narrative this organization is consciously shaping online? Under, again, the established context where we KNOW they care dearly about online narrative and presence? Chad may just be a victim of the organization’s conscious social media handprint, as much or more than anyone else. I’ve been on this train for a good long while, their social media revamp is relatively un-mined as a discussion point and I think you can see it’s offshoots in a lot of places

I agree. I’d be pretty surprised if KA and team have switched up on their initial evaluations after seeing such limited output afterwords. We preach endlessly it’s too early to judge guys that have already been suiting up as nhl pros for years - a drastic shift like that (even Östlund was picked before Kulich) would be surprising to me

Also, I used “Adams” to put a Face on the Hand, because it makes the most apparent sense. But “Adams” is synonymous with Front Office. If he’s merely a puppet, feel free to alter the Hand to Terry, and literally nothing about my arguments changes as a result

Granato..the players..they are all pieces on the board. Adams is the Hand, and the impetus behind their movement and performance.

In seriousness, are we thinking this is something the organization has already changed its mind on? Presumably they believed Savoie was the better prospect considering they selected him much higher, in the same draft

This is where I am. We might be damned if we do, but we are very probably damned if we don’t, because of how it reflects on the man in charge. I’ll take the signs of life.

If they sit KO at 1001 and thus prove the only thing keeping him in beforehand was prioritization of doing right by the vibes and not our team record…I won’t be mad at this hockey team. I’ll just be disappointed.