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It was a reply to Marvelo's post...I thought one dumb reply deserved another... d4rksabre, Buff is the most beloved active sports figure in the Peg so I can't really see that happening.

not sure how the italics got there. Buff's way of saying you are not above the team and a track suit is not in the dress code. Neither is coming late or missing team meetings.

Sabres are 6-8 for 12 points. Jets are 8-5-2 for 18 points... Ya, I see how the Sabres won the trade...

Byfuglien, who at one point last season told his agent to let Jets general manager Kevin Cheveldayoff know if he didn’t trade Kane he would someday have to move him, didn’t go rogue. He had the support of his teammates..... Doesn't sound selfish or being a bully to me....sounds like someone that didn't want a cancer in a locker room that is very tight. Buff loves Manitoba with all the hunting and fishing and has said as much. He was born just across the border so it isn't that far away from home. nfreeman, I am not sure if he will be re-signed or traded....at his age Chevy will be hesitant to give him a long term contract. The return in a trade would be a lot but Chevy is trying to get Ladd signed before dealing with Buff. I'd give him 7.5 over 5 years but I doubt he would sign that.

Up at 300 am. Left house at 415 and drove for 80 minutes. Saw around 12k-15k ducks and half that in Snows and Canadas. Came home with one Gadwall for 3 hunters. Frustrating...

Here is the article.... Pick a side, any side. There seem to be endless choices when it comes to Dustin Byfuglien, who just might be the most misunderstood player in the NHL today. He’s Big Buff, one of the most offensively talented defencemen in hockey. He’s the malcontent who would prefer to give media the Marshawn Lynch treatment rather than show the smallest piece of his inner self. He’s the smiling giant, standing in the middle of a Winnipeg classroom with children clinging to linebacker legs looking up to catch his every word. He’s the perpetrator of reckless, violent acts on the ice like last season’s cross-check on Rangers forward J.T. Miller, which resulted in a four-game ban. He’s the dancer, cutting towards the net with extraordinary grace like he did scoring his third goal of the season on Wednesday against Toronto. He’s the chameleon, using stevedore strength to swat away defenders before popping back into finesse mode and deftly flipping the puck over a goalie’s shoulder into the smallest of scoring windows. He’s the dressing room boss, gathering up a teammate’s clothes and tossing them into a cold tub to make a point. He’s the outsider, never quite good enough for Team USA’s liking. He’s the 6-foot-5, 260-pound freak blessed with so much speed and power that even bumping another player while playing the puck can fool the naked eye and result in a call from the Department of Player Safety, like his recent brush with Montreal’s Brendan Gallagher. He’s the King of Winnipeg, where more fans wear his jersey than any other and leap to their feet when he revs up for one of his charges. He’s the sensitive sort, who, while mourning the death of his grandfather, allowed his in-season weight to rise to 302 pounds. He’s the mad photo bomber, always looking to get in on the action when a teammate is being interviewed or photographed. He’s the guy everyone wants on their team and the guy no one wants to play against. He’s the game-breaker who can put his team ahead in an instant but can also lose focus and make a costly error at just the wrong time. He’s no game manager. He’s a home-run hitter who is willing to live with the accompanying strikeouts. Just like Byfuglien is difficult to pin down as a player, he’s also hard to define as a person. And the latter is by design. “He’s a great teammate,” says Florida Panthers GM Dale Tallon, who was part of the Chicago Blackhawks management team that Byfuglien joined out of junior. “A guy that really cares about his teammates and his team and winning. He’s a very kind and good-hearted person. He’s one of those Pied Pipers. Guys want to be around him and they want to follow him. He’s got a real nice way about him, a real nice personality. I had him on my team and I loved him.” more... Byfuglien was born to a single mother in Roseau, Minn., and raised in small-town fashion. His grandfather, Kenny Byfuglien, put him on skates and friends and family taught him the way around a hockey rink, a fishing boat and a deer stand. Byfuglien is as much Survivorman as he is Bobby Orr. “Buff doesn’t like the spotlight other than when it’s on the ice,” says Ben Hankinson, who has been Byfuglien’s agent for more than a decade. “He loves to be at the heart of a game but not in the middle of a public conversation. “Who is Buff? Who knows Buff? Those are great questions. He’s different things to different people. But at the heart of it all, he’s one of the best people I’ve ever been associated with. He was 18 and I got a call from his mom’s boyfriend asking if I would consider representing him. So I made my calls and I kept hearing he was a trouble-maker. But I also kept hearing he was a once-in-a-lifetime talent. So I drove up to Roseau and spent a lot of time with him before I made a decision. The bad apple stuff? I never saw a bit of it. He keeps his friends forever and he’s got lots of them from many different walks of life. He’s just a really, really good guy and if he lets you in, you can’t help but fall in love with him.” Inside the Jets organization, Byfuglien is beloved. His teammates look to him for leadership. Last season, when former teammate Evander Kane crossed the line of some dressing room codes, it was Byfuglien who took the matter into his own hands, tossing the power forward’s clothes into frigid water and leaving them to soak. "I’m sure you have rules in your household," Byfuglien said of the incident. "And if the kids don’t stick to it, you’ve got to discipline them. It is what it is." Byfuglien, who at one point last season told his agent to let Jets general manager Kevin Cheveldayoff know if he didn’t trade Kane he would someday have to move him, didn’t go rogue. He had the support of his teammates. "There’s a standard that everybody needs to live up to," said Blake Wheeler. "We’re professionals. We make a lot of money. That’s the code we live by. If you don’t like it then there are other places you can go. This is the way we do things." Winnipeg is a small place. He’s the most popular athlete in Winnipeg but he’s found a way to make it work for him. It’s no fishbowl where Byfuglien is concerned. “I was in Winnipeg last year and we went for a beer after a game with (Jets defenceman) Adam Pardy,” recounts Hankinson. “We’re having something to eat and I look up there’s a guy with his phone and he’s filming Buff, waiting for him to take a sip of his beer. I asked him if he wanted me to tell the guy to stop. ‘Nah. I can’t tell people to stop taking pictures or filming me. It’s part of the job.’ He likes to keep his private life separate but he understands the people in Winnipeg have passion. And he thinks the people are generally good people. So it works for him. Winnipeg is a good fit for Buff.” When Paul Maurice arrived in Winnipeg, Byfuglien was playing forward as part of a last-ditch experiment instigated by previous coach Claude Noel. Maurice hadn’t liked all of what he’d seen from Byfuglien on defence and insisted he stay at forward. Over time, however, Byfuglien wore Maurice down and when injuries piled up early last season, the coach gave him his chance, but with the caveat that Byfuglien play the right way or be prepared to go back up front. Maurice wanted some game sound decision-making to go along with the remarkable talent. He got it and Byfuglien since hasn’t spent more than a handful of power-play shifts at forward. Prior to injury and suspension slowing him down last season, he had an outside chance at Norris Trophy votes. Now 30, a husband and a father of two young children, Byfuglien is on the precipice of free agency. The Jets want to keep him but so far talks have been limited. Term is an issue and so is cash value. What’s he worth and for how long? It’s up for debate. Just like all things Byfuglien. He’s unpredictable at times, as reliable as an old friend at others. Byfuglien remains a riddle. Take your pick, there’s no shortage of opinions. But don’t be surprised if before long he has you changing your mind. Frustrating? Yep. Remarkable? Truly. There’s a saying around the Jets dressing room which gets uttered quite often. “That’s just Buff being Buff,” they say. It’s the perfect blanket statement to cover hockey’s most unknowable and unpredictable star. Doesn't sound like a prima donna to me.

Surely you jest....Buff is the ultimate team first guy and the leader of the locker room....Kane, not so much. Bunomatic, as soon as Kane quits commenting on Winnipeg, I am sure the fans will forget about him, until then....I doubt it. D4rdsabre, he was shipped out because of cap issues....I think this has been well documented. Kane didn't mention Buff as someone he would like to drop the gloves with because he would get annihilated. As far as Yandle being better than Buff, you are entitled to your opinion.....wrong or wrong.

This just came out in yesterday's local Winnipeg papers....this is taken from an article written about Buff. Byfuglien, who at one point last season told his agent to let Jets general manager Kevin Cheveldayoff know if he didn’t trade Kane he would someday have to move him.

Wow, that's a big goose.

I'm too lazy to do it but if you go on http://video.jets.nhl.com/videocenter/and look at the interviews with Ladd and Wheeler, you will see by their comments that they don't want to talk about Kane and are questioning why they aren't being questioned about the upcoming games(s). You'll see some of that from both of them a few days ago when asked by reporters for a response about Kaner's comments. Essentially, they play on a TEAM and want don't want the prima donna to be the focus instead of the team. Thorny, This thread is about a major trade between the 2 teams, shouldn't there be some talk of the Jets on here? I don't "tear down two former Jets players". I have given my honest evaluation of them if you care to read my posts... I love the way Kaner plays on the ice....off the ice? ... He should have John Ferguson as a team mate to tune him up and teach him how to be someone his team is actually proud of. Bogo plays a tough game, is a good team player but sometimes takes really dumb penalties, misses games and he can add a bit of O. Both players are good skaters with Kane having world class speed. Too bad he has little class off of it... You'll see what I mean in a year or two and until then, good luck with him. Also, I couldn't give two knobs of goat shite what you think I am "trying to achieve".....if it were to get under your skin, I would have "achieved" it though, eh? Good to know for further posts. Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets Jets d4rksabre, Winnipeg is around 700k and has a lot of problems...gangs, roads due to the frost bubbles tearing up the asphalt and the govt building roads that last for 25 years and replacing them every 40, homeless people, lots of meth, etc... I live less than 15 minutes away on acreage on a gravel road. There are 7 houses on the mile I live on and next to no traffic. Canada Geese feeding in the fields all over the place and wildlife close by. I went for a ride one hour north yesterday and saw my 2nd wolf ever 1030 in the morning....really cool. I like the fact that Winnipeg is close by for entertainment, has some great ethnic restaurants, getting things you don't have access to in smaller communities and so forth but I dislike most bigger cities and I consider a city big after 75k or so. Most winters here are cold and long but I try to go away somewhere warm for 3 weeks most winters.

It was mainly because those two thought the spotlight should be on the team and not any one person and were vocal about it...... They are tired of answering questions about a cancer that is no longer here.... I noticed he didn't want to drop them with Buff tho....smart man that Evander.

You mean like Bogo? Crybaby Kane has 3 points and Bogo hasn't played and you want to debate the trade? Bring it on. Yup, Myers was -4 with 2 empty net goals but I'll be the first to admit I didn't like his game tonight. He's got to learn better D or be paired with someone else. I just finished watching video of the Jets' players reaction to Kaner's comments..... you should watch them and read between the lines. Ladd, Wheeler, Maurice and Thorburn (a close friend of Kaner's while he was here) have too much class to come out and say anything outright, but you can read between the lines and see they wish Kaner would just disappear and shut his big yap. Even the TSN guys are rolling their eyes and telling him to move on. Quite immature behavior if you ask me. Oh, and ya, we're a better team without Kane.

He'll probably be on the IR with Bogo when they come here. I would like to see Kaner and Buff meet in the corner though.

Another slow evening yesterday. Two of us got 4 ducks. Two mallards and 2 Redheads......good color on them which tells me these are northern ducks. Hopefully they are starting to move down. We had a flock of about 2500-3000 mallards go over us about 400 yards up just before dark. They were set and weren't flapping their wings and I would guess they landed about a mile or so behind us. Neat to see and hear but would have been nice if they came into our dekes. Back at it Thursday!

I will, right after he does....

Ya, the Jets fan favorite is Buff but we are racist.... What you bolded was what he complained about or did before the trade. Opening his mouth yesterday and whining shows his lack of class. I'm glad he is gone. So far, Stafford has more than replaced him and there is no internal bickering centered around Kane. He wasn't traded because management wanted him gone, he was traded because his team mates wanted him gone. He was playing through a shoulder injury but as soon as the sweatpants went into the shower, he wants surgery....like a spoiled little brat that he is.

http://video.jets.nhl.com/videocenter/ Maurice's interview on Oct. 26/15. Go to the 9:40 mark and THIS is how you handle these types of questions with class. Kane has none.

He complained before the trade and now he is whining after the trade...show some class and button it and move on. Do I like him? As a hockey player, I think he plays old school hockey at its finest which I really like. as a team mate and a person, he leaves a LOT to be desired.

Trolling? He missed meetings... He was late to meetings... He was warned about the dress code before the trade... This is trolling? Why is it whenever Bogo is "hurt" at a practice, nothing is said immediately after the practice? Other players that were dinged up in practice leave the game and reporters notice this and question the coach after the practice....this never happened with Bogo's "injuries". What's going on? The Jets wouldn't say a bad word about him even after the trade and he starts whining like a little baby after the trade...glad he is gone. The Jets are looking for a certain type of player and Kane doesn't fit that bill... On a sidenote, I'm not sure Lemieux fits the bill either. He was crying and complaining in the article released yesterday wasn't he?

I was referring to his whining before the trade...

Miles ahead of never making the playoffs. The young players have seen the playoffs now and will be aware of what it takes to win in the post season. Had we not made the playoffs, how would they know? Also, how much did the owners make extra for those two games? 4 million? Kane can keep on crying all he wants, he is gone and I am glad....the cancer has been removed.

It certainly helped us make the playoffs though. Did Kane have to whine about his time here....he isn't here any more, move on and quit being a crybaby already. The team didn't have my back wahhhhh I have to go to meetings on time wahhhhhh I have to dress up while traveling with the team wahhhhhhhh They won't let me put me before the team wahhhhhh etc... I am glad he is gone because as good as he was on the ice, he was a detriment to the team off the ice and we are a better team after the trade.

Probably because he was asked?

Jets captain A Ladd closes his response to Evander Kane's comments with this today: "We've moved on, and maybe he should, too."

Bogosian didn’t want to go into too much detail, but said, “It was a practice thing, sometimes those things happen during camp. It was unfortunate the way it happened, but it’s in my past.” Ya, okay.