Ducky
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Eichel and Risto for
Dumba, Rossi, Kaprizov, Talbot and a 1st in 2021.
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If Rhino won't sign, I'd trade him straight up for Konecny.
Without looking at salary caps of both teams...
Eichel, Risto, Rhino and Skinner (1m retained) for...
Provorov, Ghost (1m retained), Frost, Konecny, Myers, Foerster and a 1st in 2021.
Cozens, Frost, Mitts and Foerster down the middle in 3 years would be very nice. So nice you could move one to wing or trade one. Provorov is a bona fide 1D man (Chevy tried to get him for Laine but they wouldn't bite). Konecny is a very good winger and Quinn will be in a few years as well. Throw in Olof, Tage and the rest of the forwards in the system and you have a good group of forwards in 2-3 years and most around the same age.
You'd also be getting rid of 3 players (two in undesirable contract situations) that probably wouldn't object to a trade.
I'd sign Anderson and one of Brossoit or Smith for backup goalies.
I'd also get a coach with head coaching experience in the NHL but not Torts.
edit ... Play hardball with the upcoming RFAs. No need to offer them too much if they haven't proved anything.
If you don't make the playoffs next year with that lineup, you would start making them the year after.
Either that or I've smoked too much herb???
Did Duchene really get that much in a trade?
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Buffalo should not be taking a contract like Kassian's back in a deal for Rhino...or anyone else not named Skinner or Okposo.
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5 hours ago, Thorny said:
I don’t think the coach himself will have a say in it, but who we pick as coach will be dependent on the route the team has chosen to go w/Eichel
Paul Maurice having his job saved by series wins in the faux-playoffs in the North would be a hilarious outcome for Jets fans. The North playoffs are merely a competition to see who loses to probably Colorado in 4/5 games. None of the North teams make it beyond round 2 (and maybe round 1) in a normal format
EDIT - In before Ducky, "something something, glass houses, something"
I am tired of Maurice as a coach but you can't deny he had a great game plan and got the players to buy in 100%.
We were supposed to lose 4 straight to the Oilers too...good thing we actually play the games instead of going by predictions. I thought we were out of the playoffs with one win to be honest.
Kudos to Scheif's line for giving up O to help shut down McDrai.
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10 hours ago, Hoss said:
Jack Eichel will become your best goal scorer and you’ll like it!!
I'd make the trade even up...if 2.5m were retained on Eichel's contract!!!!!!!!!
Seriously though, Eichel will not be coming here...Chevy will not be willing to pay the price and Scheif has opened some eyes here with his D play for the last 8 or so games.
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Nice to get the team some rest while the Habs and TO beat each other up.
@Hoss, KC is not going anywhere, he's our best goal scorer.
Smith played unbelievable through the whole series and kept Deadmonton in every game. Coilers fans are as big crybabies as Leafs' fans.
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5 hours ago, Thorny said:
I mean the base you inherited was a little more than Postma and Chariot. Your leading scorer the last full NHL season was an Atlanta Thrasher. Aside from his work at the deadline in giving up high picks to attempt to address the otherwise unaddressed 2C position, Cheveldayoff has done a pretty good job.
I said nothing about the base...only mentioned the cupboard.
Wheeler played all of 26 games for ATL and turned into a points machine later while here.
Buff Wheeler Enstrom Little Ladd are/was all good players for us. The prospect pool was empty which Chevy re-stocked. Off the top of my head Chiarot and Postma (not very good) were the only prospects to play for the Jets.
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18 hours ago, Eleven said:
How livid were you with Andreychuk for Fuhr? Or not born yet? It's the same level of trade; the tundra would have to throw something Buffalo's way, but it's the same level.
Good luck with your everything else. All you have is frozen land and goaltending.
EDIT follows:
@Ducky giggled. (Second EDIT: he removed his giggle emoji after I posted the following.) He lives in a place where they steal meat, FFS. That lost its team to freaking Arizona. Ok. Keep giggling.
There is likely one place where a player would refuse a trade to besides Buffalo, and that's Winnipeg. There is nothing there. I'm not even sure there is a train station there. I have this idea that CN just passes by. It's a freaking trading post that decided it needed a hockey team. And lost it!
It's the Ohio of Canada. A place that you have to go through if you're going from one place to another. No one wants to be in Manitoba, just like no one wants to be in Ohio.
Keep trolling your Jets here. No one wants to play there. Cf. the Blue Jackets. Oh, Oh, Oh, OHIO AGAIN.
@ThornySorry, love you bud, but I'm just sick of your fellow 'pegger (had to do that, too) who has been trolling here since the Kane trade.
I've never used an emoji on purpose in my life. Don't know what a giggling emoji is. I hit those thumbs up things if that is an emoji? If I ever hit anything else, it was by mistake. The stealing meat comment baffles me as I have no idea what you are talking about. You on the pipe?
As far as wanting to play here, Eichel, Rhino and Risto don't want to play in Buffalo and I don't think Ullmark does either and they are already there! People in glass houses...
I remember the '66 cup so I am old enough to remember Fuhr getting traded. Didn't bother me whatsoever, why would it?
One thing you forgot about what we have in Winnipeg is we have a hockey team that makes the playoffs consistently. I can't help it your owners are a bunch of tools and don't know how to build a team and we built one quicker than it took you to make the playoffs. Think about that for a second. We got a team with Chiarot and Postma as the only prospects and built a team quicker than the Sabres could make the playoffs... I don't blame you if you are butt hurt that your team can't make the playoffs and Winnipeg (I don't live in Winnipeg) does consistently but not my fault. Look a little closer to home...
If you're sick of me "trolling", ignore me. I'm sick of getting private messages saying how embarassing you are to other Sabres' fans and to just ignore your comments.
Have a good summer...
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4 hours ago, Eleven said:
Yes. Seriously. If I'm a GM trading Jack Eichel to the frozen tundra, I am getting Connor Hellebuyck in the deal, or I'm not making the trade; there are 30 other teams I can trade with.
Good luck with your goaltending.
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3 hours ago, pastajoe said:
Woohoo! Winnipeg in OT goes up 2 games. McDavid no points so far.
Rumor has it Ehlers might be back next game.
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3 hours ago, Eleven said:
I said nothing about straight up. If Greenland wants Buffalo's best player, I want Greenland's in return, is all. It can be jiggered. But not Laine or any other of the slim sticks un in Nunavut.
Laine? Seriously? Laine? Maybe you should trade us Gilbert Perreault?
Brossoit is better than anyone not named Lehner you guys have had for awhile. Your GM should be taking a look at him.
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26 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:
Adams watches his Team Canada lose 2-0 to Latvia and slowly crosses him off the list.😜
Team Canada has a ***** team this year. He, like most coaches, likes his vets though. Perfetti was a threat most times on the ice and he got under 10 minutes.
If that's the best Henrique and Pirri have got, they might as well retire for God's sake.
2 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:I think BrinD'Amour hates us more than he hates other teams. I can see him going to Philly or Columbus, though.
I think he signs that ridiculous contract but I'd try hard if I were the Sabres' GM.
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7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:
Think he signed a really cheap extension 🙂
edit: nvm rumours are cheap at 1.8 mill and that he would sign, hasn't yet though.
That's what I mean. Make him an offer he can't refuse. A fully guaranteed 5 year deal worth 18m-20m. I'd do it as soon as he is available.
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I think management has to talk to ALL possible candidates.
Why would anyone prefer they not?
Boudreau is a good regular season coach but he wouldn't be near the top of the list for me. Gallant and Julien would be the (former) coaches I would be interested in but only if there is not a complete rebuild in the future. If the direction is a rebuild, I'm not sure they are who you want or even if they would take a job on a rebuilding team. There are many college and Europeans that I haven't seen coach but some think it is a matter of time before they are in the NHL.
It depends a lot on which direction the team is headed. Rebuild? Retool? If they don't know by now, the first thing they have to figure out is whether Eichel, Sam, Risto and, to a lesser extent, Ullmark want to stay or not. I think they already know 2 for sure and maybe 3.
I'd stay away from Babcock but if Rod Brind'Amour hasn't signed in Carolina, I'd make him a priority. Offer him 4m or 5m and talk him into leaving Carolina. 4 x 4.5m and the Canes won't come near to matching it and you'd have the best up and coming coach in the league.
I think Maurice is great for an up and coming team but whether he is the right coach for where the Jets are now, I am not sure. I do think he'd look a helluva lot better if Chevy got him some D help.
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PLD is in for tonight's game!!!!!!!!!!
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15 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:
If you have a family, I heard Winnipeg is a helluva nice place to live.
I don't like living in cities but I work in Winnipeg and it is only 20-25 minute drive to work...next to no traffic on the way in and not much on the way home.
What I like about the area is the proximity to nature for fishing/hunting and so forth.
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1 hour ago, Eleven said:
Ok. All of these threads are premised upon Eichel being traded. We're exploring possible returns. It's unnecessary to guess whether he will or will not be traded in each thread.
Winnipeg? I want Hellebuyck coming back.
Helle? Straight up and you retain 3.5m maybe...
Dream on. An elite goalie (signed to 6.17m AAV) is hard to find.
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9 hours ago, Thorny said:
Even what's spoken about the weather here is largely a myth at this point. Winters are way more mild nowadays aside from a big cold stretch or two every winter, -8 celsius is your average December day time high. Hardly frigid. And our summers and falls are among the best one will find - I think we used to have the record for the biggest discrepancy between our winters and summer temperatures, but I can't see that being the case anymore with how much more mild the winters are of late. Not sure about the greater Buffalo area but if city life matters to Jack, Winnipeg is actually about 3 times the population of Buffalo.
Not only that but they are on the road for half the season. Country living is right outside the city if you don't want neighbors within farting distance. 10m USD turns into about 13m CAD...housing is cheap...free medical...access to world-class hunting/fishing/boating/hiking...yadda yadda yadda. Like I said, most players that come here enjoy it here give or take an Evander Kane or Trouba. Laine even liked playing here...he just wanted to be THE player and make more than Chevy was willing to give him.
Most players go home or have a home in places like Florida (ex. Wheeler) for the off-season and like you say, they miss a great summer.
I think Eichel would love it here playing with our top 6 and regularly making the playoffs but Chevy isn't trading Ehlers or Scheif. Even KC I doubt he trades. It would have to be heavy with prospects/picks along with PLD and even then I don't think he would be willing to pay the price to bring him here.
As far as lining up against McD, we don't play them that often in a normal season. Three times a season I think?
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2 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
Don't see Winnipeg being remotely interested at all. Moreover I'd bet Jack would hate the deal and he'd force them to trade him for less a year or two later. Now Risto, we might be able to move him there.
You don't think Eichel would like to play with Ehlers, KC, Wheeler and making the playoffs every year? It is hard to get players to come here but they like it once they get here.
I agree that Winnipeg (Chevy) probably won't be very interested though.
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10 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:
Eichel ain't going anywhere. His trade value is a lot less now than it was before the season.
I'd bet he is traded before the next season starts.
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8 minutes ago, Hoss said:
Someone would definitely trade for Reinhart considering his current contract situation.
I am sure they would. You'd get a ton for him even at the TD.
I wouldn't give up a lot unless he extended though.
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1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:
Except that isn't true. It often happens that way, but it certainly isn't always the case:
-The Lindros trade. At the time Philly was getting the 'best player' but in the long run the trade worked out better for the Avs.
-Alexi Yashin Trade. The Islanders wanted him badly, gave him a huge contract, and the consensus in the hockey world was he was the best player in the deal. What did Ottawa get back? Charra and a 1st that turned into Jason Spezza.
-Joe Nieuwendyk was traded for a prospect named Jerome Iginla and Corey Miller. Iginla was considered a good prospect, but Nieuwendyk was the best 'player' in that trade.
-Barry Pederson for Cam Neely AND a draft pick.
-Mike Richards for Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds. Richards was a young Star (I think 25 years old with close to 30 goals in the 4 previous seasons) in the league at the time, the best player in the trade at the time, but the Flyers clearly won that trade....even though the Flyers traded away a young 30 goal scoring all-star.
-For the Sabres, when they aquired Brierre, they traded Chris Gratton..who was considered the better player as the Sabres got a higher draft pick back in the deal with it.
-In Football, look no further than the Herschel Walker deal from Dallas.
There are a LOT of other examples, but these are the ones I think of when this topic is brought up. Is it HARDER to win the trade when you are trading away who is considered the best player? Yes, I will agree with that....but by no means are you guaranteed to lose the trade by trading who is considered the best player in the deal.
If you make a deal and you really, REALLY scout the other teams prospects, and you know who you want and know a player in their system might have more value than the other team even thinks..you can come ahead that way. Of course, that requires a great team of scouts....the Sabres might currently have the worst scouting staff in the league.
Not sure about Philly winning the Richards' trade when he went on to win 2 cups in LA.
Same as the Joe Nieuwendyk trade. Dallas won a cup with him.
It is all about winning the cup.
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5 hours ago, Kruppstahl said:
Overall disappointing night last night, I thought.
Tonight and tomorrow we get to probably the 2 most anticipated series for me: Edmonton/WPG and Montreal/Toronto.
Can't wait to watch both.
It's always so much fun to hate on TO, but then in this case it means cheering for...Montreal?! That's strange, but I'd rather do that than the reverse.
Growing up in the '70s and '80s, Montreal was easily my most hated team in the NHL.
The Jets don't have Ehlers and PLD tonight and Copp didn't play the last game of the season and has only practised a few days and that was in a non-contact jersey. It will be an uphill battle to say the least.
As far as the Habs go, the first cup I can remember any team winning was the '66 Habs and that got me hooked on hockey and the Habs.
I was spoiled in the 60s and 70s having them as my favorite team.
Cups in 60, 65, 68, 69, 71, 73, 76, 77, 78, and 79. Most teams don't win that many in their existence. Graduated in '76 and started working with my buddy from school that was a Bruins fan. To say I took advantage of him after we graduated in hockey bets is a severe understatement.
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2 minutes ago, Hoss said:
I’d consider this but I’m really interested in Pionk if possible. Maybe make it a Reinhart deal instead of an Eichel deal. Reinhart and Risto for Copp, Pionk and a 1st or prospect.
No interest whatsoever in Risto. Rhino would have to be extended for around 5 years if he is included in a major deal.
Also, trading Pionk leaves a gaping hole on the right side of D. We haven't got over losing Buff, Trouba and Myers in one off season yet.
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