Darryl Shannon's +/-

The same way we were when we acquired a younger O'Reilly? In a league where center depth is so important, he's now on his third team.

As upset as botterill was, something had to give. This is now jack and dahlins team, there is more depth and salary cap flexibility. And we won't have to watch 90 sleepwalk through 40 games and drone on about needing to be better ever again. Stitch the C on 15, and start scouting for our 3 first rounders next year. And also probably get ready to trade a dman or two. This is fun.

I think the real cash tied to his contract needs to be looked at. Saves an owner real cash, which does have value.

I think he views the coming season as one to show improvement but not make the playoffs. And if we make the playoffs, we'd get bounced quickly. Point is, when O'Reilly is 29 or 30 it's too late. Trade high, buy low. I also wouldn't be shocked if he trades for a top prospect and expiring deal. Throw that guy on Jack's wing and then spin him for even more. Dahlin is the x factor in my opinion. If he's as good as we are being told, 3 years from today is go time.

You may want to discriminate in who you honor, but mental illness doesn't. That's the sad part of this week. People everyone believed to be living wonderful lives pulled the rip cord. Sadly, it's far from logical. And I'm not sure it ever will be from the outside.

Depends on how you define compete. I hope our gm counts that as being able to contend for the cup, and not limping into the playoffs. If that's the case, we are 2-3 away. And ROR is not part of that picture. Trade him while his value is high, and also when the real money remaining on his contract will be a windfall to an owner worried about cash.

I'm betting Harrington would be one of the first to criticize an athlete for lashing out at a heckling fan. I wonder if vogl leaving saved him from the targeted buyouts? As for his work, he's competent. But it's not like I'm excited to see his picture next to his story, like it used to be with Kelley.

How does the cap hit work if he's traded after 7/1? If the cap hit transfers to the new team entirely, then the savings in real dollars for a cash poor team (while making cap floor) has value.

Is this really a difficult job? Brandon's genius was leveraging a threat to move an NFL franchise to sell tickets for an awful team. Currently, the NHL team has the first overall selection and is top 2 in the tv ratings in the playoffs they aren't participating in. On the football side, they are coming off the most feel good season in over 15 years. Drafting a top 10 QB with salary cap room next year. It feels to me that this would work even without a president.

For all of the anxiety about Kim doing this job with no experience, Cam Neely and Garth Snow got the same titles not having worked an office job in their lives.

I'm cool seeing what Linus can do next year. Maybe Murray overpaying for lehner has me gun shy, but I think next year is more of an evaluation year given our cap issues.

I'm not sure it works that way. The pitchfork mob may not be brilliant, but being good at your job doesn't lead to being unpopular. Sleepwalking through the start of the year and being dim enough to verbalize that you are mentally weak does it though.

Actually, it's likely Larry Quinn who deserves thanks for dragging golisano to a payday.

The first for Duchene was I believe 28th overall, combined with the prospect first. If Montreal gives their first, it's top 8 I believe. On that note....does the NHL draft have their version of a Jimmy Johnson draft value chart? For me it's all timeline. With O'Reilly's age, cap hit and public admission of being mentally weak, I want to move on. In the mind of jbot, I wonder when he thinks we are ready to really contend. If the answer is 3 years or greater, I think you have to move on. The only way I'd be okay with keeping him around is if the cap projected to grow dramatically. I don't think that's the case, even with Seattle joining.

Freeing up that cap hit and gaining younger assets is the right thing to do. Given his reputation, I'd think the return would be better than Duchene. For Montreal, that might be first and a legit prospect?

Tampa and Winnipeg are part of newer list of owners too. So Tampa, though up and down with success likely are the best of that crop.

An interesting point to think about....for newer owners in the league, what is their success? Arizona, Edmonton, Carolina and us are all part of the new guard. I'm optimistic on the strides that Terry and Kim appear to be making, with both franchises. St. Louis and Vegas are likely top of the pile in terms of early ownership success. Reading through the comments here, what is the ideal for an owner? Not active in the day to day, but visible in media and the owners box? I'm thankful we aren't Ottawa, or the Carolina panthers. And not having to worry about budget for either team. It's something I'm still getting used to.

19,14,12,11,9

My fear of keeping him. Already 27 years old, plummeting 5 on 5 goal production, 5 years left at substantial dollars, and then today's interview. Sometimes leading is keeping the truth to yourself. If I'm signing checks or trying to build this team, I'm not sure I can rely on this guy for the next five years. You can't cut or stow him in the minors. And since he is likely our most marketable asset, if bots wants to overhaul the lineup that's perhaps the most logical starting point. As for jbot, he's preached organizational competitiveness and creating a winning culture through the minors to the big club. I wonder if comments like that are a line in the sand for him.

It's not his fault Murray traded for him, but I'm ecstatic that we won't have to see him on the ice ever again. Wish him well, but time to get better.

Yup, good call. Sad that we have to decipher it on our own.

Thanks to everyone for helping us to get through the year. Looking forward to the summer, lotto and better things.

Hilarious as they all actually get paid for this. And yeah, I know the game didn't matter. It's more....you are playing a game and want to win. Right?

Wait, no penalty for offsides challenge?

Well, nice to see some fight. Pales in comparison to last year with bylsma.