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Was it Montreal-specific or general to leaving Tampa at all? Also, ya never know, things can change if negotiations are going poorly.

That nonsense Bergevin did hardly counts!

How many players are all of the following: legitimate #2 centers, RFAs in 2020, playing for a team with major cap problems and needs RHD more than centers? I'd imagine any such list of players is incredibly short.

I think this makes a ton of sense, but I have no idea how we'd get a 2C without Risto as the centerpiece given how many targets have already gone off the board.

I don't want any of their bad contracts because they all have term. It'd be one thing to absorb Ladd for a year. But three? Hard pass.

I just looked, and holy crap do the Isles have some fugly contracts, at least one of which they'd have to unload to make space for Marner.

I'll take it's not happening for $2000, Alex. But man oh man do I hope it does. Edit: I'm also unsure why a team would rather offer sheet Marner than Point, unless Point has indicated he's not interested in leaving Tampa.

Kinda surprised this thread didn't get resurrected in light of the census and gerrymandering cases.

Elections have consequences.

I'm almost positive it was something Dreger or Friedman said, not Botterill.

The charts account for these things. I don't mind if people want to quibble with specific measures used to do so, or the appropriateness of the regression model used, but the analysts are making a good faith effort to account for team context. These aren't vacuum stats like scoring or corsi.

You get an equivalent round pick if you offer a max ELC and the player elects UFA. That's it. I don't think it's overly complicated at all. And to be clear, I'd prefer no changes at all. I was merely presenting an alternative option to Carp wanting to force a player to sign.

Okay, so maybe I should have left the NFL out of it. My idea is if you draft an NCAA player in the 4th round and they end up not signing with you, you get a 4th round pick in the next draft. Move the player decision deadline up so that it occurs before the draft so there's some immediate compensation. I know it's not perfect because of the timeline on draft pick development, but I think I prefer it to forcing a player to sign.

I would also like to see something for the team, but I don't think forcing the player to sign is the right solution. After all, the player going UFA and walking is a known risk that teams (should) be pricing in. I'm in favor of an NFL style compensatory pick system.

The regression models take team context into account. If you want to argue the measures they use to do that, or contend the particular regressions employed aren't statistically appropriate, have at it. But those factors are not being ignored.

I agree, I just don't think everyone sees it that way.

The grain of salt would be Gardiner's back injury.

Well, I think he's just as bad at Risto while in his own end. He's just so much better at transitioning the puck that he doesn't get trapped there for entire shifts at a time.

Gardiner is absolutely a better skater, in both speed and form.

By "less physically gifted" he must mean "smaller."

I have similar concerns with McCabe's durability. Consecutive seasons under 60 games played, and his style of play may lend itself to wear and tear.

Wow am I dumb.

I like Gardiner a lot, but that back injury scares me with any kind of term. On the flip side, if he comes here, we may as well display a fluorescent "for sale" sign on Risto, Bogo, and Nelson.

Well that's about as exciting as death.

Johansson really isn't a center, though. He can play it in a "break glass in case of emergency" sense, but that's about it.