frissonic
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I saw that Neil RS interview, and honestly the first thing that came to my mind was that hell had frozen over!! Rolling Stone portraying anything Rush related in a positive way is unheard of. I guess Neil also did an extensive interview on Sirius XM Deep Tracks last night where they played the whole album and Neil gave extensive commentary between songs. I missed it, but I'm hoping it gets re-played or it shows up online somewhere.
yah, i love that RS put forth the effort to review usher's new CD, but not rush's. between them and billboard, i think they have the market cornered on crap.
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True, not so much their age at the time, but the tragedies of Neil Peart losing his teenage daughter in a car accident and then his wife to cancer within a year in the late nineties. I certainly thought they were likely done as a band. Thinking about those personal tragedies in Neil's life and some stuff I've had to deal with makes 'The Garden' a real gut wrencher for me. What an epic and beautiful song, and perhaps Neil's finest hour as a lyricist.
okay, that's a good point. even with those tragedies though, i don't remember ever thinking that they might not ever write again; i remember thinking that i hoped that he would heal and find some kind of peace--whether that's through new music, new adventure, new love ... whatever--just find that peace. and i guess he did. things like that tend to make me respect the person and put the band on a back burner. if they had never written another CD, i would have been grateful for TFE back through their first album.
i guess my point is that it never dawned on me that they might *not* write more music. it didn't dawn on me that they might. come to think of it, not much dawns on me. hmm.
i will say this: if they hadn't made this last CD, and "snakes and arrows" was their swan song, i would have been relatively disappointed. but with this cd ... if this is to be their last, they go out on a heretofore unprecedented high note.
to come back full circle to your original question, i'll pose a new question: where do you see the band in 10 years. cuz here's what neil said in a rolling stone interview:
Do you still see yourself working like this in 10 years?
I don't think it'll be possible, honestly. What I do is so athletic that I'm glad I've been able to hold onto my peak this long. And like I said before, I dedicate myself all the time to that kind of physical stamina and fitness levels and not to let it go. It reminds me of something a good friend of mine, Doane Perry, said – the drummer for Jethro Tull, another very long-lived, if ever-changing, unit. He was saying that even when Tull goes off the road he can't stand to stop. He's afraid if he stops he won't be able to do it again. And I kind of get that. I'm afraid to let go of the fitness and the peak and the devotion to the instrument in one way or another.
in reading this, i take it to mean that the desire will always be there; the real question will be capability. at this point, age is definitely a factor! it's highly unlikely that he'll be able to drum like this for many more years. if they have another record to make, it'd probably need to be soon ... and with their schedule being what it is for the next couple of years, it's probably not going to happen.
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True, but 10 or 15 years ago did you think the boys would still be going in 2012, let alone producing epic works like Clockwork Angels?
10-15 years ago, they were 45-50 years old. if the stones, in their 70s, can keep going (albeit sadly and pathetically), then yah--i figured they'd be around a while longer.
"clockwork angels" is their masterpiece.
I heard the Pete Towshend comment, but that's taking it a little out of context. Rush received an award last month in Ottawa and Towshend was also there. When Geddy and Alex were chatting with him they mentioned that they had a new album coming out soon, and Towshend said something to the effect of questioning the wisdom of making an album these days and he said that that they are a "waste of time". He's right in the sense that there is little to no money to be made anymore in making rock albums.
ha ha ha! i totally missed this! sorry man.
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Did you hear Pete Townshend call Clockwork Angels a "waste of time"? Just heard something about that on the radio...
well, take the whole thing in context: he said making an album any more is a waste of time. or something along those lines. he wasn't specifically referencing "clockwork angels." but yah, that kind of floored me.
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Not a complaint so much as it is a depressing thought:
Someday, Alex, Geddy, and Neil will stop making music. THAT is sad ...
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easily one of the most productive days in recent memory. cleaned off the driveway of all weeds, edged the sidewalk and driveway, swept out the car port, organized the car port shed a little bit, did a load of dishes, weeded the backyard, hung out with my mom for a few hours, and got a nice hour-long nap while my mom and wife took the girls to the school playground to play. made dinner for the girls since wife is out at bunco, and now i'm going to chill with some netflix.
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having off every other friday is pretty awesome. especially when it gives me a chance to catch up on all the yardwork i need to get done.
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It's probably taken too long and cost too much money but it IS awesome.
two words come to mind. the second is "yes!" the first rhymes with 'truck."
my wife and i have already decided that we're going to NYC when these are done. we missed out on the twin towers. that won't happen again.
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Ok, another full album listen in (and multiple repeats of some favorite tracks) and it's nudging closer to, if not surpassing some of those classics. At the very least it's the best work from them in 25-30 years. What an amazing piece of work, three guys approaching 60 years of age should not being making masterpiece rock albums like this. I got tired of the Rush in the RnR HOF debate a decade ago, but if they do ever get the nod I hope they just politely say "thanks, but no thanks".
i'm about 10 listens in. hey, i have nothing to do at work right now, and we're in that "ebb" phase where nothing's coming in, so i sit here and listen. at first i was focusing on just the music. there's no other way to put it: it's jaw-dropping. there's a sonic dynamic range to this album that they haven't had since "hold your fire." the string arrangements on "the garden" are haunting, but flip a 180 and the guitars on "seven cities of gold" and "carnies" is gut-punching. the dire, frantic and phrenetic intro to "clockwork angels" conjures up memories of pink floyd's "one of these days," yet we're whisked away on some melodic interlude for about half a minute until guitars rip your ears apart in riffs that reminisce of "grand finale" from 2112.
no, this thing is their masterpiece, in my opinion. their classics will always be their classics and their building blocks that got them to this precise stage, where they *can* write this kind of music.
i cannot quit this cd.
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Everything Quentin Tarantino does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUdM9vrCbow
Jamie Foxx, Leo Dicaprio, Franco Nero, Christoph Walz, Sam Jackson, Don Johnson, Tom Wopat and RZA? What a cast!
Sooooo excited for this reboot of a classic spaghetti western character.
Also, the irony of Tom Wopat in a movie that deals with issues of slavery and the rights of blacks in the US South could not be any funnier.
is that a dukes of hazard joke?
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Vegas disagrees with you :w00t:
that would be the entire state of nevada. ;)
well, okay ... to clarify, any brazen hussie street walker or brothel worker in the state of nevada. lest any state employees become ira ...oh, wait. erm ... unless any sports figures become .... oh, sh**. i mean ... any clerical workers .... or maybe hot school teachers .......
hmmm.
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I have to drop a very significant amount of money next week. The item and reason are material for the friday thread (which I won't be sharing), but the new monthly bill is going to be frustrated for a while.
to parrot others, congratulations! as others have also said, team mentality first. best advice i ever received regarding marriage: "frequent surrender." goes both ways, sure, but if the both of you do that, i guarantee you'll have a great life together. congrats again man! marriage is awesome.
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Wow! That picture where they make almost perfect concentric circles is mindblowing. Were you lucky enough just be at the right spot or did you travel to see it (I kinda remember you saying something about driving to see it). Either way, it's amazing. The tree making abunch of pinhole cameras on the fence was really cool, too. Thanks. :thumbsup:
Dude. That's cool.
yah, the path went through a little town called kanab, which is about a 5-6 hour drive from us. it's right on the UT/AZ border. some friends of ours live down that way, and they invited us down, then called some friends of theirs in fredonia (in AZ, just over the border as well but on the other side), who live at ground zero for nowhere. it was perfect. hot as hell, but perfect.
glad you guys enjoyed them.
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Pics?
sorry ... didn't see this until just now. here ya go.
Peanut butter M&Ms also have a layer of chocolate. Reese's Pieces do not.
(this is in reply to Chris in UT's post from 1 May. Don't know why quoting isn't working from my phone. )
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a good point. and they're m&ms, so they melt in your mouth--not in your hand.
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I've listened to the whole album twice and yes it's damn good, but way too early to say it beats Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves, 2112 or Hemispheres in my book. I need to digest it a little more. The Garden is awesome.
okay, let me caveat that by saying "in my opinion ..." so far, i've listened to it 4 times the whole way through (great time filler while waiting for the clouds to break so i can get pics of the venus transit). it got better with each listen. the cds you mentioned are great. they're classics. this new cd is simply epic. the scale of *everything* on this is just huge. the garden is amazing. clockwork angels is absolutetly mind-bending. even carnies, which when i read the title caused me a little panic, is a) not at all what i expected, b) quickly becoming one of my favorites on the new cd.
my wife was listening to it with me. when 'clockwork angels' playing, even she noted, "holy crap--they don't mess around with their time signature and key changes, do they?" then that riff that COMPLETELY reminds me of "The Grand Finale" from 2112 (completely appropriate, if you look at the cover of CA), and even she said, "hey ... that sounds like something else they've done. is that from another CD?"
let's just say that it was a *very* good afternoon. :)
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The day has arrived, the leak is here. I have only had a chance to listen to a few tracks on youtube while working so far, but I'm loving The Wreckers, Seven Cities of Gold and The Anarchist.
looks like a lot of the clockwork angels vids are getting pulled. there was one that was the whole CD. it's gone. lots of individual tracks are gone.
no matter. TPB has it, and ... yah. this cd is going to dwarf anything they've ever done. period.
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The day has arrived, the leak is here. I have only had a chance to listen to a few tracks on youtube while working so far, but I'm loving The Wreckers, Seven Cities of Gold and The Anarchist.
i was JUST about to go home and see if i could find a leak!!! HA!
this venus transit just got a whole sh**-ton better. thanks man!
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#firstworldproblems
so, i'm chatting with my wife last night as she's driving home from a meeting. come upstairs, put the phone on speaker, drop it on the bed, and start cleaning, all the while rambling on about getting the girls in bed, blah blah blah ... next thing i know, she's saying, "honey? honey? are you there?"
"well of course i'm here. can you not hear me?"
"......honey?"
"what?!"
"..........honey? are you there?"
pick up the phone, turn off speaker, and start talking again. few more tests and phone calls to other people later, and i find out that my phone doesn't work if i'm in speaker phone mode. i can hear the caller, but the caller can't hear me.
take it to the store today, and they opened it up. no lint ball, no fuzz, no blockage ... nothin'. try installing an OS update. nothin'. finally, the guy says, "well, we can get you a new phone. have you backed up your phone lately?"
last backup was the 11th. no texts, emails, data ... nothing from the 12th through today.
</whining>
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The Boy is not going to be home this evening so the wife and I have a date night tonight. Dinner, drinks, listen to some live music.
Gosh, I hope I get lucky tonight.
We all do, Weave. We all do. :)
Solar filter is on the truck for delivery. Van is packed and getting ready to point to southern Utah for a weekend of astronomically unfettered geekiness. Pics to come ...
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And for my official complaint: effing electronics. I don't know if there's a solar flare or something crazy going on, but Monday morning my home internet was fine, and Monday evening stuff just stopped working. The modem is fine because I can get internet if I connect directly via ethernet cable, and all my devices can connect to my wireless router, but can't get to the internet via the router. I wasted my entire evening last night screwing around with it, downloaded a firmware update, etc, and it's still boogered up. At one point I managed to get my laptop connected to the internet via the wireless router, but the iPad and smartphone still wouldn't work. Then something went really screwy and my router's IP address started directing me to a page for the modem. I finally gave up around 1am but it's seriously annoying. On top of that, the battery for my laptop suddenly started doing this whole "plugged in, not charging" thing and none of the fixes I've tried have solved it, and the updated OS for my smartphone is causing intermittent inability to establish a data connection. Ugh.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7408060n
definitely some HUGE spots. my daughter and i were test driving our solar glasses for the eclipse coming up, and we both so a spot, so i ran in to grab my camera. sure enough, massive black dot on the top part. incredible that sun spot can be so big that you can see it from here ... with the right solar filter, of course.
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I like snakes and arrows better than vapor trails....
Though I listen to older stuff more often than either of those.
Why do you have a difficult time?
that is a very good question, and it's one for which i have no answer. i have never had a problem with any rush album. and i really don't have issues with S&A ... there are just some tracks that i skip, and that made me incredibly nervous for this new cd for all the reasons that the reviewer in claude_verret's post mentioned--getting old, losing their touch, "falling in line ..." et al.
VT >>> Snakes & Arrows. S&A was a bit of a letdown, I'm hoping from much bigger things based on the three songs we've heard thus far from Clockwork Angels. Here is a track by track review of the new album, this review seems to confirm that Caravan and BU2B were re-recorded as BU2B has an acoustic intro on the new album.
http://www.musicrada...ack-542931/1#!1
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just a hunch, and i'm tempted to verify this as soon as i get home, but my guess is that, somewhere in torrent-ville, there's a copy of this cd floating around. if there is, i'm going to cave, i'm going to download it, i'm going to upload it to itunes match it on my phone, and then i'm going to take the entire day off of work and drive around--up canyons, down the highway, possibly to the top of a couple of mountain peaks, barring still lingering snow towards the top (a distinct possibility).
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i do love the song, but also sorta agree with SDS. i think they'd have been better off with the YYZ treatment on this one.
i'm going to reserve judgment on the lyrics (which, for the record, i like) until i hear the rest of the album. after hearing carvan, bu2b and the new song, i can't imagine anything on this new offering is going to be less than way above par.
while we're on the subject of rush, discuss snakes and arrows. 5 years later, and i still have a really difficult time listening to about half of those songs, whereas vapor trails, with me, was an instant hit. thoughts? opinions?
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eh. The music was fine, but the flow of the lyrics was horrific. It was like the original song was in another language and they sang the rough translation.
if i'm not mistaken, geddy is quoted as saying that this was originally going to be the instrumental for the CD, but then neil came up with the lyrics, and it took off from there. they did something similar with "peaceable kingdom" from vapor trails.
personally, i love the lyrics. hey man, i would never trade tomorrow for today. yeah ...
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just my $.02, but i've never had my jaw come unhinged like it did when i first heard the intro to "clockwork angels". i agree with CV's list, and i can see where weave is coming from with his favorite track, but for me, it's the title track.
and definitely give it a few more spins. listening to it even a few times doesn't allow you the time to digest the whole thing. this cd is meaty, linear, and incredibly deep. my first few times through, i listened to it for just the music. after i was comfortable with that, i perused the lyrics, and that's when the whole cd really began to click for me.
never really heard any of slash's solo stuff. not out of purpose ... just haven't sought it out. might have to give it a spin.