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This place is such a shitshow these days. Truly the drought has ruined it because there's nothing to talk about. We're gonna have ***** gt with ***** coaching and finish around 83-85pts. Adams will make excuses, Ruff will retire, Appert will be coach (see now I'm making assumptions), and we'll lose again next year. Rinse and repeat. Because the only thing the gm was more afraid of than arbitration was an offer sheet. This isn't hard.

You know what children. You're right, Adams had great processes in place. He's so smart. My bad. See, that's what moving the goalposts looks like. All this bs over a side comment about how funny it all was. Oh cool, didn't know players could just negotiate contracts with themselves. Is that part of the new cba?

When was byrams arbitration hearing? Please tell me. So he literally wasn't taken to arbitration. Thank you.

Funny you think electing arbitration is taking a player to arbitration even though they never went and the player signed before it happened. Reading comprehension, get some.

Bowen Byram did not go to arbitration. Not my fault you don't understand what words mean Promo.

Oh cool, so what did the Arbitration award Byram? When was his arbitration hearing held? Would love to read up on it. You're so full of ***** it hurts.

Go look up what adams said about jbd "I think from our perspective, where his projected salary was going to come out and where we had him slotted in the 8th spot.. just felt like that didn’t make sense with also having Ryan Johnson (and others).. that’s why we made the decision we made.” Kevyn Adams He was literally afraid of being on the hook for an arbitration award higher than he felt while openly admitting he views Bryson higher. Jfc kids, it's bad process and I'm being debated about how bad it is. Wtf are we doing here.

He literally did not. No one went to arbitration.

The gm was afraid of arbitration. We know because of his words and actions. That's hilarious because it's a formality in 19 out of 20 cases.

Now this is goalposts moving. You think the issue is Timmins? No, it's that they let a guy go because "what if he files for arbitration!?" Which was the gms rationale only to sign a guy who immediately filed for arbitration. It's hilarious and bad decision making because as you point out, they all sign anyways.

The gm said they didn't want to do arbitration with JBD and then signed a bad player and allowed another player to file for arbitration b4 signing him. It's not moving the goalposts, it's recognizing incompetent decision making.

Signing Timmins while releasing JBD but keeping Bryson is still incompetent.

Ok, guess the roster is set

We literally have not experienced the change from Cozens to Norris. The latter only played 3 games.

His... checks notes... 62 game nhl career? Well, that's certainly true. Idk what Doan will be but I don't think he's a toss in. Is he a 25pt bottom 6 guy with good defense or a 50pt top 6 guy with good defense? Guess we'll see but I'd bet this year will be up and down for him.

That's debatable. Highly debatable based on what we know.

The Sabres are the least experienced team in the league. The defense has 1 guy who has over 300 games played.

I stand by my statement. This group is lacking and listing seasons played and then talking about the adversity they've faced as one of the least experienced groups in the league is hiding behind those seasons played. Not a single member of the group is over 25, calling them "men" as though they've reached that late 20s level is questionable.

Upl, sunk cost fallacy

By games this defense is not experienced. Stop trying to hide that behind seasons played. This might be the least experienced defense group in the league.

Coaching and Goaltending

Everything in the quote box is from the article. I don't agree with the "consensual part" as clearly the girl involved felt some line was crossed. I am fine with approaching Hart but Adams will not. He and Ruff believe in UPL and are stupid and stubborn. There's almost no evidence that UPL is consistent enough to be a reliable starter without a team selling all out for defense. Maybe this year he proves us wrong but if I had a team in 14yr playoff drought and was responsible for 5 of those years, I would be a bit more cut throat than Adams is or will ever be.

I think this quote from the Athletic article on this is exactly why I have an issue with just "moving on" and bringing in the players involved. It perfectly encapsulates how this was covered and the presiding feeling now that it is "over". https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6429400/2025/07/24/hockey-canada-trial-players-not-guilty/

There's the law side of things and the "this wasn't right" side of things. I heard enough of the testimony and the evidence to think even if legally these players cannot or even should not be punished, what happened was in that "this isn't right" realm. It's fairly clear from the factual sequence of events that things, at least in terms of my morality, were taken to far and have that "ick" factor. At the very least McLeod would be someone I would not want on my team due to his grievous lack of judgement.

The question is was Cozens really a drag on the defense or was that just because the team overall was bad?