dudacek

I don't think anyone disagrees with your argument that we need another good defenceman and better goaltending and Adams needs to do something about it. I think most of us think those things are obvious. It's the constant repetition and conclusion that it means Adams has no plan and is doing a terrible job.

I thought so too.

I don't think the fanbase is tough enough for a growth season. Every 3-game winning streak you see hope starting to creep in to people's posts. Every loss like last night and it's "I knew it, they were just teasing me, they're never going to change!" We're like a partner in an abusive relationship. His inability to find a goalie yet aside, I am so glad Kevyn Adams has his hands on the wheel. Don't know if his plan will get us there, but listening to the noise definitely won't.

Holy *****! Blake with some cold ass dealing there. (It’s apparently a 1st and Quick for Korpisalo and Gavrikov) Quick must be furious. Also, does this affect their ability/desire to get Chychrun? The still have the pieces even without their first, but if the Coyotes aren’t taking salary back, how do they fit Chychrun under the cap?

No, I get your point. I disagree with your perception of the prospect pool. To my eyes, the only players who match your perception are Rosen and Kisakov. Just because Savoie, Kulich Östlund, Krebs, Peterka and Cozens are skilled enough to play in the top six does not mean they are too soft, too defensively irresponsible, or too offensively focused to play in the bottom six. They are all responsible brave, all-round players And I disagree that Bloom is the only prospect we have capable of grinding: Poltapov is far more abrasive and Nadeau stronger on his skates and better in traffic. To answer your question of 'why Bloom?' I think the answer is simple: he's elite at nothing and the least likely of any of them to become an NHL player.

First mention of UPL by an “insider?” And from the wording, he’s being dangled in order to get what we’re looking for. That’s an attention grabber.

Chychrun to me makes the most sense to the Kings; they have the need and the pieces.

So exactly what i think, except you think he's not still trying, he's done?

Personally, I think he has a Tyler Ennis ceiling and a bust floor. Less than 2 years ago the Sabres thought he was no worse than the 13th-best player in the draft, so I’d say 2nd line or better has to be their projection.

Does anybody else see Stillman as basically an insurance policy? As in, if we aren’t getting our targeted Dman, we’ve at least added some depth and attitude at a cheap price?

I’ve said it before Rosen, this year’s 1st, Philly’s 2nd and Portillo. Arizona doesn’t want salary

And has been patiently waiting more than a year for a promised trade. Something is going to break. Curious as to the Ekholm vs Chychrun debate Edmonton must have had. That package meets the reported Chychrun price in value, but Edmonton had to move salary, and apparently Arizona wouldn’t take it. Wonder what futures Barrie could have been flipped for.

I dont agree. Matt Savoie will be better, but he could easily play Tyson JOST’s role. Jiri Kulich has a game that can slot anywhere in the lineup. They’re dogs. Östlund is diligent and smart as they come. Prokhor Poltapov is Vaclav Varada. Tyson Kozak is a longshot, but if he makes it it will be as a textbook 4C. Olivier Nadeau is a beast in traffic. And that is ignoring the fact that guys like Krebs, Quinn and Cozens are competitive diligent guys who will be available to PK and matchup as they mature. Pretty much everything Bloom offers is still there.

Just asked this in the other trade thread. There are a billion defencemen still available. The beauty of this is that he can afford to wait. As much as a few want to sell the farm to make the playoffs, they can do that without selling the farm, and making the playoffs is absolutely as far as they are going to go. 3 of the Rangers, Bruins, Lightning and Leafs are going to live to regret what they’re doing.

If Edmonton opened up salary for Ekholm, and Parayko and 8 billion other D-men also on the market, is the window closing for the Coyotes to get their ask on Chychrun? And are the Sabres actually going to be able to scoop up the leftovers from that market late?

Read some charts that said Schenn and Stillman are roughly the same player. Saw somewhere else that the main difference between them is Stillman played with Myers while Schenn got to play with Hughes? Only semi-related, am I the only one wondering if the Leafs are making too many changes to a team that’s been pretty damn good, and much improved defensively this year?

Just read his recent hot streak has seen him lining up in the middle.

Agents involved in this pointing things in desired directions. (Just like I suspect they are with Portillo)

it was a 3rd. And thanks for the thread @LGR4GM. Definitely seems like deadline day has arrived.

There's one for the "Portillo has no value" folks. Thrun is in the same position and a similar-level prospect. If you could get a player as good as Sandin with the 30th pick in the draft, you did well. Pretty big difference between Boston's pick and even, say, the Islanders.

Contract situation and player dictating where he would go. It’s Taylor Hall all over again. I expect the apology to Kevyn Adams thread to be posted within minutes.

So Greg Wyshynski is reporting that the Bruins nearly had a deal done for Chychrun, but couldn’t close it due to salary retention. The Bruins have no 1st this year and no 2nd rounders for 3 years. Their best prospect might be as good as Rosen. Their next best are at best a full tier below that, and there aren’t many of them. Im going to conclude that either Wyshynski is wrong, or the price for Chychrun is a helluvalot less than this nonsense about Savoie, Mule and a 1st. So much ***** floating around out there this time of year. (Yes, I am aware the Bruins gave up a 1st and 2nd for Orlov that they could have used, but my point remains. They had no single asset as high as any of the 3 parts in the alleged Sabres ask)

Which is the way it should be based on performance.

Wow, listening to Canuck radio and analyst Thomas Drance is saying don't be surprised if Riley Stillman turns into an asset for the Sabres, despite his struggles in Vancouver. Basically he says Stillman was put in the worst possible position with the Canucks where the system and his partner (Tyler Myers) exacerbated his flaws. Drance says that won't be the case in Buffalo, which is loaded (his words) with defencemen who can move the puck. Drance thinks he's a viable 6/7 who can grind out neutral minutes on the bottom pair. Different take from most of the other Canuck-watchers. Also said Stillman was targeted by the Canucks when they acquired him along with cap space for Jason Dickinson and a 2nd. They thought he was going to be a regular, not filler, but he proved a bad fit.

I think that seems to have been more true in the summer than it is now. John Gibson and Thatcher Demko are depreciated but talented options worth looking at. Cam Talbot has certainly outplayed Comrie. And Juuse Saros would flat out transform our team.